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Games LYN Official Pokemon Thread V3, 6th Gen キタ‼ (*'▽')
Games LYN Official Pokemon Thread V3, 6th Gen キタ‼ (*'▽')
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Oct 22 2012, 02:17 PM
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Oct 22 2012, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Oct 22 2012, 02:17 PM) what hehe hehe? just tell me lor EDIT: finally managed to caught above average IV'ed Kyurem with the right nature that I want.. though it's not perfect~ especially its Speed anyway I'll be train it's EV just like I want to train my Zekrom~ » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I just don't wanna fight him anymore.. such a pain.. used almost 20 Dusk Ball, 10 Timer Ball and a few Ultra Ball just to catch this guy.. and it was after I paralyzed and false swipe him.. EDIT: got PokeRus from the Magnemite that I trade~ yay~ This post has been edited by akmal89: Oct 23 2012, 12:25 AM |
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Oct 23 2012, 02:57 AM
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"But he has a silly-looking Qwilfish hairstyle" makes me laughed
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Oct 23 2012, 07:12 AM
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Anyone got a DW Scyther (F) with at least 31's on Atk/Speed/HP for trade? I can catch you an European Ditto with close to perfect IVs if you want (Good if you're trying to RNG for shinies).
Also after two days of messing with the RNG, I've managed to find the right times for my timid Latios This post has been edited by ZeratoS: Oct 23 2012, 07:13 AM |
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Oct 23 2012, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Oct 23 2012, 07:12 AM) Anyone got a DW Scyther (F) with at least 31's on Atk/Speed/HP for trade? I can catch you an European Ditto with close to perfect IVs if you want (Good if you're trying to RNG for shinies). Care to explain a little bit how to RNG? I tried to read it on the internet but my brain never want to understand how the process works~ Also after two days of messing with the RNG, I've managed to find the right times for my timid Latios |
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Oct 23 2012, 04:30 PM
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u all seem to be at end game waaaaaa... so fast.
i still finding 6th member of my team lol ... |
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Oct 23 2012, 04:41 PM
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Oct 23 2012, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(akmal89 @ Oct 23 2012, 04:41 PM) breed trade train EV lol .. that was what i was planning but just finished the 8th badge mwahaha..if EV train this will be my 1st try lol .. never knew how to do it actually. so wanna try cuz see other ppl same lvl but so strong. jealous |
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Oct 23 2012, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(akmal89 @ Oct 23 2012, 01:09 PM) Care to explain a little bit how to RNG? I tried to read it on the internet but my brain never want to understand how the process works~ I know the feeling. It took me 1 whole day to calibrate my DS and find the timer0.The concept is very simple. All computing randomization follows pseudo-random distributions. What this means is that some variable is used to generate the initial seed for your future random rolls. So in this case, Pokemon B/W2 uses a few things to generate your timer0 (which is the initial seed) - your 3DS/DS's MAC address, the DS type, the language used and the game version. Lets say your timer0 is a. If you start your game at exactly a certain date and time, the first encounter on a certain frame will guarantee that a pokemon has x/y/z IVs. This is calculated by your timer0 (the initial seed used to generate all the other random stuff). Its quite complicated, but in essence, RNG allows you to encounter pokemon with any combination of IVs you want by using that initial seed because all things in computing are not truly random and thus are predictable to some degree (via the algorithm used). If its super complex, follow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYSHAga0Q3Q You have to be very patient though because the timer0 for Black/White 2 randomizes between 3 values, so lets say I start my black 2 at exactly 5:01pm on the 8th of Febuary 2012 (your DS clock), and fight latios immediately, I will always get one of three IV combinations. This is guaranteed so long as its down to the exact second. QUOTE(MaxSteR88 @ Oct 23 2012, 04:55 PM) breed trade train EV lol .. that was what i was planning but just finished the 8th badge mwahaha.. EV training is easy. 4 EVs = +1 to the pokemon's stats on the summary screen. You can have a max of 510 EVs total and 254 in a single EV (but obviously you want it divisible by 4)if EV train this will be my 1st try lol .. never knew how to do it actually. so wanna try cuz see other ppl same lvl but so strong. jealous If you kill a Pidgey, you get +1 to your Speed EV so lets say you want to increase your speed by 10 points; you would need to kill 40 pidgeys or whatever other combination of pokemon which give the EV you need. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lis...ort_value_yield This post has been edited by ZeratoS: Oct 23 2012, 07:39 PM |
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Oct 23 2012, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Oct 23 2012, 07:36 PM) I know the feeling. It took me 1 whole day to calibrate my DS and find the timer0. oo okay for example i know killing Lilipup or Patrat raises attack EV by 1 correct.The concept is very simple. All computing randomization follows pseudo-random distributions. What this means is that some variable is used to generate the initial seed for your future random rolls. So in this case, Pokemon B/W2 uses a few things to generate your timer0 (which is the initial seed) - your 3DS/DS's MAC address, the DS type, the language used and the game version. Lets say your timer0 is a. If you start your game at exactly a certain date and time, the first encounter on a certain frame will guarantee that a pokemon has x/y/z IVs. This is calculated by your timer0 (the initial seed used to generate all the other random stuff). Its quite complicated, but in essence, RNG allows you to encounter pokemon with any combination of IVs you want by using that initial seed because all things in computing are not truly random and thus are predictable to some degree (via the algorithm used). If its super complex, follow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYSHAga0Q3Q You have to be very patient though because the timer0 for Black/White 2 randomizes between 3 values, so lets say I start my black 2 at exactly 5:01pm on the 8th of Febuary 2012 (your DS clock), and fight latios immediately, I will always get one of three IV combinations. This is guaranteed so long as its down to the exact second. EV training is easy. 4 EVs = +1 to the pokemon's stats on the summary screen. You can have a max of 510 EVs total and 254 in a single EV (but obviously you want it divisible by 4) If you kill a Pidgey, you get +1 to your Speed EV so lets say you want to increase your speed by 10 points; you would need to kill 40 pidgeys or whatever other combination of pokemon which give the EV you need. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lis...ort_value_yield but at what level should i concerntrate doing this? do they get the same amount of EV if i switch them out of battle? sorry for noobish questions. just recently found out about these stuff. |
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Oct 23 2012, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(MaxSteR88 @ Oct 23 2012, 07:44 PM) oo okay for example i know killing Lilipup or Patrat raises attack EV by 1 correct. If I'm not mistaken, as long as they get EXP they get the EV, so even if you EXP share they will get the EV. Have to be careful or else you might accidentally get the wrong EVs or miscount..but at what level should i concerntrate doing this? do they get the same amount of EV if i switch them out of battle? sorry for noobish questions. just recently found out about these stuff. Focus on beating them game before you start to think about working on your competitive team. You also want to figure out the team you're running, the metagame tier you're going to play in (http://www.smogon.com/bw/metagames/) and so forth. From there, you should learn how to RNG (if you're using a real 3DS and real cart and not jacksparrowed one IVs are very important, arguably more important than EVs (because EVs can be adjusted using berries IVs also affect the Hidden Power type you get, so for sweepers like Latios, you want HP:Fire and would need a combination of 31/6/31/30/30/31 IV to get HP:Fire..so yeah haha. Don't worry about it Anyway to stress it, do NOT catch any one-of-a-kind Pokemon until you can RNG for perfect stats or the combination you need to make it competitive. I screwed up my Latios when I forgot about the Hidden Power type and now I need to make adjustments to my team to account for Scizor counters. tl;dr: Perfecting Pokemon is just for competitive use lah. If you're a casual player, don't waste time unless you're super masochistic and want to spam chatot cries all day long.. This post has been edited by ZeratoS: Oct 23 2012, 07:59 PM |
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Oct 23 2012, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Oct 23 2012, 07:54 PM) If I'm not mistaken, as long as they get EXP they get the EV, so even if you EXP share they will get the EV. Have to be careful or else you might accidentally get the wrong EVs or miscount.. oo thnkx for the tip. yeah i was thinking of the EV things after finishing the game.Focus on beating them game before you start to think about working on your competitive team. You also want to figure out the team you're running, the metagame tier you're going to play in (http://www.smogon.com/bw/metagames/) and so forth. From there, you should learn how to RNG (if you're using a real 3DS and real cart and not jacksparrowed one IVs are very important, arguably more important than EVs (because EVs can be adjusted using berries IVs also affect the Hidden Power type you get, so for sweepers like Latios, you want HP:Fire and would need a combination of 31/6/31/30/30/31 IV to get HP:Fire..so yeah haha. Don't worry about it This is just a heads up preparation for IV im still abit confused |
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Oct 23 2012, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Oct 23 2012, 07:36 PM) I know the feeling. It took me 1 whole day to calibrate my DS and find the timer0. The concept is very simple. All computing randomization follows pseudo-random distributions. What this means is that some variable is used to generate the initial seed for your future random rolls. So in this case, Pokemon B/W2 uses a few things to generate your timer0 (which is the initial seed) - your 3DS/DS's MAC address, the DS type, the language used and the game version. Lets say your timer0 is a. If you start your game at exactly a certain date and time, the first encounter on a certain frame will guarantee that a pokemon has x/y/z IVs. This is calculated by your timer0 (the initial seed used to generate all the other random stuff). Its quite complicated, but in essence, RNG allows you to encounter pokemon with any combination of IVs you want by using that initial seed because all things in computing are not truly random and thus are predictable to some degree (via the algorithm used). If its super complex, follow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYSHAga0Q3Q You have to be very patient though because the timer0 for Black/White 2 randomizes between 3 values, so lets say I start my black 2 at exactly 5:01pm on the 8th of Febuary 2012 (your DS clock), and fight latios immediately, I will always get one of three IV combinations. This is guaranteed so long as its down to the exact second. EV training is easy. 4 EVs = +1 to the pokemon's stats on the summary screen. You can have a max of 510 EVs total and 254 in a single EV (but obviously you want it divisible by 4) If you kill a Pidgey, you get +1 to your Speed EV so lets say you want to increase your speed by 10 points; you would need to kill 40 pidgeys or whatever other combination of pokemon which give the EV you need. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lis...ort_value_yield QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Oct 23 2012, 07:54 PM) If I'm not mistaken, as long as they get EXP they get the EV, so even if you EXP share they will get the EV. Have to be careful or else you might accidentally get the wrong EVs or miscount.. WOW thanks a lot for your time and explanation~ I'm gonna study it for a while and watch the youtube when I have time~Focus on beating them game before you start to think about working on your competitive team. You also want to figure out the team you're running, the metagame tier you're going to play in (http://www.smogon.com/bw/metagames/) and so forth. From there, you should learn how to RNG (if you're using a real 3DS and real cart and not jacksparrowed one IVs are very important, arguably more important than EVs (because EVs can be adjusted using berries IVs also affect the Hidden Power type you get, so for sweepers like Latios, you want HP:Fire and would need a combination of 31/6/31/30/30/31 IV to get HP:Fire..so yeah haha. Don't worry about it Anyway to stress it, do NOT catch any one-of-a-kind Pokemon until you can RNG for perfect stats or the combination you need to make it competitive. I screwed up my Latios when I forgot about the Hidden Power type and now I need to make adjustments to my team to account for Scizor counters. This is my feeling right now~ |
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Oct 23 2012, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(MaxSteR88 @ Oct 23 2012, 07:58 PM) oo thnkx for the tip. yeah i was thinking of the EV things after finishing the game. There's nothing to be confused about. Pokemon are like humans. Each person is born different. Maybe your nose will be longer or eyes bigger or you'll be taller. That's genetics.This is just a heads up preparation for IV im still abit confused IVs are the "genes" of pokemon. They can be 0~31 for all 6 stats and they affect the stats of the Pokemon. ![]() ![]() QUOTE(akmal89 @ Oct 23 2012, 08:02 PM) WOW thanks a lot for your time and explanation~ I'm gonna study it for a while and watch the youtube when I have time~ Welcome. If you have any inquires, just ask.This is my feeling right now~ This post has been edited by ZeratoS: Oct 23 2012, 08:12 PM |
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Oct 23 2012, 09:40 PM
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whoa... suddenly this thread turns into 'real' discussion
anyway, in building your team, check whether your team is for lvl 50 or lvl 100 battle.... since the effective IV/EV will halved on lvl 50... |
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Oct 23 2012, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Oct 23 2012, 09:40 PM) whoa... suddenly this thread turns into 'real' discussion 100's less of a hassle haha. My Latios with Soul Dew has 303 SpA without any EVs anyway, in building your team, check whether your team is for lvl 50 or lvl 100 battle.... since the effective IV/EV will halved on lvl 50... |
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Oct 23 2012, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Oct 23 2012, 09:40 PM) whoa... suddenly this thread turns into 'real' discussion gotta stop talking about this 'serious' things or else the noob won't be able to fit in this forum~ anyway, in building your team, check whether your team is for lvl 50 or lvl 100 battle.... since the effective IV/EV will halved on lvl 50... |
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Oct 23 2012, 10:16 PM
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By the way, anyone got any idea why I'm missing 1 SpA on my Latios' stat sheet? I'm 100% sure I killed 20 Litwicks (5 SpA) but my SpA went up from 202 to 206 only. The 12th EV did not give me any SpA to my Latios' sheet.
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