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post Sep 25 2012, 11:19 AM, updated 14y ago

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I was raped badly in Act 3 Lv 10. Even with near 150k Dps W/o SS, I can't draw 1/2 life of white mob by cluster bomb. This is ridiculous level for Demon Hunter.


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post Sep 25 2012, 12:16 PM

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i wonder how monk will survive this haha
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post Sep 25 2012, 12:25 PM

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post Sep 25 2012, 12:38 PM

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look just over there, i never imagined such a creature
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post Sep 25 2012, 12:42 PM

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post Sep 25 2012, 12:44 PM

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150K dps without SS DH cant survive . i am 90k dps only lol
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post Sep 25 2012, 12:44 PM

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how will barb/wiz/monk play with the nerf on them

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post Sep 25 2012, 01:04 PM

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maybe every 3-5 pack u will get 1 lagendary rclxms.gif

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post Sep 25 2012, 01:31 PM

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this is prolly why they nerfed ww barb and cm wiz those 2 builds can easily cheesed through p10
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post Sep 25 2012, 01:32 PM

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150K damage without getting rid of a single monster ....whoopeee.....
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post Sep 25 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Neofushion @ Sep 25 2012, 01:32 PM)
150K damage without getting rid of a single monster ....whoopeee.....
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yea
saddest case
my Wizzie with 39k DPS
I foresee my 10 mil will gone within hours,
repair cost cry.gif ohmy.gif sweat.gif
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post Sep 25 2012, 01:43 PM

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the rape is strong in this one
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post Sep 25 2012, 01:55 PM

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If those with normal equipment can take MP lvl 10 then no point they introduce this new system.

It meant for us to grind for new equipment to take this down, i think the co-op will be much more fun now.


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QUOTE(kanethesun @ Sep 25 2012, 01:43 PM)
yea
saddest case
my Wizzie with 39k DPS
I foresee my 10 mil will gone within hours,
repair cost  cry.gif  ohmy.gif  sweat.gif
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to solve ur problem, use the wand that LOLs at your death

fucuk blizz for giving wiz useless stat a otherwise guding weapon mad.gif
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post Sep 25 2012, 02:37 PM

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can anyone login to PTR

im gonna try mp10 with 200k dps wiz


Added on September 25, 2012, 2:38 pmwhats the advantage of playing MP10 btw? increased rewards right? but better how?

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post Sep 25 2012, 02:40 PM

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It's the time to rebuild our gears now for 105 Real D3..
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QUOTE(biatche @ Sep 25 2012, 02:37 PM)
can anyone login to PTR

im gonna try mp10 with 200k dps wiz


Added on September 25, 2012, 2:38 pmwhats the advantage of playing MP10 btw? increased rewards right? but better how?
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higher bonus MF, GF and EXP.
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post Sep 25 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 25 2012, 02:40 PM)
It's the time to rebuild our gears now for 105 Real D3..
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i have no more gold to even buy a single item.

double trouble for me, i keep hearing insufficent arcane power + insufficient gold
and real mani is not an option

thx Nerfzard

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post Sep 25 2012, 03:01 PM

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post Sep 25 2012, 03:06 PM

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we need a complete set of tanker and DPSer roll
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post Sep 25 2012, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Sep 25 2012, 03:06 PM)
we need a complete set of tanker and DPSer roll
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Time to swap ur credit card...
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post Sep 25 2012, 03:14 PM

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Muahaha, I still keep about 30USD in bnet account (residue of rmah selling) was eager to convert to gold back in 2 weeks ago when the price hit 1.4USD low that time.

Now is 0.7USD per million! gonna wait till 0.25/million (or till I die die die nonstop)...

But then what can be bought with 50mil right now? 1 pc of eq? can't do much...
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 25 2012, 03:14 PM)
Muahaha, I still keep about 30USD in bnet account (residue of rmah selling) was eager to convert to gold back in 2 weeks ago when the price hit 1.4USD low that time.

Now is 0.7USD per million! gonna wait till 0.25/million (or till I die die die nonstop)...

But then what can be bought with 50mil right now? 1 pc of eq? can't do much...
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wow feeding bloated rich blizz:

yuhhaur has been generous
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 25 2012, 03:14 PM)
Muahaha, I still keep about 30USD in bnet account (residue of rmah selling) was eager to convert to gold back in 2 weeks ago when the price hit 1.4USD low that time.

Now is 0.7USD per million! gonna wait till 0.25/million (or till I die die die nonstop)...

But then what can be bought with 50mil right now? 1 pc of eq? can't do much...
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50Mil can buy 1 Inna Piece now. :-)
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post Sep 25 2012, 06:06 PM

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oh dear.....why did i sell all my stuff for gold... gold rate is so unbearable to look at now.

then again, rmah aint quite moving either
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post Sep 25 2012, 06:41 PM

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post Sep 25 2012, 06:59 PM

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now still cant play it. when try to log in direct kenal kick -.-
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post Sep 25 2012, 07:29 PM

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Cant wait to try the new patch..
Hopefully the reward is good for high Monster level.

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post Sep 25 2012, 08:58 PM

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still downloading!!!
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 25 2012, 08:58 PM)
still downloading!!!
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Dont worry man...most ppl still cant log in.Hopefully by tomorrow can play.
Really itching to try MP10
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post Sep 26 2012, 03:12 AM

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can anyone get into ptr? i keep getting disconnected, tried numerous 'fixes' nothing works
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post Sep 26 2012, 05:41 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Sep 25 2012, 11:03 PM)
Dont worry man...most ppl still cant log in.Hopefully by tomorrow can play.
Really itching to try MP10
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y cannot use our own hero in 104? need create a hero meh?

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post Sep 26 2012, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Sep 25 2012, 06:59 PM)
now still cant play it. when try to log in direct kenal kick -.-
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post Sep 26 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Sep 25 2012, 12:24 PM)
i wonder how monk will survive this haha
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Looking at it, should be no problem at all.
High LOH/LS could let you survive.
There are so many monsters to hit. More hits more life recovery.


Added on September 26, 2012, 9:27 am
QUOTE(nagflar @ Sep 25 2012, 12:44 PM)
150K dps without SS  DH cant survive . i am 90k dps only lol
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High DPS but low HP and AR.
He could still survive more than 1 min.

So, it doesn't look so bad.
I think both monk and barb should be able to do it.


Added on September 26, 2012, 9:29 am
QUOTE(olman @ Sep 25 2012, 12:44 PM)
how will barb/wiz/monk play with the nerf on them
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Monk has no problem at all.
Barb's tornado, we'll see.
Wiz with high AR should have no problem too.


Added on September 26, 2012, 9:33 amPatch 105 makes co-op game looks interesting again. Gear up! Gear up! nod.gif


Added on September 26, 2012, 9:41 amBarb should be doing fine.
Looking at the video, the WW-Tornado is still working fine.
Monk should do fine too. Likewise other heroes.

Just few arcane without fire/poison/cold. It doesn't seem as tough.




Added on September 26, 2012, 9:54 am
QUOTE(sangtupperware @ Sep 25 2012, 03:06 PM)
we need a complete set of tanker and DPSer roll
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There are many DPSer in public game.
KO after 1-2 hits by normal white mobs (> 150K DPS).
No good.

Tanker, we need Monk and Wiz.
Last I heard, Wiz can still freeze in patch 105.

Crowd control, we need Wiz and Barb.
Barbs WW-Tornado can actually control the crowds.

DPSer (that can do persistent damage without KOing in 1-2 hits), we need Barb and Demon Hunter.

Co-op game seems very interesting.

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post Sep 26 2012, 10:04 AM

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well balanced build will be quite successful in this patch .....just my 2 cents

well u can zerg kill all u want...but in terms of efficiently level..well balanced build might have the upper hand..


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post Sep 26 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 26 2012, 09:26 AM)



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i think that is MP 4 only
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yep thats 4 its shows on the top right
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Sep 26 2012, 10:19 AM)
i think that is MP 4 only
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That I'm not sure. I just saw the clip from another thread.

If you refer to 1st post, LVL10 is not really bad.
DH with 30K HP + low AR, he can still survive for a min.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 26 2012, 09:26 AM)
Crowd control, we need Wiz and Barb.
Barbs WW-Tornado can actually control the crowds.
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while barbs are one of the best cc'ers in the game, bolded = lol

might want to look up the definition of cc
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so RD on elites are gonna be the worse nightmare for DHs ?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 26 2012, 11:38 AM)
while barbs are one of the best cc'ers in the game, bolded = lol

might want to look up the definition of cc
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Range players can just shoot from afar.




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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 26 2012, 11:44 AM)
Range players can just shoot from afar.
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that's not the point. unless your barb has chance to cc (eg: fear, stun, freeze) on weapon, tornados are not CC

the definition of cc's in blizzard games has always been the above examples.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 26 2012, 11:48 AM)
that's not the point. unless your barb has chance to cc (eg: fear, stun, freeze) on weapon, tornados are not CC

the definition of cc's in blizzard games has always been the above examples.
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My definition is, fear is not CC.
For me, crowd control is controlling the crowd.

Don't buy it - agree to disagree. laugh.gif
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Barb's ground stomp = CC???
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 26 2012, 11:55 AM)
Barb's ground stomp = CC???
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Yes, for 4 seconds.
It is not effective in battleground, where you have arcane/fire/poison under your feet.
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Then the only almost-perma CC I could have think of is Frost Nova Wiz.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 26 2012, 12:06 PM)
Then the only almost-perma CC I could have think of is Frost Nova Wiz.
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Skill wise, yes, Wiz has the frozen skill.
Game play wise, Barb's WW and even Monk's Cyclone Strike can control the crowd too.

I tested all these in co-op game. They are all effective.
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just try 1.0.5 PTR - MP10 ( inferno act 3) flex.gif
can tank the elites and the monters......but..... sad.gif
kill a pack of elites need atleast 4 mins..... sweat.gif
the life of elites is too long!!!!!!!!
my dps without ss is 80k dps but still need 4 mins....... blink.gif
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 04:06 PM)
just try 1.0.5 PTR - MP10 ( inferno act 3)  flex.gif
can tank the elites and the monters......but.....  sad.gif
kill a pack of elites need atleast 4 mins.....  sweat.gif
the life of elites is too long!!!!!!!!
my dps without ss is 80k dps but still need 4 mins.......  blink.gif
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So, it means monsters do not have increasing damage. I think that's good news.
solo or co-op?

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 26 2012, 04:13 PM)
So, it means monsters do not have increasing damage. I think that's good news.
solo or co-op?
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Sure solo one.
Like others said, MP3-MP5 is the sweet spot for normal players.
My dps is just 50k, can do MP10 just fine but yawn...so long. yawn.gif

But I found a blue amulet with 80% crit dmg. shocking.gif
I wonder if the max is 80% or 90% or 100%.... hmm.gif

I still dont know how MP will scale in party though, since you cant open or join public game when MP is on, and my friend hasnt finished dload.(for now its for friends only)
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Sep 26 2012, 04:23 PM)
Sure solo one.
Like others said, MP3-MP5 is the sweet spot for normal players.
My dps is just 50k, can do MP10 just fine but yawn...so long. yawn.gif

But I found a blue amulet with 80% crit dmg.  shocking.gif
I wonder if the max is 80% or 90% or 100%.... hmm.gif

I still dont know how MP will scale in party though, since you cant open or join public game when MP is on, and my friend hasnt finished dload.(for now its for friends only)
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wooh... try do the co-op testing and share with us the damage of the monsters.
That's my big concern.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 26 2012, 04:13 PM)
So, it means monsters do not have increasing damage. I think that's good news.
solo or co-op?
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Emm, I think the damage got increase abit because I use many defensive skill, open gloom, cast 10% AR wolf, use generade that reduce 20% monters damage 3 seconds, cast sentry with sheild that reduce damage..
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 04:46 PM)
Emm, I think the damage got increase abit because I use many defensive skill, open gloom, cast 10% AR wolf, use generade that reduce 20% monters damage 3 seconds, cast sentry with sheild that reduce damage..
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Yeap, cowithgun said the same too.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2519103/+40

It's time to gear up again!!
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 26 2012, 04:49 PM)
Yeap, cowithgun said the same too.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2519103/+40

It's time to gear up again!!
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i rest my case on this matter...cuz im broke already..... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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The monsters do increase in dmg each MP lvl, but very little.In party the dmg of monsters dont increase iirc, just health.
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i dont mind how hard is the mp10 . i just want more reward better loot !!!@@
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hi, how to go mp10 ???
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Accually this video only 1 min but dunno why become 2 mins and repeat after upload to YouTube.
I use around 3-4 mins to kill the elites but sharing 1 min video only because the size of video is too big to upload.
If admin feel this sharing thread no suitable here, can close it anytime. Just wan to share the long life of the elites in mp10, tqvm.
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QUOTE(Lau Pan @ Sep 26 2012, 06:41 PM)
hi, how to go mp10 ???
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Go option and game play then check the box of enable monster power.
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Can you test if MP9 monster hit harder than MP10?
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 26 2012, 08:34 PM)
Can you test if MP9 monster hit harder than MP10?
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the video s record in this afternoon, smooth coz green bar.
but now cant test coz red bar and very lag.....dunno is server problem or line problem. mad.gif
how can MP9 harder than MP10?? hmm.gif
but if the patch really come out, i think i will play mp6 -7 becoz cant tahan the long life of monters and elites... rclxub.gif
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will higher mp drop better quality items? or more items? like legendary? or all mp same shit?
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QUOTE(AntheMz @ Sep 26 2012, 11:44 PM)
will higher mp drop better quality items? or more items? like legendary? or all mp same shit?
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many ppl say can get the new ring, but i duno where....
go mp 10 will give u extra 250% MF.... rolleyes.gif


Added on September 27, 2012, 1:53 pmAfter testing MP10, come back 104...Ngati , y so easy one?? Haha

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his damage sucks, 50k crit for a dh? thats super bad. my wd crit also can get around 200-300k.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Sep 27 2012, 08:25 PM)
his damage sucks, 50k crit for a dh? thats super bad. my wd crit also can get around 200-300k.
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rofl.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Sep 27 2012, 08:25 PM)
his damage sucks, 50k crit for a dh? thats super bad. my wd crit also can get around 200-300k.
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Ya, bro. My dps really low if compare to real DH. So I can't kill elites players 10 faster.. Hope ur high dps wizard can farm many legendary or set items in players 10 next patch 105 becoz will boots to MF 600% if u p100. I can't farm in MP10, so I will go MP5 (125% MF) + 5NV (75%) + p13(39%)=239% is enough for me.Thanks ya.
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 28 2012, 07:14 AM)
Ya, bro. My dps really low if compare to real DH. So I can't kill elites players 10 faster.. Hope ur high dps wizard can farm many legendary or set items in players 10 next patch 105 becoz will boots to MF 600% if u p100. I can't farm in MP10, so I will go MP5 (125% MF) + 5NV (75%) + p13(39%)=239% is enough for me.Thanks ya.
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i like your Tank DH! all out DPS is so cliche...
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Sep 28 2012, 11:43 AM)
i like your Tank DH! all out DPS is so cliche...
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Thanks, bro. What is ur battle tag? I add u then farm together.
biatche
post Sep 28 2012, 01:21 PM

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PTR players add me goat003 #6411'

i just cleared my first elite in act 3, took ages with 200k dps wiz. need to consider build now. sigh. dropped crap too.
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post Sep 28 2012, 04:26 PM

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i think mp10 is meant to farm rings since its 100% drop rate from the uber bosses other than that i dont think its viable to farm. previously wiz meteor spec was destroying mp10 thats why got nerfed hardcore lmao

 

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