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 Bursa Traders Thread V1, Coook cooook cooook !

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yhtan
post Sep 27 2012, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 26 2012, 05:16 PM)
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what happened?

@yhtan

Aiya.. when u talk about need to read Annual Report.. it makes me feel like I am not going to do saving already...

gosh.. I will tutup mata tembak... those RM60 stocks..  rclxub.gif
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those RM60 stocks, u have to think carefully before commit into really long term, bought at high price and then plunge 10-20%, dividend alone takes about 7 years to breakeven sweat.gif

Growth is the key, with the company profit keep growing year by year, i'm sure dividend will not decline by time icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 26 2012, 07:28 PM)
yhtan: continue..

One option is to set your quit price higher, in order to preserve your great profits.
You could either assign a price level, for example if Amedia drops below 95 sen, you quit your position immediately and as Amedia moves higher, move this price level higher to say 98 sen or 1.00 etc etc...
Another way is you could use a percentage + price level to determine your quit price. Have your quit price set at 95 sen and include a 'if Amedia drops more than 6% in one single trading session', you call it quits.

And if the quit trigger is not triggered, just ride Amedia for as long as possible... smile.gif
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Sound like a good trading plan thumbup.gif
anyway high risk high return, i always prepare for it tongue.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 27 2012, 09:31 AM)
those RM60 stocks, u have to think carefully before commit into really long term, bought at high price and then plunge 10-20%, dividend alone takes about 7 years to breakeven sweat.gif

Growth is the key, with the company profit keep growing year by year, i'm sure dividend will not decline by time icon_rolleyes.gif
Sound like a good trading plan thumbup.gif
anyway high risk high return, i always prepare for it tongue.gif
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Your Choice and your Plan. thumbup.gif

Just make sure no cursing if plan does not work out .
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post Sep 27 2012, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 27 2012, 09:31 AM)
Sound like a good trading plan thumbup.gif
anyway high risk high return, i always prepare for it tongue.gif
One more thing.

Would you buy Amedia now? At 1.09/1.10? smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 27 2012, 09:33 AM)
Your Choice and your Plan. thumbup.gif

Just make sure no cursing if plan does not work out .
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Nature of human being, point finger at others before think twice yawn.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 27 2012, 09:35 AM)
One more thing.

Would you buy Amedia now? At 1.09/1.10?  smile.gif
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I would let the profit run for the time being, anyway if live broadcasting brought in huge revenue growth, I might average up wink.gif

Did somebody profit from IJM rebound?
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post Sep 27 2012, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 27 2012, 09:39 AM)
Nature of human being, point finger at others before think twice yawn.gif
I would let the profit run for the time being, anyway if live broadcasting brought in huge revenue growth, I might average up wink.gif

Did somebody profit from IJM rebound?
I ask myself that question when my stocks gets too high.
Is like if I cannot see myself buying the stock, why would others?

Did not buy IJM.
What IJM did was situpid. tongue.gif
My raw opinion is Scomi financials are really, really that bad and what IJM did is unforgivable.
It's a clear bailout.
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post Sep 27 2012, 09:50 AM

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Anyone is looking at Ireka ?
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post Sep 27 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 27 2012, 09:50 AM)
Anyone is looking at Ireka ?
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It's featured in today's papers.
Anything new besides what the papers are saying?

I, myself cannot get interested in it because there are too many construction stocks and myself is not keen in construction stocks.
Ireka is not big and probably would be gauge versus the smaller one like Fajarbaru, Gadang, TRC, BinaPuri etc.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 27 2012, 09:45 AM)
I ask myself that question when my stocks gets too high.
Is like if I cannot see myself buying the stock, why would others?

Did not buy IJM.
What IJM did was situpid. tongue.gif
My raw opinion is Scomi financials are really, really that bad and what IJM did is unforgivable.
It's a clear bailout.
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Let's look at the good side, Scomi does has expertise in Railway and Oil and Gas. IJM did that to enhance its civil engineering, maybe in the future has more chances in securing related project.

When u do not have expertise in certain field,
1)Joint venture with others (Profit will be share equally)
2)Hire third party to perform work (Expensive and very hard to master the skill)
3)Internally provide training and course (Costly and result is uncertainty)
4)Buy in a company

No.4 is the best option to tap into the field they intended to venture, fast enough, no need to wait years. Construction sector itself does not provide a sustainable income, that's why they venture Plantation, Property development etc. The chairman intended to grow IJM become Sime Darby v2, a wild wild dream laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 27 2012, 10:05 AM)
Let's look at the good side, Scomi does has expertise in Railway and Oil and Gas. IJM did that to enhance its civil engineering, maybe in the future has more chances in securing related project.

When u do not have expertise in certain field,
1)Joint venture with others (Profit will be share equally)
2)Hire third party to perform work (Expensive and very hard to master the skill)
3)Internally provide training and course (Costly and result is uncertainty)
4)Buy in a company

No.4 is the best option to tap into the field they intended to venture, fast enough, no need to wait years. Construction sector itself does not provide a sustainable income, that's why they venture Plantation, Property development etc. The chairman intended to grow IJM become Sime Darby v2, a wild wild dream laugh.gif
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Do not know why Scomi cannot get any MRT projects in Malaysia since political linked. hmm.gif


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post Sep 27 2012, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 27 2012, 10:05 AM)
Let's look at the good side, Scomi does has expertise in Railway and Oil and Gas. IJM did that to enhance its civil engineering, maybe in the future has more chances in securing related project.

When u do not have expertise in certain field,
1)Joint venture with others (Profit will be share equally)
2)Hire third party to perform work (Expensive and very hard to master the skill)
3)Internally provide training and course (Costly and result is uncertainty)
4)Buy in a company

No.4 is the best option to tap into the field they intended to venture, fast enough, no need to wait years. Construction sector itself does not provide a sustainable income, that's why they venture Plantation, Property development etc. The chairman intended to grow IJM become Sime Darby v2, a wild wild dream laugh.gif
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Scomi's railway expertise is in its subsidiary Scomi Engineering.

I understand but why insist on Railway and Oil and Gas?

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 27 2012, 10:10 AM)
Scomi's railway expertise is in its subsidiary Scomi Engineering.

I understand but why insist on Railway and Oil and Gas?
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Malaysia spends lot of money to bail out ex ex ex PMs yawn.gif

And also some ex Presidents too ( MCA )

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 27 2012, 10:09 AM)
Do not know why Scomi cannot get any MRT  projects in Malaysia since political linked. hmm.gif
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If not wrong Scomi Engineering is involved in the building of the trains itself and does not have the expertise in the infrastructure of a MRT project.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 27 2012, 10:15 AM)
If not wrong Scomi Engineering is involved in the building of the trains itself and does not have the expertise in the infrastructure of a MRT project.
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MMC also another dumb partner mah, but actively getting jobs...

Joint ventures, just put your men in only.
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 27 2012, 10:14 AM)
Malaysia spends lot of money to bail out ex ex ex PMs yawn.gif

And also some ex Presidents too ( MCA )
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Really disappointing.

Come to think about it, I forgot all about KEURO factor.
What does KEURO and Scomi have in common? tongue.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 27 2012, 10:09 AM)
Do not know why Scomi cannot get any MRT  projects in Malaysia since political linked. hmm.gif
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because someone not in power anymore laugh.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 27 2012, 10:10 AM)
Scomi's railway expertise is in its subsidiary Scomi Engineering.

I understand but why insist on Railway and Oil and Gas?
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U control the parent, u can able to control its subsidiary isn't it. Well i don't know why IJM intended to venture these 2 areas, the management should know well
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Sep 27 2012, 10:17 AM)
MMC also another dumb partner mah, but actively getting jobs...

Joint ventures, just put your men in only.
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Sad isn't it?
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post Sep 27 2012, 10:23 AM

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IJM Corp bank balances RM1.8bil
IJM Land bank balances RM680mil
IJM Plantation bank balances RM300mil

so effectively IJM Corp itself only has RM820mil hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 27 2012, 10:20 AM)
because someone not in power anymore laugh.gif
U control the parent, u can able to control its subsidiary isn't it. Well i don't know why IJM intended to venture these 2 areas, the management should know well
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I think Scomi Boss may finally control IJM .

U never hear of reversed take over ?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 27 2012, 10:23 AM)
IJM Corp bank balances RM1.8bil
IJM Land bank balances RM680mil
IJM Plantation bank balances RM300mil

so effectively IJM Corp itself only has RM820mil hmm.gif
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Good. Now read Scomi bank balances. sweat.gif

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