QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Oct 30 2014, 09:51 AM)
you do know that the KDS 450QS is a 6ch machine, right? it doesn't fly anywhere near the small v911's characteristic. it's more complex to setup, harder to fly, and requires more knowledge to maintain. crashing is pretty inevitable in your 1st CP flight and crashing a 450 will yield more damages than crashing a v911.
you can actually see how a heli flies by looking at the flybar. the v911's flybar is 45 degrees to the main blade. this means it would auto stabilize if you let go of the cyclic stick. the 450qs, or any other CP(6ch) helis, has a 90 degree flybar. this means once you push the cyclic in on direction, it will just move in that direction until a counter force is applied. no auto stabilization. so even hovering in a 4ftx4ft square is difficult to master.
i'm not trying to discourage you or anything. just want you to know what you're getting into. if you're up for the task, then by all means.

seen to many people jumping into CP then quitting this hobby because they cant handle the crashing and setups.

Yes, I'm fully aware of the difference in channels involve, and the fact that one uses a 45 degree flybar and one uses a 90 degree flybar. An the fact tha one is fixed pitch and the other is collective pitch.
The KDS is one of the cheapest 6 ch 450 size heli, with "cheap" parts. So I can replace them when I crash. (I know I will surely crash, I just really hope not on my first flight..)
Which is why I'm asking if I should consider the KDS Flymentor, it returns the heli back to hovering position the moment the no input is given by the cyclic stick. I know this is a difficult hobby, but it's just too interesting to pass..

But thanks for the feedback!