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 Buying a new laptop? NEED RECOMMENDATIONS? V17, Kindly FOLLOW the FORMAT TQ~!

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post Jan 4 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(stupiddog @ Jan 4 2013, 10:51 AM)
going lowyat today if buy dell in lowyat shop can extend it to 3 yrs for international or need do it online
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You should be able to do it in official retail shops, but the procedure is not that straightforward as just buying online tongue.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 4 2013, 10:53 AM)
You should be able to do it in official retail shops, but the procedure is not that straightforward as just buying online  tongue.gif
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so the only option is dell or asus for international warranty?
lenovo, samsung and sony all local?
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post Jan 4 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(stupiddog @ Jan 4 2013, 10:55 AM)
so the only option is dell or asus for international warranty?
lenovo, samsung and sony all local?
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Most of Asus and Lenovo notebooks come with 2 years standard international warranty
For all other brands, you need to pay a certain amount of money to make in internationally registered nod.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 4 2013, 10:56 AM)
Most of Asus and Lenovo notebooks come with 2 years standard international warranty
For all other brands, you need to pay a certain amount of money to make in internationally registered  nod.gif
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post Jan 4 2013, 11:01 AM

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post Jan 4 2013, 11:19 AM

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need some recommendations

1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - around rm6k
3. Usage - want to play latest games ( farcry3, fifa13 ) on highest setting
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 14-15" +-

Thanks.
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post Jan 4 2013, 11:37 AM

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Hi everyone! I need advice on good laptops. Here's my requirements:

1. Brands - None
2. Budget - Below RM3,000 (but will consider going up to RM3,500 if necessary)
3. Usage - Programming work, photo/media editing and gaming.
4. Screen - 15" and above, preferably 1080p resolution, non-glossy.

Other less important things:
5. HDD - At least 500mb Hard Disk space. A SSD Hybrid would be great too.
6. Weight - Does not matter.
7. Keyboard - layout and buttons somewhat matters but it's something I need to have a hands-on to get a feel of it.
8. OS - Preferably W8 for the REALLY quick bootup speed. Otherwise I can settle for W7.

There's one laptop I've found which I quite like - the ASUS N56VZ - (i7 3610QM, 15.6" 1080p, Nvidia GT650M) but I've not seen one with Windows 8 and a SSD hybrid HDD in retail stores (although their website seems to indicate it's availability). It has really sleek and nice body design but it's also on the pricier side at about RM3599. Can anyone recommend good alternatives based on these? Thanks in advanced! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(asaku21 @ Jan 4 2013, 11:19 AM)
need some recommendations

1. Preferred Brand - Any
2. Budget - around rm6k
3. Usage - want to play latest games ( farcry3, fifa13 ) on highest setting
4. Preferred laptop/screen size - 14-15" +-

Thanks.
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An Illegear would be perfect for you since you can opt for the best specs for the price.
15.6" (customize here: http://store.illegear.com/illegear-noteboo...ear-rs-15.html)
Illegear RS-15, i5-3210M + AMD HD7970M + (1920x1080)@RM5299, 8GB, 500GB(5400rpm), FreeDOS [CPU Options: i5-3210M - i7-3940XM][GPU options: GTX680M]

With your budget, you can just upgrade to an i7 processor, W8 and 3 years warranty nod.gif
Since the X'mas promotion is still on (for a limited time), just grab those freebies 1st..
You can opt to upgrade to SSD later on when you have the money~

If you prefer some other brands, then these:
14"
Dell Alienware M14x R2, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT650M (1GB) + (1600x900)@RM3949[Klipsch], 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm); [CPU Options: i7-3630QM - i7-3840QM], W8, 2 years warranty

Lenovo Y400, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799, 4GB, 500GB, W8, 120wPSU, swappable ODD

15.6"
Asus G55VW-S1216H, i7-3610QM +Nvidia GTX660M (2GB) + (1920x1080)@3999[3.78kg], 4GB, 1TB(5400rpm), W8

Lenovo Ideapad Y500, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M + (1920x1080)@RM3799, 4GB, 500GB, W8; GN36 exGPU, 170W AC adapter

MSI
GX60, AMD A10-4600M + AMD XT HD7970 + (1920x1080; anti-glare)@RM4799, W7HP, MSI backpack, gaming mouse, HDMI cable, 2 years warranty
GT60-ONC, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GTX670MX + (1920x1080;anti-glare)@RM5799[Dyaudio], 8GB, 750GB(7200rpm), W7HP, 2 years warranty, MSI backpack, HDMI cable

*use remaining money to extend warranty to 3 years, and upgrade to SSD icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(eu-gene @ Jan 4 2013, 11:37 AM)
Hi everyone! I need advice on good laptops. Here's my requirements:

1. Brands - None
2. Budget - Below RM3,000 (but will consider going up to RM3,500 if necessary)
3. Usage - Programming work, photo/media editing and gaming.
4. Screen - 15" and above, preferably 1080p resolution, non-glossy.

Other less important things:
5. HDD - At least 500mb Hard Disk space. A SSD Hybrid would be great too.
6. Weight - Does not matter.
7. Keyboard - layout and buttons somewhat matters but it's something I need to have a hands-on to get a feel of it.
8. OS - Preferably W8 for the REALLY quick bootup speed. Otherwise I can settle for W7.

There's one laptop I've found which I quite like - the ASUS N56VZ - (i7 3610QM, 15.6" 1080p, Nvidia GT650M) but I've not seen one with Windows 8 and a SSD hybrid HDD in retail stores (although their website seems to indicate it's availability). It has really sleek and nice body design but it's also on the pricier side at about RM3599. Can anyone recommend good alternatives based on these? Thanks in advanced! biggrin.gif
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One more for you to consider brows.gif
15.6"
Dell Inspiron 15R (Special Edition), i7-3612QM + AMD HD7730M + (1920x1080; anti-glare) + 32GB SSD + 1TB HDD(5400rpm)@RM3199, 8GB,backlit keyboard optional, W7HP/W8

*try to extend warranty to 3 years if possible, it will come in handy since its a Dell ~
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post Jan 4 2013, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(eu-gene @ Jan 4 2013, 11:37 AM)
Hi everyone! I need advice on good laptops. Here's my requirements:

1. Brands - None
2. Budget - Below RM3,000 (but will consider going up to RM3,500 if necessary)
3. Usage - Programming work, photo/media editing and gaming.
4. Screen - 15" and above, preferably 1080p resolution, non-glossy.

Other less important things:
5. HDD - At least 500mb Hard Disk space. A SSD Hybrid would be great too.
6. Weight - Does not matter.
7. Keyboard - layout and buttons somewhat matters but it's something I need to have a hands-on to get a feel of it.
8. OS - Preferably W8 for the REALLY quick bootup speed. Otherwise I can settle for W7.

There's one laptop I've found which I quite like - the ASUS N56VZ - (i7 3610QM, 15.6" 1080p, Nvidia GT650M) but I've not seen one with Windows 8 and a SSD hybrid HDD in retail stores (although their website seems to indicate it's availability). It has really sleek and nice body design but it's also on the pricier side at about RM3599. Can anyone recommend good alternatives based on these? Thanks in advanced! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Jan 4 2013, 11:58 AM)
One more for you to consider brows.gif
15.6"
Dell Inspiron 15R (Special Edition), i7-3612QM + AMD HD7730M + (1920x1080; anti-glare) + 32GB SSD + 1TB HDD(5400rpm)@RM3199, 8GB,backlit keyboard optional, W7HP/W8

*try to extend warranty to 3 years if possible, it will come in handy since its a Dell ~
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Or this one:
Dell
Vostro 3560, i7-3632QM + AMD HD7670M + 32GB SSD + 750GB(7200rpm) HDD + (1920x1080)@RM3209[2.57kg], 8GB, W7HB; colors: red/silver/bronze

These are the only 3 models in Malaysia that has 15"+ FHD anti-glare screen and within your budget ( < RM3.5k).
Anything else is > RM4k, most are > RM5k.
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post Jan 4 2013, 12:42 PM

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Hello guys. My bro is looking for his first laptop, need some expert recommendations here. Im more of a desktop person >.>

anw,
1. Preferred Brand : Any reliable ones - no hassle
2. Budget <2.5k
3. Usage Middle End gaming ? Long hours maybe
4. Preferred laptop/screen size 15" above

Appreciate all the inputs.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Jan 4 2013, 08:52 AM)
the difference in the 4 Nvidia is the graphics card fitted in each of the 4 laptops. the higher numbers of the Nvidia show better performance performed by the graphics card (the highest of all the 4, GT650M).

OD stands for optical drive, which could be a DVD drive or blu-ray drive.
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What is the difference between i5-3210M and i5-3317U? What is B&O?
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Hi sifu,

Lenovo U310-5933-9769
Acer Aspire V5-431-987B4G50
HP Pavilion Sleekbook 14-b009TU

above 3 laptops look good in term of specs, may i ask which one should i go for. I m not a gamer, i m using laptop to do office works, ms apps, torrents downloading, adobe photo editing and so on. Please recommend me the one that suits my usage.
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post Jan 4 2013, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(skyzzable @ Jan 4 2013, 12:55 PM)
What is the difference between i5-3210M and i5-3317U? What is B&O?
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i5-3210M is a Mobile processor. More powerful than i5-3317U, which is a ULV (ultra low voltage). But also consume more power (hence affect battery performance, ceteris paribus)
B&O - Bang & Olufsen, a brand.


Added on January 4, 2013, 1:11 pm
QUOTE(nig3l @ Jan 4 2013, 12:42 PM)
Hello guys. My bro is looking for his first laptop, need some expert recommendations here. Im more of a desktop person >.>

anw,
1. Preferred Brand : Any reliable ones - no hassle
2. Budget <2.5k
3. Usage Middle End gaming ? Long hours maybe
4. Preferred laptop/screen size 15" above

Appreciate all the inputs.
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Acer
M3-581TG-53316G52, i5-3317U + Nvidia GT640M + 20GB mSATA + 500GB HDD@RM2699[2.25kg], 6GB
V3-571G-73614G1T, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT640M@RM2699[2.6kg], 4GB, 1TB, W7HP

Asus
A55VJ-SX093H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT635M@RM2499[2.52kg], 4GB, 750GB, W8; color: black
N56VZ-S3151H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799[2.7kg][B&O], 4GB, 750GB, W8; color: black

Dell
Inspiron 15R (Special Edition), i5-3210M + AMD HD7730M@RM2199, 4GB, 1TB(5400rpm); backlit keyboard optional, W7HP/W8
Inspiron 15R (Special Edition), i7-3612QM + AMD HD7730M@RM2799, 8GB, 1TB(5400rpm); backlit keyboard optional, W7HP/W8

Lenovo
Ideapad Z580, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT640M@RM2299, 4GB, 750GB(5400rpm), W7HB, white
Ideapad Z580, i7-3612QM + Nvidia GT640M@RM2499, 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), freeDOS, white
Ideapad Z580, i7-3612QM + Nvidia GT640M@RM2699, 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W7HB, white
Ideapad Y580, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GTX660M + 1920x1080 @RM2999[JBL], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), W7HB/W8, backlit keyboard, 2 yrs warranty

Price is RSP, negotiable.
Gaming on laptop is expensive smile.gif And there is big difference in GPU power between GT640 vs GT640M laugh.gif
Best bang for buck is Y580. You could get it around RM2.7+k for local set. There are a lot of grey imports around, beware of caveat.
Get good external cooling solution smile.gif


Added on January 4, 2013, 2:37 pm
QUOTE(DeMl @ Jan 4 2013, 12:59 PM)
Hi sifu,

Lenovo U310-5933-9769
Acer Aspire V5-431-987B4G50
HP Pavilion Sleekbook 14-b009TU

above 3 laptops look good in term of specs, may i ask which one should i go for. I m not a gamer, i m using laptop to do office works, ms apps, torrents downloading, adobe photo editing and so on. Please recommend me the one that suits my usage.
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U310 & Sleekbook come with i3-3217U CPU and Intel HD 4000 IGPU.
V5 is only Pentium B987 & Intel HD.

Sleekbook is cheaper than U310.

U series has wireless connectivity issue.

Looking at the above, I think Sleekbook is a better choice among the three sweat.gif

This post has been edited by nexus2238: Jan 4 2013, 02:38 PM
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post Jan 4 2013, 03:14 PM

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Hey guys, trying to find a laptop for my girlfriend who's studying multimedia.

1. Preferred Brand : Any reliable ones
2. Budget : <2k
3. Usage : Adobe products, minimum rendering, little to no gaming
4. Preferred laptop/screen size : Thickness <= 1 inch

She said that she wants a thin laptop and she's sick of slugging around her current laptop, which is quite thick. So I did some research on my own and settled on the HP ENVY 4-1053TX at first. But then when I checked the benchmarks for the processor, I realised that it was sub-par. So I started looking at other laptops in the price range and all of them now use the low powered CPUs. Now I'm stuck. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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You are pretty much limited to low voltage CPU if want thin notebook...
But its not really that "slow".
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post Jan 4 2013, 03:24 PM

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ASUS N56VZ-S3151H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799[2.7kg][B&O], 4GB, 750GB, W8; color: black
Y480, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M (GDDR5) @RM2599 [JBL], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), backlit keyboard, freeDOS
Y480, i7-3610QM + Nvidia GT650(GDDR5)@RM2699[JBL], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), backlit keyboard, W7HB

Is is worth to get the ASUS with more money since it's only i5 while the Y series with i7 and better GT650(GDDR5)?
And is there a big difference between the Y series?Cant decide which is the bet for pure gaming,going to some shops and try soon
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Jan 4 2013, 03:20 PM)
You are pretty much limited to low voltage CPU if want thin notebook...
But its not really that "slow".
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Before the wave of low voltage processors came, I was in the same boat as her, just that I was trying to find a slim gaming laptop. My candidates at the time were the likes of the MSI X460DX and the ASUS U46SV. These were slim and had non-low volt CPUs in them. I presume no one makes laptops like these anymore? These models are no longer updated now :/
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Slim gaming laptop, there are, like the Sony S 13'', Gigabyte U2442N. But it cost more than RM2K..

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post Jan 4 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(JeffChong @ Jan 4 2013, 03:24 PM)
ASUS N56VZ-S3151H, i5-3210M + Nvidia GT650M@RM2799[2.7kg][B&O], 4GB, 750GB, W8; color: black
Y480, i7-3630QM + Nvidia GT650M (GDDR5) @RM2599 [JBL], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), backlit keyboard, freeDOS
Y480, i7-3610QM + Nvidia GT650(GDDR5)@RM2699[JBL], 4GB, 500GB(5400rpm), backlit keyboard, W7HB

Is is worth to get the ASUS with more money since it's only i5 while the Y series with i7 and better GT650(GDDR5)?
And is there a big difference between the Y series?Cant decide which is the bet for pure gaming,going to some shops and try soon
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"Worth" encompass many subjective judgement biggrin.gif
Purely based on specs on paper, Y series give you more power for less money.
However, "worth", is influenced by aesthetic (colour, pattern, design ... ), personal feeling / preference, ... which only YOU can decide smile.gif
Already explain to you about Y series smile.gif Y400 is more bling, with option to expand GPU power later. Specs wise, Y480 & Y400 is the same. Go and see it and you will understand smile.gif


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QUOTE(Prodigenous Zee @ Jan 4 2013, 03:14 PM)
Hey guys, trying to find a laptop for my girlfriend who's studying multimedia.

1. Preferred Brand : Any reliable ones
2. Budget : <2k
3. Usage : Adobe products, minimum rendering, little to no gaming
4. Preferred laptop/screen size : Thickness <= 1 inch

She said that she wants a thin laptop and she's sick of slugging around her current laptop, which is quite thick. So I did some research on my own and settled on the HP ENVY 4-1053TX at first. But then when I checked the benchmarks for the processor, I realised that it was sub-par. So I started looking at other laptops in the price range and all of them now use the low powered CPUs. Now I'm stuck. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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The HP Envy 4 in your link is perfectly capable of doing the usage you describe smile.gif
You have to understand the "benchmark" and their methodology. The reported figures are average, ULV has wider range of High/Low.

Take i5-3210M vs i5-3317U. Both are Ivy Bridge, 2 core 4 thread same cache.
i5-3210M run at 35W, 2.5 GHz, turbo to 3.1 GHz (turbo by 24%)
i5-3317U run at 17W, 1.7 GHz, turbo to 2.6 GHz (turbo by 53%)
So obviously 3210M have more raw power than 3317U. But 3317U when under heavy load, could perform more or less like 3210M under normal load, so 3317U is no slouch either (of course whether the CPU can sustain turbo mode also depends on the temp, so you need to make sure to keep the laptop cool).

2.5 / 1.7 - 1 = 47%
3.1 / 2.6 - 1 = 19%
(2.5 + 3.1) / (1.7 + 2.6) - 1 = 30%

And slim laptop has less space to dissipate heat, you will why understand brand opt for the 17W ULV.

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