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post Oct 3 2012, 01:59 AM

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FZ150i only single valve
FZ16 got double valve, more HP but carburettor
R15 got quad valve, very powerful, me like

CBR150R EFI, Quad Valve, 21HP drool.gif

Bajaj Pulsar 200NR 23HP drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(ashyxt_dupe @ Oct 3 2012, 02:03 AM)
bro, both FZ150i & R15 have SOHC 4 valves head... (actually.. basically same engine)
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I see

But why:

FZ150i 14.89hp @ 8500 rpm
R15 16.8 Bhp @ 8500 rpm

The difference in power?
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(ashyxt_dupe @ Oct 3 2012, 02:12 AM)
I read somewhere, the R15's ECU is tuned for higher output (at higher rpm)

FZ150i's torque curve is more flat, so high end power is sacrificed a bit
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Oh well, R15 has 6 speed

But it's made in YINDIA, and i've asked around in JB, no one knows how to repair and has spare parts...

FZ16 勉强 can....

Intend to get CBR150R Carb, but stopped production cuz Boon Siew Msia is selling this and it's no longer on sale, got replaced by the CBR150R EFI, and no one has the parts in JB doh.gif
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Oct 3 2012, 02:20 AM)
ini mana dapat punya facts? doh.gif

FZ16 lagi low-tech dari FZ150i. besides, single valve macam mana mau function? rclxub.gif

both FZ150i & R15 is equipped with electronic fuel injected (EFi) 150cc single-overhead-cam (SOHC) liquid-cooled with quad-valve (that's 4 valve, for those that don't know) engine. the difference between FZ150i & R15 is mainly the gearbox (FZ150i's 5-speed and R15's 6-speed) and power band due to R15's different configuration on the valves & camshaft. that's why you can see the "LC4V" label on FZ150i, R15 & LC135 coz all of them are Liquid Cooled 4-Valve.

FZ16 only has 153cc, twin-valve (yes, that's two less than FZ150i & R15) SOHC engine, air-cooled (like most kapcais like EX5 & Lagenda) and still have carburetor to manage it's air-fuel mixture.
CBR150R with EFi? the latest one, yes, but not sold in Malaysia. the old one (yeah, the "slim" one) is still using carburetor but it does have double overhead camshafts (DOHC) hence more power with a considerably good fuel consumption.

Bajaj Pulsar? the brand Bajaj alone was never here in Malaysia
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Bajaj, no one knows how to fix in JB
CBR150R, yep the slim one has DOHC

Now theres a trend, all DOHC engines are migrating back to SOHC (like the new Civic)
SOHC + EFI for better FC

Wanna find new slim CBR150R pun susah cry.gif

QUOTE(ashyxt_dupe @ Oct 3 2012, 02:20 AM)
ya 6 speed short ratio better acceleration & can stretch out a bit more top speed with the slightly higher hp at high rpm..

but but, R15 & FZ150i's engine are really very identical telur (的咯), I bet even the injection system are the same... how can no one possibly know how to repair worr, may be they don't know wtf is R15? may be only when they strip the engine parts only they know the similarity....

heck even 135LC's engine is similar to FZ150i's laugh.gif

the rest I don't have much comment liao... don't know much....
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Does that means it's a bored 135LC engine?

But at kastam, I see those stock FZ150i tio smoke by those 135LC with loud racing exhausts with their 4 speed box... Even my RXZ can barely keep up using first gear
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(ashyxt_dupe @ Oct 3 2012, 02:35 AM)
oh... I thought same because the difference of max output is marginal tongue.gif... so to extract extra 1hp from 150cc engine.. requires more than I thought

yup yup I am aware of that.. similar but not identical...
those 135LC may be running 62mm or even bigger bore block... O_O plus high cam & bigger carb... & lightweight kapcai chassis... those things can be pretty quick sweat.gif
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Yep, very fast...

135LC is the champion of CHEONG
Wave is the champion of nimbleness
Hayabusa is the champion of irritating the riders near them due to heat
CBR600RR is the champion of making people around it jizz due to the sound
1000GSX (Hayabusa too) is the champion of rev and clutch control due to its weight and gear ratio


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post Oct 3 2012, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(ashyxt_dupe @ Oct 3 2012, 02:42 AM)
hahahaha laugh.gif

actually EX5 has high resale value loh here in M'sia... especially the pre-thailand batch

& bike thief's primary target ohmy.gif
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EX5 pun ada olang mao culik ahhh? New one only RM4k nia
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Oct 3 2012, 02:47 AM)
carburetor might provide higher output due to higher flow of fuel, hence the higher rate of combustion. fuel injection on the other hand are designed for fuel efficiency, so that's pretty much explains.

and yes, chassis weight does contribute to performance as well. I admit my FZ150i can't overtake the new 5-speed 135LC, and I think that carburetor and relatively lighter chassis compared to FZ150i helps a lot.
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sigh, my RXZ even EX5 also can't overtake, upslope over 100kmh

Flat out 110kmh, due to intake and output restriction on overpowered 2T bikes in SG

Dunno what bike to change now...

CBR150R EFI also cannot
CBR150R carb not in production anymore
FZ150i no more in SG, replaced by the crappy FZ16
R15 no cheap spare part in JB, all ori parts in SG from India
Bajaj Pulsar 200NR no parts in JB

basically im stuck with my RXZ cry.gif
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post Oct 3 2012, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Oct 3 2012, 03:02 AM)
what to do. both v1.0 & v2.0 R15 are made & assembled in India. at least Singaporeans are lucky enough to have them officially in the market, unlike Malaysia. but I can see more and more FZ150i owners here converted their bike to R15, with parts ordered directly from Yamaha India biggrin.gif
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Dont like R15's rear seat

V2 feels like a Ninja 150, slim and very aggressive riding position, me no rike
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post Oct 3 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(suicai99 @ Oct 3 2012, 09:45 AM)
time to upgrade to a cb400 then.
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No time to take license, plus maintaining a CB400 is more expensive than maintaining a Wira....

You will cry.gif when you overhaul its engine
Tires itself costs a lot already
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Oct 3 2012, 02:16 PM)
my one-year-old FZ150i just passed the 30k km mark. not a problem at all. just do regular oil change & also others like oil filter, air filter, spark plug, coolant. my bike is not just an everyday beater, but I also "lenjan" it every now and then. done a few long distance trip as well like Kuala Kangsar & Kuala Terengganu

yeah, in stock condition around 120kmh still no vibration. around 130-140kmh you can feel the engine is "meraung" already. maybe it's nearing it's limit. by that moment the rpm is usually around 9.5k
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Yes, thats the word im looking for

When I reach 120kmh, i floor it, it will roar, but it wont go up, exhaust sounds muffled

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