well like i mentioned, depends on the value of it. if no need dedicated can go all the way down to i3 (or even dual core) also np, cos in my experience nowadays any cpu good enough edy. just adjust on batt life, quality etc.

if no gaming at all, Asus Vivobook X202 is nice at RM15++. touchscreen, i3, win8, 11.6" @ 1366x768 which is very acceptable (actually already bought one for my gf.. if only i read the Asus thread...  ). hell i used AMDe450 before, bought Samsung for less then RM1k, ok for old gaming like Company of Heroes etc no complain.

if gaming, then the problem (and price) arises lol haha. dilemma. rm2k maybe the sweet spot, but then again im in the buying mood so...  maybe wait for pc fair later on dec

Your problem is a common one 
Brands seems to see FHD as an high end thingy, and that's why you will only see FHD with high end CPU, or business class, or ultrabook. Pick your poison 

Don't expect Thinkpad built quality in ideapad 
Thinkpad, if you talk about the T / W series, has internal roll cage, and will withstand lots of abuse. (I had drop a T410 4 ft onto the floor, bang on the keyboard of T420 that sent the whole laptop jumping (after a shitty tele-con) and no problemo . Spill resistant keyboard. Trackball (the red colour thing). Matte screen. Backward compatible ports.

For ideapad, you normally get better speakers (but you will be better off with dedicated desktop speakers), more game-oriented GPU and Glossy screen. And I am a lot more gentle with my Y580 

If your concern is built-in ventilation, look at Asus G series or Alienware. But most gamers use cooling pad or other ingenious solutions

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Added on November 16, 2012, 11:31 am
Inspiron 14SE is quite a good laptop for the price (~RM2k).
GPU is ok for light gaming. Speakers are better than run-of-the-mill variants. Keyboard are nice. Built quality is above average for consumer class laptop. And Dell warranty is good. Extend to 3 yr onsite if you can.

Negative - depend on your requirement, actually
If you are a heavy gamer, then the GPU is not the best. If you want FHD screen, not available. If you want light weight, you better off with ultra-book. If you are business class user (need backward compatible ports, docking), not available.

light gamer? cannot play blackshot/LOL or cd game buy froms store like NFS, devil  may cry or warcraft

yeah... funny thing is 5 years ago higher reso is so common. nowadays its all 1366 zzzzzzzzzz...... scroll scroll scroll

nexus2238 is more towards hardcore gaming rigs
The GT640M is capable of mid-level gaming, hell its even better than the GT555m in my M14x already
And I have no problems playing NFS Most Wanted at near max settings

Blame it on the lowest common denominator effect  As manufacturers race to push cost / price down, screen quality inadvertably is usually the first to go. It's easier to sell on CPU spec, GPU spec, RAM size, HDD size for the less initiated 

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Added on November 16, 2012, 11:21 pm
Sorry, sorry. Due to games I played when I was in my teens, I have always associated strategy / CRPG games as light gaming (call me weird  ), and FPS games as heavy 
So as far as a GPU could handle the most graphic intensive CRPG (I think Skyrim for 2011, Witcher 2 is more action RPG) reasonably, I will think it can handle light gaming 
Younger people will associate "light gaming" with facebook games, minecraft ... generation gap 

Hi guys,

Need your help for recommendation for new laptop. The criteria;

- Price: <RM3000
- OS: WIN8
-Harddisk: If possible SSD. I dont mind to get smal size coz afterall I will still use ex. HDD and thumbdrive.
-Brand: Other than Acer & Asus. Have bad experience with both brands. My asus went kaput after only 15 months.
-Processor: Dont need up to i7. i5 is more than enough.
-Usage: Minimal design need i.e. only for my websites, heavy multitasker & multitabber, play game like fifa.
-Size: 13" is sufficient.
-Battery: As long as it can be

# Hope that the recommended laptop has not been launched for some time and i prefer ultrabook. Im a gadget geek. So, I will go crazy if after 1 month, there will be new laptop with same brand being launched with MUCH BETTER spec.

I think that's all. Hope you guys can help me out. Really need the laptop asap. There is high possibilty that I will get the laptop tomorrow.

Would be good if you guys can recommend me place to buy the laptop too...

tq for the help.

what do u guys think about samsung series 5?

Series 5 with 620M which model? Sounds ok i think if the price is reasonable. Got FHD? I dont even mind sandy if its dirt cheap

And actually what is equivalent to 640M and beyond if getting ATI chip? Real world usage,not just benchmark

What about this new 5 series which comes with W8 and touch screen?

SAMSUNG SERIES 5 NP540U3C-A01MY ULTRABOOK TOUCH 13.3'
Intel® Core™ i5-3317U-1.7GHz,500GB SATA HDD, 8GB DDR3 RAM,W8

in lelong, it is priced at rm28++

I called one of the Lenovo shops about Y580.

The guy say add RM350 will get 16G RAM. And add RM50, get Win8.

Does it worth it or wait for Y500?

Thanks

^RM3799, i7-3630QM + GT650M SLI..