how?can teach me?
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Feb 18 2006, 01:35 PM, updated 20y ago
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how?can teach me?
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Feb 18 2006, 04:44 PM
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i would say it depends on your own taste
but it's advisable to keep the level below the max that you can hear your subs producing 'flat' sound. |
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Feb 18 2006, 07:46 PM
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set it as low as possible if u have a high voltage HU
else set it accordingly.....use ur own ears to judge |
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Feb 23 2006, 06:43 PM
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If you have pre-amp, just set the Bass and Trebel to 0 i.e flat sound..
Control the tone through pre-amp or HU... As for gain, set AS LOW AS POSSIBLE, but not 0 as it will give -ve gain, which is SOFTER than original sound... Other reason to set it as low is to avoid your amp overheating.... |
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Feb 23 2006, 09:22 PM
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I'm setting my monoblock gain to 1 o'clock and it still running cool. It is hitting the sub like nobody business. Free massage to your body
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Feb 23 2006, 09:25 PM
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why set so low? I'm setting my monoblock 1200W monoblock at 1 o'clock and it is running cool. It is hitting the sub like nobody business. Free body massage
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Feb 23 2006, 09:48 PM
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lol
if it's cool then maybe its ur amp not working liao an amp will create heat no matter wat branded amp u're using especially u're setting high gain |
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Feb 23 2006, 11:39 PM
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try setting it (near) max and see how long (hours) you can blast...
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Feb 24 2006, 08:24 AM
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I said "cool" by means that it is running at okay tempreture. You can feel slight warm only even hitting high spl.
If set as low as possible then better don't have an amp at all. What the use of it if set it so low? |
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Feb 24 2006, 10:20 AM
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FYI, my amp set at zero gain
gain setting very much depend on the HU and sometimes the amp itself my 9835 got 4V output once i put zero gain..the sound is so much cleaner but a bit soft..so i left it at 7o'clock as for my D2..it has 4v output also but my amp setting sets at zero gain because the amp is quite high power This post has been edited by driftmeister: Feb 24 2006, 10:26 AM |
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Feb 24 2006, 02:18 PM
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yupe... setting the amp to high gain might get you louder volume (good for SPL competition) but at the cost of loosing SQ and over heat very fast...
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Feb 24 2006, 08:55 PM
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but this doesn't happen to monoblock amp where it doesn't oveheat as all. Thats why some amp comes with remote gain where you could play with it.
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Feb 25 2006, 10:15 AM
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what kinda amp will also face overheat problem ler
monoblock is not god |
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Feb 25 2006, 12:28 PM
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If one plays within the limit of the amp (not pushing to the limit). IT WILL NOT OVERHEAT. There is no such thing as all amp will overheat.
I have been travelling long distance playing not stop and also blasting on some song. All I can felt is 4 channel amp heat is warmer wheres monoblock just slight warm. If every amp goes overheat who would want to use it.? |
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Feb 25 2006, 12:43 PM
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as i told u
ALL AMP WILL OVERHEAT this is a known fact but dun get misunderstand it will overheat by itself even u set it to zero gain playing with gain settings is very important and gain settings is very much depends amp output and input an amp accepts 4v input will not need much gain if the HU is 4v out or above if u're using like normal HU pioneer 2/3/4/5 series, 2004 modls of kenwood which has oni 2.x v then u will need to set the gain if a gain is set correctly no matter how long u play it ...there wont be heating problem (but dun la play until 24 hours continuously) |
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Feb 25 2006, 01:06 PM
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thats my point is. Not pushing to its limit. But agreed on your explaination.
QUOTE(driftmeister @ Feb 25 2006, 12:43 PM) as i told u ALL AMP WILL OVERHEAT this is a known fact but dun get misunderstand it will overheat by itself even u set it to zero gain playing with gain settings is very important and gain settings is very much depends amp output and input an amp accepts 4v input will not need much gain if the HU is 4v out or above if u're using like normal HU pioneer 2/3/4/5 series, 2004 modls of kenwood which has oni 2.x v then u will need to set the gain if a gain is set correctly no matter how long u play it ...there wont be heating problem (but dun la play until 24 hours continuously) |
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Feb 25 2006, 08:53 PM
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i think both right...
amp WILL produce heat, but not overheat all the time... *if overheat all the time, then? he use monoblock = produce less heat, and draw less current than traditional Class AB designs. ... play @ low volume for a very long time = no problem, but will overheat if high volume even if @ 1/2 an hours rite? |
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Mar 1 2006, 07:29 PM
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I just like to confirm this ...
If set gain correctly (usually less than 50% max volume) IT WILL NOT OVERHEAT when played at long hours.. If the gain is set high >70%, it take less than 1 hr for the amp to overheat... Usually when overheat, the amp will cut power to the block, if a bit severe, it will burn the fuse, and in extreme cases it will destroy the amp completely... This apply to all classes of amp.... |
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Mar 1 2006, 09:33 PM
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AGREED!
QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Mar 1 2006, 07:29 PM) I just like to confirm this ... If set gain correctly (usually less than 50% max volume) IT WILL NOT OVERHEAT when played at long hours.. If the gain is set high >70%, it take less than 1 hr for the amp to overheat... Usually when overheat, the amp will cut power to the block, if a bit severe, it will burn the fuse, and in extreme cases it will destroy the amp completely... This apply to all classes of amp.... |
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Mar 2 2006, 01:10 AM
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okie here is how i use the gain control.and here is how the story goes.pada zaman dahulu, i got 2 component sets. 1 set front 1 set rear. 1 day when i was driving my car i notice that my stereo doesn't sound rite. the vocal coming out from the front comps are all over the front winscreen. it doesn't stay focus. okie what struck my mind at that time was the gain control. there was a slight diff in loudness from L and R. what i did was, i took a spl meter. feed my comps with pink noise. measure the DB and voila. diff in few DB. so i went back to the rear of my boot(where my amps is) and tweak around the gain control. guess what, the vocal stay put on a spot.
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Mar 2 2006, 07:47 AM
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scotty, you mean you actually had a rational scientific approach full of logic ? rather than spent days talking about it in this forum and end up not doing anything because you're afraid of blowing your whole car away ?
you're sooo lame |
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Apr 28 2006, 01:57 PM
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this thread starter is conman i bank in money to he le but no. still no get who know him pls tell me thanks everyone pls give me back money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This post has been edited by jack1984: Apr 28 2006, 03:56 PM |
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