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IvanWong1989
post Sep 10 2015, 07:02 PM

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hmmm.... any recommendation on beginner quad flight controllers?

I might be getting a

Flysky i6
450mm quad ---> usual... 4 esc, 4 motor, 4 props
4500mah lipo for quad
Lipo charger

How about qq super thunder?
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Added 3 module with multi module & did the antenna mod for someone else.
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post Sep 15 2015, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Sep 9 2015, 11:26 PM)
Hmm.... rm700 bucks.... where to find? dunia rc or quadcopter malaysia?
hmmm interested.....  i m currently in penang though... they do COD?
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A guy named 'Low Hong' from Melaka seems to have alot of budget quad parts for sale, he even offers package deals

Can check out his store page here

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1653233401557900/

Disclaimer though, I had not dealt with him before and am recommending solely from looking at his adverts on DRC and various other RC/quad groups. He seems to be pretty reputable and experienced for quads and airplanes. Don't look like he have heli stuff though.

QUOTE(SupermotoXL @ Sep 10 2015, 09:20 AM)
A ground station a secondary FPV monitor, a DVR and sometimes a telemetry module attached on tripod to record the plane movement, telemetric information, tracking and also most importantly as plane 'BLACK BOX' should anything happen to the plane.  I only use standard 5.8ghz vtx, video goggle with head tracking system, standard FCC compliant radio control transmitter.  What make it a successful long range flight was a home made modified video/radio antenna transmission which i built my self thanks to the internet.



Yes it has GPS telemetry data on my OSD, fly beyond light of sight from cockpit view.  As you can see inside this video below somewhere in the middle of the video clip there's an inset of HUD(OSD = pilot view) layout that shows instrumental flight data, altitude, orientation and other stuff which allow me to fly without looking outside scenery if i do stuck inside the clouds or flying in the dark just like real pilot.

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Sounds cool! So you actually record the actual video being transmitted by the VTX on your setup on top of the seperate video recorder you placed inside the plane eh. What is required to consider it as a 'ground station'? Is your antenna actually still on the default positions or is it an external antenna module of some sorts? I see you're somewhat avoiding the question of what TX you're using, but looking at your site I'm guessing some Turnigy model? laugh.gif

QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Sep 10 2015, 07:02 PM)
hmmm.... any recommendation on beginner quad flight controllers?

I might be getting a

Flysky i6
450mm quad ---> usual... 4 esc, 4 motor, 4 props
4500mah lipo for quad
Lipo charger

How about qq super thunder?
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Honestly I have no experience on quads so can't really recommend but I see CC3S and QQ being pretty popular.

QUOTE(davidwyl @ Sep 10 2015, 09:56 PM)
Added 3 module with multi module & did the antenna mod for someone else.
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Looks nice! So, now what to do to make use of the CC2500 module? laugh.gif

Anyway, I just got hold of a WK-CTL01-D Telemetry module for my V450D03, now I can monitor the voltage and important temps directly on my tx and quickly land before my battery explodes! Woohooo!!

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After a quick flight today the connection seems to be pretty intermittent and unstable, hit up the Deviation forum and they asked me to install the latest nightly. Apparently the 'Nightly' under downloads section isn't exactly the latest nightly. I thought my 26-7-2015 firmware was the latest nightly already but the real Nightlys are under 'Test Builds' and can be reached here. Did a quick bench test earlier and all seems good!

Also had a near-major crash earlier today when a component of the swashplate, being the anti-rotation pin and pitch control ball link unscrewed itself, mid-flip! Managed to hit throttle hold in time and somehow got the heli back upright and landed pretty damn hard, but on it's skids! Zero damages from that 'crash'. Need to inspect my rotating components more frequent and also add in some loctite. I think my heli did 3-4 hours of flight time without inspection in this area which is why it happened.

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Happy flying!

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post Sep 15 2015, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Sep 10 2015, 07:02 PM)
hmmm.... any recommendation on beginner quad flight controllers?

I might be getting a

Flysky i6
450mm quad ---> usual... 4 esc, 4 motor, 4 props
4500mah lipo for quad
Lipo charger

How about qq super thunder?
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first thing that you (and everyone else who wants to get into this hobby) do is set what's your goal? You want to take aerial pics? open business? fpv racing? Too many cases of ppl spending a fortune just because their friends do too. These kinds of ppl are the ones who quits the hobby within a couple of months. If you're not serious just quit now because this is a big money sink. So what's your goal?
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post Sep 15 2015, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Sep 15 2015, 01:04 PM)
first thing that you (and everyone else who wants to get into this hobby) do is set what's your goal? You want to take aerial pics? open business? fpv racing? Too many cases of ppl spending a fortune just because their friends do too. These kinds of ppl are the ones who quits the hobby within a couple of months. If you're not serious just quit now because this is a big money sink. So what's your goal?
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I'm a bit of a tinkerer.

I build robots. Mini. . Study ai. Open stuffs to know how they work.

I also like to fly
But so far my experience limited to flight simulators. N private pilot license. Is way out of my league. Just an average jor not rich not very poor.

interested in quads for a long time but $$$ prevented me from engaging when I'm still a student. Now after 1 2 years working.
Considering put aside some money for it. *financial people will say it's stupid. Better save money buy house. But life isn't just about saving saving to me.. there's more. *

as for the goal.
I'm going for a smaller quad n hopefully branch out to fpv.
Later on only think about aerial photography.
I want to view fpv flying High n fast.



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post Sep 16 2015, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 15 2015, 12:22 AM)
So, now what to do to make use of the CC2500 module? laugh.gif

Anyway, I just got hold of a WK-CTL01-D Telemetry module for my V450D03, now I can monitor the voltage and important temps directly on my tx and quickly land before my battery explodes! Woohooo!!
I do it bcoz it can be done 😂 & frsky is a famous brand in RC. With cc2500 I can use frsky receiver (planing to buy a 250 size quad diy kit in the future).
And I noticed frsky receiver is cheap compare to other brand (I might be wrong due to limited knowledge in receiver)

@Nightstalker1993 can u share your v450 .ini model file? Just want to see how others do it.


Btw I did another deve 7e for my fren
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post Sep 16 2015, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Sep 15 2015, 11:53 PM)
I'm a bit of a tinkerer. 

I build robots. Mini. . Study ai.  Open stuffs to know how they work. 

I also like to fly
But so far my experience limited to flight simulators.  N private pilot license.    Is way out of my league. Just an average jor not rich not very poor.

interested in quads for a long time but $$$ prevented me from engaging when I'm still a student.  Now after 1 2 years working.
Considering put aside some money for it. *financial people will say it's stupid.  Better save money buy house. But life isn't just about saving saving to me.. there's more. *

as for the goal.
I'm going for a smaller quad n hopefully branch out to fpv.
Later on only think about aerial photography. 
I want to view fpv flying High n fast.
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I guess you can join those facebook groups I mentioned and I'm sure you will find what you want. FPV racer or Drone Rempit as they call it(laugh.gif) are flooding those groups and there are plenty of stuff to choose from multiple sellers. Once you get hit by the flying bug you won't stop bro, unless you become like what debonairs91 mentioned. Set a goal, find out what really interests you, do your research, make sure you know how everything works, what component does what etc then make a list of components you need to get. Also not forgetting to get the necessary tools. For heli you'd need at the most basic a hex key set and a decent small sized screwdriver set.

I'm planning to branch out to fixed wing and quads when I get the chance financially smile.gif

QUOTE(davidwyl @ Sep 16 2015, 04:55 PM)
I do it bcoz it can be done  😂 & frsky is a famous brand in RC. With cc2500 I can use frsky receiver (planing to buy a 250 size quad  diy kit in the future).
And I noticed frsky receiver is cheap compare to other brand (I might be wrong due to limited knowledge in receiver)

@Nightstalker1993 can u share your v450 .ini model file?  Just want to see how others do it. 
Btw I did another deve 7e for my fren
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yeah no doubt FrSky is a famous brand in RC but I don't think their receivers are that cheap. FlySky I know is cheap though. Does the Deviation protocol for FrSky do telemetry and also I heard the FrSky protocol can alert you when the signal is weak, does Deviation have that? Maybe I'll swap out my A7105 module for the CC2500 if I find a need for it in the future. Don't fly my V911 anymore so the A7105 module is kinda wasted space.

For me my next aircraft I'll still run a Devo RX. The RX601 is only RM60 or so after convert from Banggood and the 10ch receiver is around RM100 from Banggood as well.

Awesome job on the 2nd 7E bro! Looks awesome with the tri-antenna man. My V450D03 model file is attached, you can have a look at it. I set mine in flight mode 3 to be for autorotation though as my heli's receiver/gyro is kinda unique in that the gyro only works above certain throttle value so if I hit throttle hold for autorotation practise, the gyro doesn't work and it'll be a beaaaatch to control.

Also recently installed the Walkera telemetry unit onto my heli, now I can remove the annoying low voltage beeper and fly with much more confidence having the battery voltage in my hands and also monitoring tail servo, ESC and battery temperature in case any of them goes beyond limits. Main page looks messy as hell now with the telemetry data on the main page on top of each other covering the heli icon laugh.gif

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post Sep 16 2015, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 16 2015, 10:50 PM)
I guess you can join those facebook groups I mentioned and I'm sure you will find what you want. FPV racer or Drone Rempit as they call it(laugh.gif) are flooding those groups and there are plenty of stuff to choose from multiple sellers. Once you get hit by the flying bug you won't stop bro, unless you become like what debonairs91 mentioned. Set a goal, find out what really interests you, do your research, make sure you know how everything works, what component does what etc then make a list of components you need to get. Also not forgetting to get the necessary tools. For heli you'd need at the most basic a hex key set and a decent small sized screwdriver set.

I'm planning to branch out to fixed wing and quads when I get the chance financially  smile.gif
yeah no doubt FrSky is a famous brand in RC but I don't think their receivers are that cheap. FlySky I know is cheap though. Does the Deviation protocol for FrSky do telemetry and also I heard the FrSky protocol can alert you when the signal is weak, does Deviation have that? Maybe I'll swap out my A7105 module for the CC2500 if I find a need for it in the future. Don't fly my V911 anymore so the A7105 module is kinda wasted space.

For me my next aircraft I'll still run a Devo RX. The RX601 is only RM60 or so after convert from Banggood and the 10ch receiver is around RM100 from Banggood as well.

Awesome job on the 2nd 7E bro! Looks awesome with the tri-antenna man. My V450D03 model file is attached, you can have a look at it. I set mine in flight mode 3 to be for autorotation though as my heli's receiver/gyro is kinda unique in that the gyro only works above certain throttle value so if I hit throttle hold for autorotation practise, the gyro doesn't work and it'll be a beaaaatch to control.

Also recently installed the Walkera telemetry unit onto my heli, now I can remove the annoying low voltage beeper and fly with much more confidence having the battery voltage in my hands and also monitoring tail servo, ESC and battery temperature in case any of them goes beyond limits. Main page looks messy as hell now with the telemetry data on the main page on top of each other covering the heli icon laugh.gif

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Bro. What do you fly currently ?

Also.. Normally where do you order your stuffs ? Wondering which site is reliable. I normally order from cytron for non rc stuff. Just electronics. Local seller.

But for rc stuff hmm......

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Sep 16 2015, 11:01 PM)
Bro. What do you fly currently ?

Also.. Normally where do you order your stuffs ? Wondering which site is reliable.  I normally order from cytron for non rc stuff.  Just electronics.  Local seller.

But for rc stuff hmm......
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Well I fly a Micro heli WLToys V977, and a 450-sized heli, a Walkera V450D03.

For my V977 I get most of my spares from Banggood.com and also certain items for my 450. If I can purchase locally and the price does not differ much I will purchase locally. My Devo 10 I got it from a dude from the DRC Facebook group.

Don't know of any one-stop website for multirotors yet but I think there are some local sites selling it yet to be discovered. I think it's easier to find sellers on the fb group and contacting the sellers directly. Can check out the Melaka dudde I mentioned, seen him posting alot of stuff recently and his price seems to be pretty cheap. My personal opinion though, spend more initially for your transmitter and choose a good one. A good transmitter can last you for ages without needing to upgrade etc.

Anyway, just rearranged my screen, now it looks better laugh.gif

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New file in the attachment. Also attached is the splashscreen I'm using, found it in the Deviation forum and hell lot cooler than the stock splashscreen brows.gif

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post Sep 17 2015, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 16 2015, 11:30 PM)
Well I fly a Micro heli WLToys V977, and a 450-sized heli, a Walkera V450D03.

For my V977 I get most of my spares from Banggood.com and also certain items for my 450. If I can purchase locally and the price does not differ much I will purchase locally. My Devo 10 I got it from a dude from the DRC Facebook group.

Don't know of any one-stop website for multirotors yet but I think there are some local sites selling it yet to be discovered. I think it's easier to find sellers on the fb group and contacting the sellers directly. Can check out the Melaka dudde I mentioned, seen him posting alot of stuff recently and his price seems to be pretty cheap. My personal opinion though, spend more initially for your transmitter and choose a good one. A good transmitter can last you for ages without needing to upgrade etc.

Anyway, just rearranged my screen, now it looks better laugh.gif

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New file in the attachment. Also attached is the splashscreen I'm using, found it in the Deviation forum and hell lot cooler than the stock splashscreen brows.gif
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Haha
I've ordered from a local penang guy here. Quite a nice guy.

Getting a basic flysky i6 first. Lol. 6 channels only though.


Zmr250
1806 2300kv
12a simonk esc
flip32+ Fc
flysky i6 Tx
ia6 rx
5030 prop.
2 2000mah lipo
power distribution board.
Lipo charger.
lipo charger multiple breakout board.

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 15 2015, 12:22 AM)

Sounds cool! So you actually record the actual video being transmitted by the VTX on your setup on top of the seperate video recorder you placed inside the plane eh. What is required to consider it as a 'ground station'? Is your antenna actually still on the default positions or is it an external antenna module of some sorts? I see you're somewhat avoiding the question of what TX you're using, but looking at your site I'm guessing some Turnigy model? laugh.gif
Honestly I have no experience on quads so can't really recommend but I see CC3S and QQ being pretty popular.
Looks nice! So, now what to do to make use of the CC2500 module? laugh.gif
I did blog about my ground station, you can find out more here about basic setup: http://www.supermotoxl.com/FPV/UAV-models-...enu-id-119.html

My GS has default antenna while my other compact alternative is this one: http://www.supermotoxl.com/Real-object-des...enu-id-118.html


Btw sharing my this week R/C flying activity at the beach, here some videos added in my channel:

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Sep 17 2015, 12:39 AM)
Haha
I've ordered from a local penang guy here. Quite a nice guy. 

Getting a basic flysky i6 first.  Lol. 6 channels only though.
Zmr250
1806 2300kv
12a  simonk esc
flip32+ Fc
flysky i6 Tx
ia6 rx
5030 prop.
2 2000mah lipo
power distribution board.
Lipo charger.
lipo charger multiple breakout board.
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MyRCMart? Only Penang one I can think of haha. When you building it up then? Do post your progress!

Thanks for sharing SupermotoXL! Very informative article you've written. And no wonder you can get so long range flight, youre using a high gain directional antenna laugh.gif

I see in the article you wrote about antenna tracking, how exactly does it work? How does it home in on the antenna signal to know the direction and adjust the antenna angle from there? hmm.gif

Anyway, today I helped my friend with the Devo 7E range mod and holy shit the diode is bloody small! You really can't really tell how small it is from all the photos online until you really see it. My eyes hurt after doing the mod, using my flashlight for illumination at the highest brightness and also the solder used to maintain my soldering iron tip condition goodwhile removing that damned radio shield!

The diode really caught me by surprise how small it is and i do not have conductive ink with me. Masked the area with masking tape and somehow managed to desolder the diode unintentionally then I used a single strand of wire and used that to help bridge the two points with the solder and it worked! After the solder dried, cut off the test of the wire and triple check that there is no short and reinstall the rf shield. Flight test and the range mod worked!

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Ok la, not bad to train my soldering skills laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 18 2015, 12:58 AM)

The diode really caught me by surprise how small it is and i do not have conductive ink with me. Masked the area with masking tape and somehow managed to desolder the diode unintentionally then I used a single strand of wire and used that to help bridge the two points with the solder and it worked! After the solder dried, cut off the test of the wire and triple check that there is no short and reinstall the rf shield. Flight test and the range mod worked!
told u it is small biggrin.gif ....great u managed to do it. thumbup.gif

dont need to swipe out you a7105 la, msg me if u need a multimodule v1.3 i got extra (i got 3 multimodule board on the way now).
i can pre-program the atmel chip for u (i bought the USBASP programmer board just for this project laugh.gif ) ,

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all u need is to solder 3 module onto it.
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i fly super cp, master cp & v977. those setting initially abit confusing, but after a while playing with it. now kinda more familiar with it d.
super cp & master cp can fly using the same model with same setting. i believe all walkera heli setting are quite similar.
thank for you ini files. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 16 2015, 11:30 PM)

New file in the attachment. Also attached is the splashscreen I'm using, found it in the Deviation forum and hell lot cooler than the stock splashscreen brows.gif
i want an unique splash start up for my devo 7e, so i made one for my self.
feel free to download the zip file.

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Goofing around with my little ninja FPV quad:

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Guy I plan to start RCing again.

Used to have race cars, forklift, usb rc, mini rc, and so on.

This time want to go for flying stuff.
Preferably Heli/Drone, coz they able to fly static and require less space.

Budget around RM200, what do you guys reckon?
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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Oct 1 2015, 05:57 PM)
Guy I plan to start RCing again.

Used to have race cars, forklift, usb rc, mini rc, and so on.

This time want to go for flying stuff.
Preferably Heli/Drone, coz they able to fly static and require less space.

Budget around RM200, what do you guys reckon?
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Recommended. Bayangtoys X9 for beginners. Cheap also...

http://www.gearbest.com/rc-quadcopters/pp_164622.html
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Oct 2 2015, 11:59 AM)
Recommended. Bayangtoys X9 for beginners. Cheap also...

http://www.gearbest.com/rc-quadcopters/pp_164622.html
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can tell me more about drone vs heli?

btw, its real affordable but battery last 5/6/7 min only? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(mkmobile @ Sep 2 2015, 03:50 AM)
Hi guys, previously i was trying to get the Tarantula X6. After reading some reviews, I went for the Syma X8C, since it has more lifting power and more stable in wind resistant than X6.
And yes, the stock 2MP camera is useless, don't waste your time on that. Get cams like Mobius HD / XiaoYi / SJCam.

Tied up my SJCam SJ4000, and fly it up to see the outcome. I would say it works better than I expected.

It seems can fly up very high, till I almost cant see the drone. Fly time is abit short, just around 8 minutes.

Hazy days.. otherwise could be nicer with clouds  sad.gif

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Next steps would be upgrade to bigger batteries, FPV and extending the transmitter range.
And off course, need to get rids of those landing legs in the photos.  sweat.gif
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Nice, Im also looking for X8C + Yi Action camera.
BTw, how dou you mount the SJCam?
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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Oct 2 2015, 03:45 PM)
can tell me more about drone vs heli?

btw, its real affordable but battery last 5/6/7 min only? unsure.gif
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The X9 is a good beginner's quad...

Read more here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2446608

The battery only 150mAh, get a few batteries...

Anyway I'm not sure about the difference about wuad vs heli as I also just started playing with quads only. My first quad was the Hubsan X4 H107L and FQ777-124 Pocket Drone...

Now flying my Nihui U807. Got the XK X250 and MJX X600 on the way from banggood or gearbest...

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