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post Jul 29 2016, 03:17 PM

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Hello all, I'm about to take the plunge into the RC world. Been wanting to do this since Standard 4, but you know life has its priorities... and RC flying was priority #17263.

So 35 years later, here I am.

I hv decided to start by building a quadcopter since it seems to be the least threatening to fly, especially with a GPS-equipped flight controller. But before I start throwing money buying all the bits and pieces, I need some advice from you senior guys:

What radio should I buy?

My requirements are:

1) Not clunky like the toy-grade ones with the nasty buttons, dip switches and hollow plastic shell that break when a noob like me tosses it around.

2) Has battery voltage telemetry, to save myself from crashing the quad because I won't know how to gauge how much juice I have left.

3) Has a 1km range at least, so that I won't outgrow it when I check out FPV flying later on.

4) 2.4 ghz, so that it won't interfere with 5.8 ghz transmitters in the future.

5) 7 channels at least, so that I can control camera gimbals in the future.

6) Costs around RM550 at the most.

I'm thinking the RadioLink AT10, but I'm hoping maybe you seniors know of better options..?
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post Jul 29 2016, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Jul 23 2016, 09:02 AM)
Pushing my Mini UAV Wing Wing Z-84 up to 31km flight trip distance.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MJvs1mLzn4
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Hey that's my favourite vaping 18650 battery..!

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post Jul 29 2016, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Jul 29 2016, 04:46 PM)
rm550 for only radio or whole quad?
If radio, I suggest AT9 or AT10. aka 'cheap taranis'(I own one AT9 too) rclxms.gif

If for whole quad....nope you wont go anywhere... whistling.gif
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RM550 for the radio lah.

Ahh... since you own an AT9, do you know where I can find that plug that goes into the back of your RadioLink AT9 transmitter for training purposes?
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post Aug 2 2016, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Jul 30 2016, 10:41 PM)
APM based (ardupilot) flight controller handled GPS flight perfectly, already put hundred and thousand miles worth of mission on all my planes and my quads. Perfecto and cheapo. smile.gif  Of course you'll need to know how to program it. biggrin.gif
Are you using APM..?

After a month's worth of reading, I reckon this is the best bang for the buck for GPS flying. Found one going for US$26 and a plug-in GPS for another US$14, shipping US$5... that's under RM200 for a GPS-capable FC... could not argue much against APM at that price.

I'll start building in Oct.
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post Aug 4 2016, 10:37 AM

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By the way... where do you guys recommend I go to buy LiPo batts?

Need 4S 4000 mAh 35C.
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post Aug 10 2016, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Aug 5 2016, 09:16 AM)
I get mine at www.hobbyking.com
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How much do they charge to ship LiPos here?

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post Nov 8 2016, 03:41 PM

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Hi guys... after months of studying while waiting for the parts to arrive from Banggood, I have finally gotten around to building my first ever mini quad using a Kingkong 210-sized sandwich frame + CC3D on LibrePilot.

It's soooo satisfying to fly something I had handpicked the specs for, assembled, screwed together, soldered with my own two hands and configured on my laptop all on my own.

Now I can finally graduate from RealFlight 7.5 simulator and my stupid toy micro drone to the real thing. LOL...

Already I learned that a low voltage buzzer is not an accessory but a necessity because I stupidly drained out my two new 2200mah LiPos. One went puffy... the other one, well... I'm learning how to recover a badly discharged LiPo now. *SIGH*
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post Nov 9 2016, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Nov 9 2016, 12:53 AM)
TIP: use those tester and alarm combo thingy. one that you can set the alarm level. i like to set the alarm at 3.7v during flight. that way, when you land, you batt will be around 3.8v = storage voltage.  thumbup.gif
Hey good tip!

BTW.... where can I get locking nuts for my propellers? My RCX motors came with those spinner type thingies that have a habit of coming loose. The other day a plastic bag floating in the wind snagged one of the props and the spinner just disappeared. Now I'm grounded until I can find a way to screw down the prop.

The specs say the prop mount has a 5mm shaft, does that mean it'll take M5 size lock nuts?

http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-h18066-2400kv-...ame-p-7990.html

Also... when throttling down to land, my quad has a nasty habit of bouncing like a yo-yo before even touching the ground. As a result I tend to cut the throttle causing the quad to land hard. Is this normal?
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post Nov 10 2016, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Nov 9 2016, 02:33 PM)
M5 nut is 5mm, yes, but you need to check the thread spacing as well. if you don't plan on removing the props after each flight(to store in a case or something), just get some thread lock(blue).

throttle is usually pretty linear, and prop wash wont really cause bouncing. does it happen in all mode, rate and stabilize mode?
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The spinner that spun off and disappeared after snagging a plastic bag did have blue threadlock in it. I noticed this problem is more pronounced on CW props, because the direction of spin tends to undo CW nuts. And those spinners are not cheap (about US$1 each), I can't afford to keep losing them on a regular basis.

It happens in all modes. I'm going to recalibrate my transmitter & CC3D then I'll dial in a new, flatter throttle curve on my transmitter. We'll see how that goes this weekend.
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post Feb 10 2017, 10:39 AM

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Thinking of building an X-UAV Sky Surfer X8 for FPV flying later this year.

Does anyone know where I can get the foam laminated with monocote?
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post Feb 25 2017, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(kyoshooo @ Feb 22 2017, 01:23 AM)
Another option get indoor micro drone for first try. Damn fun for a start. Once you get used to FPV than only invest on bigger quad. eFlight inductrix FPV from USA is a good beginner micro drone  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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True. Before choosing a car, gotta learn how to drive first. Before choosing what drone, gotta learn how to fly first.

I built a 210-sized sandwich quad to learn to fly with, since the frame looks very sturdy & can take a hard smack into a tree. But I can only fly outdoors, which limits my flying opportunity.

Then I got an Eachine E010 for like RM60... whoahh I can learn to fly indoors anytime! So cheap too & it's pretty much indestructible.

The Furibee F36 is exactly like the e010, but flies even better for the same price. I got that too, since it looks like it can haul a micro 25mW FPV cam much better. Cheap ass Tiny Whoop!

Totally recommend the Furibee F36 as a trainer to those wishing to buy DJIs in the future... that's if their egos aren't too big to learn to fly with a cheap china miniquad.



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post Mar 14 2017, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Mar 14 2017, 09:38 AM)
What situation that 2 blade props will break in air.
I think this is second time the 1 of the blade break around the hub connect section.

And quad crash another break on landing skid....w*f I mean...

I think there no way other to change CF props?
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Always inspect for white stress marks on ur props. Sometimes when ur props hit something, they will fly ok at first... but the damage will show in the form of stress marks. A few flights later the stressed plastic suddenly gives way.

Some plastics are more brittle than others and are more prone to suddenly giving way when damaged.. esp the larger props that are physically subject to greater stresses during flight.
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post Mar 15 2017, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Mar 15 2017, 10:49 AM)
Yes. Two similar situation got a white mark on hub.
Can be notice the cracked or breaking blade get throwing away by big force from 10k+ rpm motor.

But the strange is, my blade is gemfan carbon nylon. Not el-cheapo plastic one. And this broken props only changed few flight ago(2-4 flight)
So mean to, if me not changing to CF. There will no solution to fix?
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Having bashed my CC3D drone into trees & walls a number of times (newbie style), I have come to treat props as consumables.

These things will break eventually coz you're bound to hit something. Sometimes the drone flips. Sometimes the drone mows the grass. Sometimes it trims the trees & hedges. All these things will damage the props to varying degrees... some just a bit, some a bit more... but eventually they will all add up and cause the prop to break.

So personally... I don't buy fancy expensive props. They're gonna break too eventually so what the hell.

My fave are the Kingkong 6045 and Kingkong Triblade 5045.

Durable enough to withstand my hamfisted flying. And when they about to break, they're cheap as hell to replace.

In your case... better ask the sifus whether got cheap props for DJI drones or not.

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post Mar 15 2017, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Mar 15 2017, 01:21 PM)

But random break like this actually happen second time...
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SNAFU eh... hmm if you're dead sure the props in question were totally undamaged and yet they simply and inexplicably broke up during hovering, then maybe it's a quality issue.

At any rate, it could be a signal for u to avoid buying this brand of props.

If you ask me though, breakages are more likely with larger props and those made of brittle material.

Everyone knows carbon fibre doesn't give and flex as well as cheaper thick plastic... and when they hv had enough, they simply shatter.
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post Aug 9 2017, 05:48 PM

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I have an Eachine E010 and the Furibee F36 that I had whooped by soldering a micro camera + VTx. Both use the same Eachine E010 battery.

Does anyone know where to buy batteries for the Eachine E010.

150mAh 45C.

Checked on Banggood, eBay etc... apparently China suppliers all refuse to ship this battery to Msia.
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post Aug 9 2017, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(ltwvince @ Aug 9 2017, 07:17 PM)
I'm using these Floureon H101 260mAh 30C battery from Gearbest. You can get them at http://www.gearbest.com/rc-quadcopter-part...l?lkid=10406000.

Make sure you use the Priority Line for shipping. I find this the only option to get battery shipped to Malaysia.
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Oh nice! What microquad are you using these on?

What type of connectors do these batts have? If they're not the Eachine one, I will need to find the corresponding one to solder to the power terminals.

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post Aug 10 2017, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(ltwvince @ Aug 9 2017, 08:25 PM)
The connector is different, is a Micro Losi/Walkera instead of JST-PH 2.0 as what used buy E010 or F36. You can either solder 1 extra connector or cut the current connector on the FC to enable you plugging in this Micro Losi/Walkera connector. For more information on how to modify this, please visit https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2920424 and go to post #2.

I'm whooping with my custom SilverWhoop v2 that I build from scratch. Details at https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2780269.
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That's a damn nice step-by-step tutorial. Sweet!

Bought 2 sets of those Floureon batts on Gearbest.

Went to eBay and got some 2-pin Walkera connectors. Along the way I saw some 3amp LC filters (looks like pre-built torroid inductor + capacitor) for like under US$2 a pop, grabbed a few of those too for my upcoming HJ-Y3 tricopter build and maybe an HMF-Y600 tricopter GoPro platform in the future (using 4215-650KV motors, 30A ESCs & APM 2.6 repurposed from an S500 quadcopter project that never happened).

I'm a happy chappy.

Thanks heaps, mate!
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post Aug 21 2017, 09:33 PM

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RC porn..!! I think I'll skip the Taranis QX7 (plasticky) and I'll pass the Taranis X9D Plus SE (getting old in the tooth).

Interesting to note that the Taranis QX7-S is also in the works, this time with hall effect gimbals... unfortunately still with that toy-like plasticky shell.


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Frsky Horus X10 – lighter Horus X12S or advanced Q X7?
by montis 14/07/2017 | 11:55 3 Posted in New products

Frsky has announced their new radio transmitter – Horus X10. It has the outlook of the X7 and the features of X12S. It is lighter than Horus X12S and has some less features like no GPS and no 6-axis sensors and is powered by a Li-Po battery. Thus price range will be lower than X12S – around $330.

The new TX features hall effect gimbals, Frsky proprietary firmware (as in Horus X12S), menu navigation rotary wheel is similar as in Q X7. Horus X10 has external antenna and also two internal antennas, as well built-in upgraded iXJT Module.

We are waiting for more information.

Preliminary features:

AudioSpeech Outputs (values, alarms, settings, etc.)
Full telemetry and real-time data logging
Antenna detection and SWR warning
All CNC 6ball bearings gimbals with accuracy hall sensor and extensible by stick ends
Built-in wireless trainer system
6 position encoder for easier flight modes switch
Easy to set up models with FrSky FrOS operation system
MP3 Player and Speaker
Industrial High Resolution TFT Screen Readable Outdoors
Two internal and External Antenna selectable
Lighter than the X12S
Lithium-ion battery
Available in 2 color options



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post Oct 12 2017, 12:19 PM

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Want to get an F3/F4 Omnibus Pro for my next build after CNY. Need baro & magnetometer.

Where do you guys recommend I get it from?

Price is a major consideration, but then I loathe the risk that comes with cheap Chinese knockoff boards from Banggood/Ali/eBay.

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post Nov 21 2017, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Nov 21 2017, 09:36 AM)
There no such things as knock-off these days, duplicated hardware by different manufacturer known as 're-branding'  it means one hardware made by same manufacturer (contractor) where label printed to fit others branding but the board grade depends on how much the branded company pays the manufacturer to win the QC quality.  Less QC quality parts sell to lowest company bidder.  I used to work with marketting level in manufacturing sector back then so i know what going on in there.  Anyways best place to get F3/F4 Omnibus Pro still at https://www.banggood.com, i got most my projects parts there.
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In that case, how do I avoid ending up with dud, faulty FCs on BG?

Is price an indication of quality on BG?

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