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post Oct 4 2012, 11:26 PM, updated 14y ago

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What is the difference between A'level, Foundation and Diploma?

Today my aunt asked me why didn't I study Diploma like his sons but chose A'level instead. I didn't know how to answer.....

To be very honest, I've done my A'level and doing LLB now but I'm not really clear what is the difference between A'level, Foundation and Diploma. The thing that I only know is that you have to take UK papers for A'level while Diploma/Foundation take local papers. Anything more than that, I'm not really sure.

So here the story continues....

My aunt kept telling me how good taking Diploma because it's better than A'level. The standard is higher and the papers are tougher. Well, I don't really care those things because I wanted to work a job related to law since I was young. Therefore, once I graduated from high school I went to education fair and asked for opinion. They suggested me to do A'level so I followed. I never thought about which course is better than the other one until my aunt brought it up.

So is what my aunt said is true? Is Diploma > A'level and an employer is more willing to hire a person with diploma qualification than someone with A'level?

This post has been edited by NicoRobinz: Oct 4 2012, 11:27 PM
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post Oct 4 2012, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Oct 4 2012, 11:26 PM)
What is the difference between A'level, Foundation and Diploma?

Today my aunt asked me why didn't I study Diploma like his sons but chose A'level instead. I didn't know how to answer.....

To be very honest, I've done my A'level and doing LLB now but I'm not really clear what is the difference between A'level, Foundation and Diploma. The thing that I only know is that you have to take UK papers for A'level while Diploma/Foundation take local papers. Anything more than that, I'm not really sure.

So here the story continues....

My aunt kept telling me how good taking Diploma because it's better than A'level. The standard is higher and the papers are tougher. Well, I don't really care those things because I wanted to work a job related to law since I was young. Therefore, once I graduated from high school I went to education fair and asked for opinion. They suggested me to do A'level so I followed. I never thought about which course is better than the other one until my aunt brought it up.

So is what my aunt said is true? Is Diploma > A'level and an employer is more willing to hire a person with diploma qualification than someone with A'level?
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Well your aunt is misguided~~ Probably just cause her sons did it.

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post Oct 5 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Oct 5 2012, 01:26 AM)
What is the difference between A'level, Foundation and Diploma?

Today my aunt asked me why didn't I study Diploma like his sons but chose A'level instead. I didn't know how to answer.....

To be very honest, I've done my A'level and doing LLB now but I'm not really clear what is the difference between A'level, Foundation and Diploma. The thing that I only know is that you have to take UK papers for A'level while Diploma/Foundation take local papers. Anything more than that, I'm not really sure.

So here the story continues....

My aunt kept telling me how good taking Diploma because it's better than A'level. The standard is higher and the papers are tougher. Well, I don't really care those things because I wanted to work a job related to law since I was young. Therefore, once I graduated from high school I went to education fair and asked for opinion. They suggested me to do A'level so I followed. I never thought about which course is better than the other one until my aunt brought it up.

So is what my aunt said is true? Is Diploma > A'level and an employer is more willing to hire a person with diploma qualification than someone with A'level?
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WTF, you're doing an LLB yet you still care about these things?

Some places like the UK's big companies have strict A Level cut-offs (to narrow down the number of eligible applicants for work, because they can filter out someone with a 1st class degree from average school but shit A Levels).

Otherwise, as long as you did fine in your A Levels, it doesn't matter that it isn't a Diploma. You will have an LLB!
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post Oct 5 2012, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 5 2012, 11:43 AM)
WTF, you're doing an LLB yet you still care about these things?

Some places like the UK's big companies have strict A Level cut-offs (to narrow down the number of eligible applicants for work, because they can filter out someone with a 1st class degree from average school but shit A Levels).

Otherwise, as long as you did fine in your A Levels, it doesn't matter that it isn't a Diploma. You will have an LLB!
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Agreed.

To be honest, personally I prize A-Levels way higher than any other pre-university program (even though I did a Foundation program instead) mainly because it's widely accepted all over the world, has a higher standard of quality (my friends had to get a lower overall average for their A-Levels than me even though we were applying for the same course) and almost a must have for certain professions.
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post Oct 5 2012, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Oct 4 2012, 11:58 PM)
Well your aunt is misguided~~ Probably just cause her sons did it.

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Thanks for your very detailed explanation.

So, basically my aunt was right, lols, because:

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Basically assuming everything else is equal, in terms of getting a job,
Bachelor Degree holder> Diploma holder
A Diploma holder>A-levels holder
Going from Diploma to Bachelor's Degree = Going from Pre-U to Bachelor's Degree

This is what she emphasized when doing her 'lecture', lols.


Added on October 5, 2012, 10:11 pm
QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 5 2012, 11:43 AM)
WTF, you're doing an LLB yet you still care about these things?

Some places like the UK's big companies have strict A Level cut-offs (to narrow down the number of eligible applicants for work, because they can filter out someone with a 1st class degree from average school but shit A Levels).

Otherwise, as long as you did fine in your A Levels, it doesn't matter that it isn't a Diploma. You will have an LLB!
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it's not like I care but I just want to know. I'm not gonna stop my LLB just to study diploma and go back to LLB again.

She's telling me everything again because her youngest son (my cousin brother) is doing Diploma. I had heard the same 'lecture' before when both her eldest son and me looking for a college.

Actually, I was bothered when his eldest son was doing diploma while I was doing A'level. She kept comparing both of us how diploma is better than A'level but at that time I didn't care that much.

However, curiosity got the better of me when she was lecturing the same thing again few days ago.

This post has been edited by NicoRobinz: Oct 5 2012, 10:13 PM
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post Oct 5 2012, 10:39 PM

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Then u lecture her back, lol.

Diploma is a terminal qualification. Designed not for people going onto a degree. At least I think it is.

Natural progression is high school up to 6th Form, then degree. Otherwise why would anyone bother doing A Level/STPM, or Pre-Us like HSC, SAM, AUSMAT?

The Diploma you're talking about that isn't a GradDip or PGDip (meant to be taken between an undergraduate degree and a graduate degree to fill in academic requirement gaps) is not officially the requirement for a degree.
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post Oct 5 2012, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 5 2012, 10:39 PM)
Then u lecture her back, lol.

Diploma is a terminal qualification. Designed not for people going onto a degree. At least I think it is.

Natural progression is high school up to 6th Form, then degree. Otherwise why would anyone bother doing A Level/STPM, or Pre-Us like HSC, SAM, AUSMAT?

The Diploma you're talking about that isn't a GradDip or PGDip (meant to be taken between an undergraduate degree and a graduate degree to fill in academic requirement gaps) is not officially the requirement for a degree.
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If you know what person she is, then you'll choose not to answer but just to let her talk tongue.gif . She's quite a self-centered person that whatever she does, it's always the best. For example, her daughter is studying IT and she always says how good and bright this career is. She also asked me why didn't I study IT or Finance like her daughter and son because it's hard to find a job in law field. I don't know why I always got picked, lols. Maybe I usually just give a smile to answer her questions. My other cousins lectured her without giving face, lols.

Now the problem is her son will graduate earlier than me because his son is studying finance. So, when the time comes, I think she gonna say many things again how her son is working and I'm still studying.

Having a cousin around your age is never a good thing..... sweat.gif

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post Oct 6 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Oct 6 2012, 01:31 AM)
If you know what person she is, then you'll choose not to answer but just to let her talk  tongue.gif . She's quite a self-centered person that whatever she does, it's always the best. For example, her daughter is studying IT and she always says how good and bright this career is. She also asked me why didn't I study IT or Finance like her daughter and son because it's hard to find a job in law field. I don't know why I always got picked, lols. Maybe I usually just give a smile to answer her questions. My other cousins lectured her without giving face, lols.

Now the problem is her son will graduate earlier than me because his son is studying finance. So, when the time comes, I think she gonna say many things again how her son is working and I'm still studying.

Having a cousin around your age is never a good thing.....  sweat.gif
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I have heaps of cousins around my age. But I don't have this problem. Relatives are relatives, so I guess I'm lucky that all my aunts would rather have a good laugh over a great meal and encourage those in the younger generation who are working or in school, celebrating success and offering advice rather than criticising everyone's rational decisions.


Added on October 6, 2012, 12:14 pmYou could say it kindly (like puhhlease leave me the fuck alone), or you could choose not to "talk back" to a older relative. But you don't need to justify to her or yourself that your decisions have been the right ones just because someone who is clearly air-headed has questioned them. Bitch please a Diploma doesn't mean fuck all.

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post Oct 21 2012, 07:51 PM

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Lol your aunt is quite self-centered. Nevertheless, don't care about her and her personal opinions. You're doing your LLB so don't bother whether your cousin is going to graduate faster than you or not. The fact is, when you both come out to work, you guys going to face obstacles, hurdles and stuffs. You wanted to do LLB, then go for it.

I'm finishing my diploma soon and am entering year 2 degree after completion. Planning to go to overseas to do my masters when I've got enough money or preferably scholarship. You see. Happily ever after. Lol.
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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Oct 4 2012, 11:26 PM)
What is the difference between A'level, Foundation and Diploma?

Today my aunt asked me why didn't I study Diploma like his sons but chose A'level instead. I didn't know how to answer.....

To be very honest, I've done my A'level and doing LLB now but I'm not really clear what is the difference between A'level, Foundation and Diploma. The thing that I only know is that you have to take UK papers for A'level while Diploma/Foundation take local papers. Anything more than that, I'm not really sure.

So here the story continues....

My aunt kept telling me how good taking Diploma because it's better than A'level. The standard is higher and the papers are tougher. Well, I don't really care those things because I wanted to work a job related to law since I was young. Therefore, once I graduated from high school I went to education fair and asked for opinion. They suggested me to do A'level so I followed. I never thought about which course is better than the other one until my aunt brought it up.

So is what my aunt said is true? Is Diploma > A'level and an employer is more willing to hire a person with diploma qualification than someone with A'level?
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If you're studying LLB in a private college, you need SPM+STPM/A-Levels/Australian Matriculation to take CLP to be admitted to the Malaysian bar.

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post Oct 21 2012, 10:15 PM

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If you have a degree then it doesnt really matter if you did a levels or diploma, they will look at your degree.
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post Oct 21 2012, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(moc12v @ Oct 21 2012, 10:15 PM)
If you have a degree then it doesnt really matter if you did a levels or diploma, they will look at your degree.
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Unless you're a lawyer with solid knowledge of the malaysian bar, I beg to differ.
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/admission_requirements.html


 

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