look at the lats, glutes and hams


Again Kai killing him on glutes and hams, plus his lats are much bigger


Really hopes he wins it someday. He really deserves it.

Kai was always big at the back.. But Olympia was more about full body conditioning not just single body part... Personally Phil was more natural compare to Kai.. Kai is good but Phil was better.. I still love Branch Warren and Wolf btw..

IMO Phil came in less conditioned compared to last year.

Phil's back is thicker. Also Phil's traps is significantly bigger than Kai's.

Maybe but he look so much natural to me..

His traps genetics is bigger than kai no doubt. But imo his back looks thicker cause his conditioning was off.

Waistline way smaller than kai.

mass wise kai might be bigger but phil looks better imo. His traps do make a difference

No other poses to compare? Or phil beat kai in those too?

Front wise Phil's chest and abs are way better than Shawn and Kai. Definitely winner for me...

I can never look at Kai the same after the grapefruit incident (Google "Kai grapefruit" if you don't know what I'm talking about).

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This post has been edited by Dar1en: Oct 3 2012, 03:55 PM

I strongly advise against this.

This post has been edited by -Dan: Oct 3 2012, 03:34 PM

Lol, my bad Dan. Should have added a warning.

Waistline is genetic tho.

IMO Kai seems bigger from the front also

Phil wins hands down. Not being biased or anything but the front pics especially the last one pretty much settles it.

So phil has betteer genetics, and therefore wins. I don't see a problem.

He was off conditioning wise. Carrying more fat than Kai did, inspite of Kai looking bigger. Genetics shouldn't matter. Mass and conditioning should.

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on the contrary, its 90% genetics game. he wins, and i dont blame the judges.

bodybuilding isnt just about mass and size.

Understandable, but at the same time, it's not all about genetics. Kai has awesome genetics too, which is why he made it to at least second place. IMO it should be more focused on true bodybuilding which in order is: mass, condition and genetics.

In an ideal world, definitely. But unfortunately that just isn't the case.

Oh and, can't touch Phil when it comes to most-musculars, TBH.

Only part that stood out better than Kai was shoulders on that shot.

i tot phil's wheels run the show, no?