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post Dec 6 2015, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 6 2015, 10:38 AM)
where to get espresso bean that less than 10 days old since mostly commercial pack most likely more than the time period when they put on sell...

so you mean that i need to get an unpressurised portafiler?
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Many recommendations few pages back. We don't buy from supermarket. ymeng85 diy roasts n sells.

For now no. Get fresh beans first. Find a way to weigh your dose. Buy from the shop ask them to weight out say 15 g "sample" so you know how much it looks like.

I have a digital scale. I weight when I start on a fresh bag to tune grind and dose settings, then I note down how big/small "scoop" I need. I finish the rest of the bag adjusting grind and dose by "experience". I'd advocate getting a scale if you are serious.

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post Dec 6 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 6 2015, 11:50 AM)
ok, ill get the fresh bean first.. thx alot! happy.gif
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I edited my post above....
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post Dec 7 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Dec 6 2015, 09:57 PM)
So if you try to grind finer, the coffee grounds will resist the incoming pressure and the resulting output from the bottom end is a lower pressure liquid (but exactly the coffee you want!) which is unable to push thru the spring to exit to your cup and so you end up with a choked machine
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Not entirely true, at the "proper" grind coffee will still come/flow out nicely, will not choke the machine. I have done this with my friend's Poemia, using grinds tuned to my HX. The flow profile about the same as my HX, the latte tastes about the same. I didn't do much more tuning as I just wanted to see how it flows and taste. It flows very different to her store bought powder.

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Without the coffee being the restrictor however (grinding coarser) you're not going to be able to generate real sweet flavorful crema unfortunately
The crema is more oily emulsion slightly more "bitter". The sweetness of sugar is more in the water part of the coffee.


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post Dec 7 2015, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 6 2015, 10:05 PM)
so at this moment i think ill just stick to the default basket first, try to adjust the coffee to bit coarse than jz now.
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good...if you don't have a proper and consistent espresso grinder and tamper, forget about depressurizing your filter for now...

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post Dec 7 2015, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 7 2015, 09:54 AM)
but pressurised basket also can make a nice and thick crema too?
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pressurized basket destroys good crema...creates fake crema...

good crema is velvety smooth...bad fake crema is big bubbly mess

for now don't worry about it...with fresh coffee, proper grind, dose and tamp, the crema will not be too bad. smile.gif
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post Dec 7 2015, 10:12 AM

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2+ week old beans this morning...what nice colour still smile.gif

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post Dec 7 2015, 10:19 AM

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...still sucks at art biggrin.gif



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post Dec 7 2015, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 7 2015, 10:23 AM)
nice art!
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you should see the swan with the snake head rclxub.gif doh.gif

the whole family ROTFL biggrin.gif
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post Dec 7 2015, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(ymeng85 @ Dec 7 2015, 10:35 AM)
p/s Crema looks a little thin? Need that slightly rust color no?
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yes a bit thin...2-1/2 weeks beans...plus I swirl the cup a bit. golden rust color was there...pic taken under FL light and after white balance not showing up...also this is a medium dark before 2nd crack...
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post Dec 7 2015, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 7 2015, 10:14 AM)
is this from the pressurized basket? it look so awesome!
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Non P
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post Dec 8 2015, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 7 2015, 09:04 PM)
I dont think this is so call latte cause the pattern is form by the foam not the crema and milk...

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Latte means 1 part espresso to 3~9 parts milk.

"Latte Art" is formed by crema and microfoam milk.

Your espresso looks too weak/watery...usual causes stale beans, bad grind, low dose, too much water.

Your milk looks too foamy...too much air. Microfoam looks like wall paint or whipping cream. You don't actually get any bubbles when you froth it well, and it stays that way until you finish the cup. The microfoam does not come together to form bubbles.
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post Dec 8 2015, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 8 2015, 11:37 AM)
espresso seems more like a problem for me more cause i couldnt get a nice crema.. i jz got my lavazza qualita oro few days back, thought it will be ok, end up still disappointed... been try fine and coarse grind, both still gave out the same weak crema... any more tips or advice to improve the crema?
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Get fresh beans!

Where do you work / stay?
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post Dec 8 2015, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 8 2015, 11:48 AM)
work in klia,stay in klang... any places that i will be able to get fresh bean in klang area? been asking around few cafe near my area, they didnt sell beans
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Perhaps some of the folks can help. Afraid I don't know any places in Klang.
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post Dec 8 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 8 2015, 12:00 PM)
haha, yea im waiting for suggestion from the others who can advise me to get fresh bean near my area..heheh

do mind to share with me where you notmally get your fresh bean from?

also with ppf, fresh bean, nicely grind coffee, is it able to achieve the thick crema that i expected? or the ppf should also change to bottomless/non ppf only will able to get a nice thick crema?
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Just got back from Antipodean @ Tan & Tan. Bought 2 bags of beans, one roasted 30/11, the other 5/12. Very nice timing! Will start one bag tomorrow and the other on the weekend. biggrin.gif

Kfchan's MyEspresso @ Subang is another place and their beans are usually between 2-4 weeks old.

I usually buy according to roast dates, which means I don't know in advance what beans I'm going to get.

If buy online, you have more control.

Stop worrying about ppf and getting thick crema for art...I had no problems with the Poemia as-is.
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post Dec 8 2015, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 8 2015, 03:22 PM)
nice! normally they sell in how much? how much per g? since we always wanted to get a nice fresh coffee, how long do u finish all before it start to get weak?
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250g for RM26.5

I junk them after 3rd week, if any left.

Go read up & watch intro articles & videos at http://www.home-barista.com
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post Dec 8 2015, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(aranny2001 @ Dec 8 2015, 06:56 PM)
wow, junk it after 3 week... that price is not expensive either... omg, i should probably pay a visit to those cafe, maybe espresso lab at ss15.

thx for the link also^_^
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That espresso lab sells 2 blends, darker espresso and milder moka. Both are OK, suggest you get the espresso blend. RM40+gst.

Of the espresso blends, I prefer Kfchan's Quartro, more aromatic medium roast very well balanced. RM33 per 250g bag.
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post Dec 9 2015, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Dec 9 2015, 03:40 AM)
wouldn't that fail the 5-10 days past roast date requirement? 15 days if do latte but if beans already 3 weeks old thats 21 days..

30/11 roast date.. Dec 9 is 9 days past roast date, U sure consume your coffee fast
5/12 roast date still have alot more time
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5-10 is what I'd typically consider optimum, especially for light-medium to medium roasts, especially for espresso. Some beans as you know peaks later. This period is where the light floral and fruity flavors are at its Max. These are lost as the beans ages. In a latte, you can smell them but difficult to taste them. The heavier "base" notes of nuts, caramel, coco/choc stay behind and don't get lost. You can still make a decent latte with older beans but the smell is not as nice.

I had a hard time deciding should I get the 30/11 bag. It was either that or no coffee today. I chose the latter. Half the bag is done by this weekend to make way for the 5/12, the other half is frozen wink.gif
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post Dec 9 2015, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Dec 9 2015, 08:05 AM)
I thought 5-10 days rule is what u go by. Hey no one is prefect to sin is human lol
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Desperate bro....really desperate biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

ps: Kfchan's Quattro sometimes can get within 1 week old...

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post Dec 9 2015, 08:53 AM

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New beans...medium roast...9 days old...


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post Dec 9 2015, 08:58 AM

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Perfect microfoam if I do say so myself...right after frothing...no bubbles...no need to tap tap tap...


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