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post Nov 6 2012, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ Nov 2 2012, 06:34 PM)
Hi there.

A question from an a levels student really interested in doing pharmacy...

I have no interest in doing industrial work or etc., since I like the idea of using my knowledge to assist others while working with people.

But I'm more of an analytical person than a person who can memorize things really well.

So my question is: For a hospital/retail pharmacist, what do you all think about the ratio of memory work to analytical skills required?
50:50?

Also, I suck horribly at memorizing formulas for trigonometric functions and how to integrate them etc. (B/c I barely understand trigo), but I am good in grasping stuff related to biology (especially stuff like evolution and natural selection where a bigger picture is involved). Do I need trigo skills when doing pharmacy?

Thanks (sorry if some of the questions are rather stupid ): )
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Hi, I'm a final year student in Uni of Nottingham, UK. It's true that you will need to memorise tons of things like physiology and pharmacology etc, but at the same time, you will be trained to analyse situations by considering factors like signs & symptoms, past medication history etc and decide which drug or what kind of treatment is needed for a particular patient. The latter part is what I find most interesting and challenging.
About calculation, well, you don't have to worry about integration, differentiation and those complicated A-level Math topics, basically just simple chemistry calculations which I believe you've already learnt in A-level will be involved. Of course, there're some other slightly more complicated formulations in courses/subjects like spectrometry, drug delivery etc etc, but I believe it won't be a major problem, so don't worry ya biggrin.gif

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post May 15 2013, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(Decky @ May 14 2013, 07:05 PM)


Will it make a difference in terms of job opportunities depending on which Uni I choose? Let's say I get a degree from Strathclyde via my twinning program. Will an employer prefer a Nottingham degree over mine? Does it work that way?

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no, it doesn't work that way, i'm in my final year in Notts, many of my friends from Stratchclyde (twinning) had managed to secure pre-registration positions in both community and hospital settings, so no worries smile.gif
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post Feb 15 2015, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(iclemyer @ Feb 12 2015, 06:28 PM)
Hi, I'm currently an A-Level student who will be taking A2 this coming June. I just want to ask, if I study the MPharm course at University of Nottingham (2+2), will the certificate be the same as those who study directly 4 years at University of Nottingham? I hope to register as a Pharmacist in Singapore and University of Nottingham is in their list of international accredited universities. But I'm wondering if this only applies to UK citizens, or anyone holding the certificate. Thanks in advance guys! biggrin.gif
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Hi. Yes, the MPharm cert for 2+2 students upon completion of the degree would be the same as those who study full time in the UK campus. The same applies to the recognition of the cert as well. I myself practice in the Malaysian government setting since graduation and I have plenty of coursemates who are currently practicing in the UK and Singapore.
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post Feb 15 2015, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ Jan 14 2015, 02:07 PM)
Anyone with experience in hospital pharmacy? My modules have been mainly about community pharmacy (UK based) so I don't exactly know what happens in the hospital as a pharmacist, especially in Malaysia.

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Hi, Decky. Ya, I understand your concern. I experienced that too when I first started my PRP. It is true that we didn't learn that much about injection stuffs, particularly on the use of IV antibiotics in the university, but I believe with adequate effort in learning, you will survive just fine, in fact, it is a lot easier to learn in real life practice compared to learning from the textbooks. smile.gif
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post Feb 15 2015, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(iclemyer @ Feb 15 2015, 04:36 PM)
Oh! Thank you so much. But I just saw on the Singapore Pharmacy Council's website that "*The whole course must be done in the campus of the University/Country offering the pharmacy qualification." So would that mean it's no longer recognized? That sentence seem to imply that we have to finish all 4 years in UK sad.gif  rclxub.gif
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Oh, I see. I'm not too sure about this. Back then in 2012/2013, they even conducted interview sessions in Nottingham, UK for MPharm final year students who wished to do their pre-reg in Singapore and a few of my friends who did 2+2 have successfully received their offer.
Well, I guess the best way to find out is to give the university a call and ask them about it.
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post Feb 15 2015, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(iclemyer @ Feb 15 2015, 04:47 PM)
Oh that's nice. smile.gif Its okay, I have just emailed the council and I'll just wait for their reply. The course is kinda pricey though :S Did you manage to secure a scholarship (or are there any available) for the last compulsory 2 years at the UK campus?
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Haha, I see. Ya, it is indeed pricey. Yup, I was a JPA scholar back then. It's pretty hard to secure any sponsorship for the 2 years of studies in the UK, but during your time in the Malaysia campus, you could easily secure PTPTN loan and partial tuition fee waiver if you manage to meet their academic requirement. I believe the information on the partial tuition fee waiver is available on the UoN Malaysia website.
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post Feb 15 2015, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(iclemyer @ Feb 15 2015, 04:47 PM)
Oh that's nice. smile.gif Its okay, I have just emailed the council and I'll just wait for their reply. The course is kinda pricey though :S Did you manage to secure a scholarship (or are there any available) for the last compulsory 2 years at the UK campus?
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Haha, I see. Ya, it is indeed pricey. Yup, I was a JPA scholar back then. It's pretty hard to secure any sponsorship for the 2 years of studies in the UK, but during your time in the Malaysia campus, you could easily secure PTPTN loan and partial tuition fee waiver if you manage to meet their academic requirement. I believe the information on the partial tuition fee waiver is available on the UoN Malaysia website.
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post Mar 15 2015, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(star kk @ Mar 10 2015, 07:41 AM)
which private uni  the best for studying pharmacy course in M'sia? any suggestion ?
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I can't comment much on which private uni is the best in Malaysia. But, I hope this helps.

I graduated from 2+2 MPharm, Nottingham, I think it prepared me well for my PRP year, however, due to the lack of exposure to the Malaysian hospital settings, graduates from Nott tend to struggle a bit in the beginnig of PRP life, but luckily it ends up all well for me and my batch mates.

During my year as a PRP in a local government hospital setting, I've met many friends who graduated from IMU (BPharm and MPharm) and Monash. From what I noticed, graduates from these two universities possess strong clinical knowledge and most of them have great working attitude. They told me that they had plenty of attachments at hospital and community pharmacy settings during their years in uni.

Well, personally, I believe you will never go wrong with Nott, IMU and Monash if budget is not an issue. All the best smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2015, 12:35 PM

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hello, haha, just wanna try my luck, is there any Peg. Farmasi U41 here currently working in Semenanjung and would like to do mutual swapping to the state of Sabah? smile.gif
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post May 7 2015, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Mandy_Cheong @ May 6 2015, 09:37 AM)
Hey my first post in LOWYAT >.<
Have several questions here.
How do pharmacists get into industry actually?
I do know that to work as clinical pharmacists you will need to complete pre-reg in hospitals.Fresh graduate now can even complete pre-reg in retail if they decide to become community pharmacists.
How about industrial pharmacists then?

I am a JPA bound students so i am under obligation to work under government hospital for 6 years.However i am intersted in becoming industrial pharmacists since i like research works...

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Hi, just for information sharing, you can be actively involved in research too when you are serving as a pharmacist in government hospital. In fact, you will have to take up a research project during your PRP year in a government hospital, though their definition of "research" can be quite broad, it may be a quality assurance project, so it won't necessary be R&D kind of research. However, I do know plenty of senior hospital pharmacists who are part of clinical trial teams.

I'm JPA bound too, so, ya, I can tell that 6 years are indeed not short at all, I agree with @zstan, hopefully you will pick an undergraduate course due to your interest.
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post May 18 2015, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 18 2015, 03:02 PM)

no you won't be doing the same things. your boss may rotate you every year to different departments of the hospital without your say.

in malaysia, you become a clinical pharmacist if there's an opening or if the boss simply rotates you to be one. hence having an additional qualification does not really matter although it will certainly improve patient care with added knowledge. clinical pharmacist (or ward pharmacist) is where you follow doctors doing ward rounds and giving therapeutic recommendations. you won't be involved much in drug dispensing and other stuff.

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Ya, I agree on the boss may rotate a pharmacist to the clinical unit without one's say, however, usually an individual has to demonstrate a certain degree on clinical knowledge before being appointed to become a clinical pharmacist.

Just to make a correction, a clinical pharmacist in a government hospital setting is required to carry out bedside dispensing where you carry the discharged medications to the ward and dispense to the patient directly, so, you will still be involved in tons of drug dispensing, and there are quite a few of other stuff to take care of, for examples, therapeutic drug monitoring (TDM) for your particular ward (some hospitals may have a TDM pharmacist who manages all TDM cases), drug and device counselling, ward checks (checking on floorstocks) etc. smile.gif
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post May 18 2015, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 18 2015, 10:31 PM)
that is in the best case scenario... but there are times in some places when the boss just decides to put someone who has never been attached in clinical, to clinical when there is an unexpected vacancy..all pharmacists should have a certain degree of clinical knowledge anyway..

which clinical pharmacist still does that..? laugh.gif  these jobs have been relegated to PRPs nowadays.. kindly enlighten me.  biggrin.gif
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Well, I'm not too sure, but I believe those jobs that I mentioned in the previous post are in their Sasaran Kerja Tahunan, at least the clinical pharmacists in the two hospitals I've been working so far do carry out those stuff. Haha, if a clinical pharmacist neglect those jobs, it simply means he/she is not a competent clinical pharmacist. Oh well, PRPs are required to do almost everything from A to Z, sudah biasa lah... hahaha XD

Just curious, are you currently a PRP?

 

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