Bangkok? GOnna pay it a visit as I'm going there for bean hunting end of the month

where to buy?

That's a lot of coffee!

Just got my arabica beans and grind 12g to fine and tamp it hard and it does come out 2 ounces of espresso for 22seconds but why the taste is sour? zzz

Trying for a friend.. he's opening a cafe soon.

Haha.. espresso has sourness.. but 12g for 2oz? Are you aiming for double? Cuz 12g is still around single shot area.. unless you're going for Italian doppio which is 14g. If you want more body, let the blonding go a bit longer.. that will add some bitterness to it.

yea im doing double shot. but I tot i saw somewhere that state double is 12g for 2oz haha. I know got sourish but macam too sour for me but the ethoupia is more sour than this LOL. hmm what is blonding means?

Some machines will recognize 12g as double.. but for most, 12g is too little for a double.
Blonding is the end part of the extraction.. whereby the thick and syrup like crema has turned yellowish or towards translucent. This will carry bitterness.. beginning of the shot will have more acidity, then middle is more on sweetness..

I see I see, what is your ratio for double shot? Hmmm. I see, willll PPF affect the taste? cause I feel that the shot come out very fast even if I tamp

I'm using a 58mm PF and I weigh my beans.. for my double, I normally use 18g. For some blends, with only arabica beans.. I will use 20g because it's sweet.. so I prefer to have more body by up-dosing..
As for pressurized PF, the only thing it works good is the pressured crema
So far, I tamp around 20kg of force.. but I've tried light tamping and still get the right extraction.. Now I normally just level the coffee by tamping and polish..

Hmm I see will try to up my dose on next brew. Yea I got nice "fake" crema but the taste yucks Hope the Non Pressurized basket I ordered can fit my portafilter

Hi Keng,

I have the Poemia too, replaced the Panarello with this Saeco Wand its also a pannarello wand but when you take out the outer part it will be a normal steam wand sort of extension of the 'short' steam wand when you remove the default pannarello. Pannarello wand is hard to maintain especially keeping the tiny hole unclogged.

Install this on your Poemia and start steaming your milk just before the steaming light comes out (usually around after 25-30 seconds after you flick the switch to "steam" ), that way you will have constant and powerful steam as the boiler heats up the water to produce steam. This is because once the steam light is ON the steam generated by the boiler is sometimes not powerful or sufficient to steam and create a strong whirlpool, that is why others on the internet recommend steaming your milk right before the steam light turns on. This way the boiler won't stop heating the water inside thus producing steam on a constant rate.


You can try steaming your milk by removing the default panarello wand and use the short tip of the steam wand but you have to have more milk in your pitcher because the steam wand is short. I recommend the steam wand above to extend the short steam wand.

Ciao.

This post has been edited by skitZo`: Dec 13 2014, 02:48 AM

walao tried 18g and tamp it, when i switch on wait 5 sec the espresso still haven't come out and I quickly turn off cause scare the machine burst LOLL. when I throw the puck the bottom part still quite dry. Hmmm

I think you will have to wait till your non pressurized filter basket arrives then try again. Maybe your grind is too fine.. For now, it seems to be choking the machine.

Hi, for my machine the espresso flows out at around 8-10 seconds. 15-16g per dose , output 45-55ml of espresso at 27-29 seconds.

So I guess you could wait for awhile more to see whether the espresso flows out and time the whole extraction then adjust your grind or dose.

hmm i see. I scare the portafilter there willl burst so i quickly turn off hahaha. will try next time

P/S: my basket is pressurized

This post has been edited by wadthehellz: Dec 13 2014, 11:56 PM

Try find it at AEON BIG. Cheap.

Pressurized portafilter cannot use the 25-30 seconds rule
Can only go by taste

Hmm that makes sense, if wait 30 sec I think will fill the whole cup already

My bad, as far as I remembered before I depressurized my portafilter on the poemia , I had espresso extraction at 15-17 seconds for 50-70ml at 14g of coffee.

You can updose with presurrized filter just don't tamp too hard just flatten the surface of the coffee in the portafilter.

What machine are you using?

Cheers!