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 Bursa Traders Thread V1, Coook cooook cooook !

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post Oct 25 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 25 2012, 02:58 PM)
they still have 100 mil+ shares, against 162 mil issued shares. 

working together perhaps? selling to press down the price, so EPF can buy, and they also can buy back later at lower price? brows.gif
Woah!

Didn't know you like to mix such stuff into your trading decisions.
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post Oct 25 2012, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Oct 25 2012, 02:25 PM)
The gap down is because of the dividend of 0.03, then the follow through. Well currently the 50 EMA is at 1.78. 1.73 is indeed the current low closing price. Will see then
Waa!
Today you are free. Off is it?
Waseong tends to disappoint.
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post Oct 25 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 25 2012, 03:39 PM)
lol no i don't. my decision still based on candlesticks....or maybe info from trustworthy sources
*cough* whistling.gif

Still got TH? thumbup.gif
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post Oct 25 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Oct 25 2012, 03:47 PM)
Lol! Short reply can post ma. Usually have to make long reply ma can't post lo.
Hehe!

Now what could I do to force a longggg reply from you?

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post Oct 25 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 25 2012, 03:54 PM)
yeah still got....
Looks like it will should 'settle' more than one month earnings for you, biggrin.gif

Well done.
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post Oct 25 2012, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 25 2012, 03:57 PM)
heh? when did you flame me?  hmm.gif
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Shouldn't have mentioned TH.
Sorry.
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post Oct 25 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 25 2012, 04:06 PM)
UOADEV also moving up
You didn't cut loss at 1.64 the other day? tongue.gif


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post Oct 25 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 25 2012, 04:18 PM)
i thought I said cut loss level break 1.60, or 1.65. depends on individual risk appetite?
Just trying to study how your trade only.
Maybe we can help each other improve.
No other intentions intended.
The other day, you did mention you ran into a problem when you did not cut loss on one of your future trades.
Hence, I am just curious.
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post Oct 25 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 25 2012, 04:34 PM)
well, I mentioned 2 cut loss level. for individual with smaller risk appetite, may take the higher level. those who can take a bigger risk, can opt for lower level. of course those who take smaller risk, probably cut it already, and missed out. after all, high risk, high return, right?  smile.gif

my point was, before you enter any trade, know your risk level.

mine was bigger, because I can take it.  icon_rolleyes.gif

anyway, those who trade need to learn how to set cut loss level. too near to your entry point, and you might become a victim of a shakeout.

in UOADEV, the support can be seen at 1.62, that was the top of the second shoulder, before the breakout. my cut loss was lower than that, because I want to avoid becoming a victim of a shake out. plus if break 1.60, the h&s pattern kinda become invalid already....
I've got slightly different view on shakeout.
Of course, it's dreaded and you look like a dumb ass when you are shaken out of a perfectly good trade.
However, I see shakeout as just part of the cost of doing a trade.
There's no freebie right?
So if a shakeout is too happen, it happens.
That's just the cost of doing business to a trader.

Yeah, cutting losses short is essential.
However, more important also is knowing that one could always be wrong.

ps: I do remember stuff.
This was supposed to be a reverse head and shampoo trade. tongue.gif
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post Oct 26 2012, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Oct 25 2012, 06:36 PM)
Waa, you don't want me to appear more often here is it? tongue.gif

Will post something of similar interest if i see one, for sharing/education purposes eh smile.gif

Like WASEONG, maybe you (Boon) will react when it breaks 50 EMA? While ciahcra may wait confirmation candle (bullish engulfing, elephant candle shared by our chef, etc)?

My oldself may have entered ~1.75, risk 0.04 (Average True Range), TP ~1.9 - 2, since the Reward Ratio more than 1:2.

But trying to learn 'react' to market technique recently and I do agree that setting TP sometimes do limit your profit. smile.gif
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The chart of Waseong is suggestive, I won't deny it.
However, my strategy is slightly different as I place some importance to sectoral performance of a stock.
For me, Waseong, is an Oil and Gas player and I would compare it versus other sector leaders.
Waseong has disappointed often and is no surprise for me why the stock is at where it is.
Recently, its earnings performance has been poor, not only below expectations but the decline in earnings had been sharp.
And to be honest, current stock prices flatters the stock.
But then, yeah, the chart has its suggestive points and maybe there are some who are positioning themselves in expectation of better earnings.
Yes, you could call this as 'anticipating' for a movement.
It's rewards?
Being early. One positioned themselves to be early and could reap 'more' rewards when it starts to move.
The risk? The flipside is one could call Waseong as moving crab way and there's a chance it could continue for a while.
Crab ways frustrates and for some it represents a bad position and there's no guarantee that once it breaks out of the crab movement the stock must go up. It could also go down.




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post Oct 26 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 26 2012, 09:41 AM)
Boon, these few days you ciak beh liao... tongue.gif

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post Oct 27 2012, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 26 2012, 10:23 AM)
wat ? ipad mini ? tongue.gif


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post Oct 27 2012, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 27 2012, 08:53 AM)
So hows your week , heard you make lots of money.. rclxms.gif

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post Oct 29 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 29 2012, 09:48 AM)
anyway, here's L&G chart

what would be your strategy?
Trading option to enter L&G now at 0.445. smile.gif

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post Oct 29 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(andrewL @ Oct 29 2012, 12:46 AM)
hi guys. i'd like to ask your opinion on some good reads on technical analysis. i've read books like 'trend trading for a living', beginers guide to technical and fundamental analysis, tech analysis for dummies.

anything that you guys feel are worth recomending ?
That Trend Trading for a living is already a very decent book, a book which is very much understandable.
You want to stay away from books that are too difficult to understand.
How To Make Money in stocks by William O'Neil is not bad.
That few chapters in Part II should be read many times over.
If you are unsure of a book title, search under Amazon and read the reviews about the book.

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post Oct 29 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 29 2012, 10:22 AM)
may i know what sort of trading plan you got if you were to enter? just curious, and want to learn  icon_rolleyes.gif

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Nothing fancy trading plan.
Just basic cup & handle trading with entry at 0.445 with a CL at 0.43.
Volume is a little bit lacking. wink.gif


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post Oct 29 2012, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 29 2012, 10:34 AM)
anticipating that the breakout is genuine?

CL 0.43? not too close? I'd probably put my CL at 0.42, coz breaking that will make the pattern invalid i guess.....
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Yes, that would be anticipating that the breakout is genuine.
My CL on iffy stocks are generally much tighter.
L&G now looks iffy.
Momentum isn't as strong as expected.
It's kinda lembik and after watching it for half an hour or so, I am not so convinced.
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post Oct 30 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 30 2012, 04:42 PM)
current price very close to my cost price, how about yours?
Nice to see that you are back! smile.gif

Lesson from all this?
Never rush in to buy a falling stock.
You can buy but be patient la.
No need to rush one.

ps: got try to learn some basic chart patterns?
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post Oct 30 2012, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 30 2012, 03:55 PM)
I've been freaking busy no time to see this thread... sweat.gif

I followed mr.boon call, buy l&g @ 0.445. laugh.gif

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Wah!
Like this also can?
Send reverse kick back to me meh?
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post Oct 31 2012, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Oct 30 2012, 05:02 PM)
I can belanja nasi lemak lor, got nasi lemak profit only.... laugh.gif

ps: THHEAVY uplifted from PN17 brows.gif
     
      http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...pn17-group.html
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Nasi lemak meh?
You don't bruff me la. tongue.gif

Saw the TH news.
Some past events for you to consider.
I mentioned this b4 but not sure you are aware but anyway, you would have guessed/known by now that I consider PN17 as being in jail. laugh.gif
This is a lame phrase I picked up online a couple of years ago.
Anyway, when a stock gets of jail, there are 2 events of worthwhile.
1.The unexpected ones. Those that are hardly in the news and when this type of jailbird is released, the eruption of joy is so immense that the stock, which hardly have any significant movement prior to the news, will surge like crazy. Like a jailbird enjoying whoopie after many years.... tongue.gif
2. The other ones? The ones that is known. The ones that are all but waiting for the official date of release. It's a known issue. The press had already been highlighting this imminent event. And the stock is already up in anticipating of this good news and normally, what one gets is a muted response on the official news and the stock quickly retreats after the news. Why? The good news is all but priced in and the next possible catalyst is the company delivering strong earnings performance.

Now if I have to guess, I think we might see a sell on news situation here.
The stock was sleep walking almost all day and then it suddenly woke up around 3pm+.
From 58 sen the stock closed strongly at 61.5sen.
Yeah, someone knew earlier eh? doh.gif
Anyway, I think we could still some buying euphoria early on but strong profit taking could emerge.
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