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ham_revilo
post Oct 17 2012, 11:18 AM

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on a separated matter, do you guys think its wise to borrow money to invest?

i always get calls from credit card center asking me if i wanna borrow money with really low interest rate. some 2.7% per annum. real tempting but the first lesson i learn in investing was, never borrow money to invest. so, i always reject those offer smile.gif

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post Oct 17 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 17 2012, 11:19 AM)
Then you should NOT venture into futures trading.
Sorry but this is my honest opinion based on your comments.
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based on which comment or what reason? sorry notworthy.gif



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post Oct 17 2012, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 17 2012, 11:34 AM)
Only speculate with money that you can afford to lose, loaned money is not it.

Only when you have a consistent track record do you start to leverage. But not all can handle the heightened emotions when they start to leverage
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but lets say, i borrow to invest in shares probably medium to long term. do you think its still a good way to do it? anyone here done that before? coz i read books written by real successful traders, alot of them had very bad start and some eventually declared bankrupt. alot of them borrowed too.

i always miss opportunity due to lack of funds. wanna borrow from parents or siblings but feel damn bad. wanna borrow from bank, im worried financially i cannot handle. so in the end i always let these opportunity slip pass.

p.s. sorry for bragging or ranting about this. i just hoping you guys here can share your opinions smile.gif
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post Oct 17 2012, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 17 2012, 08:57 PM)
This is a very general question.
Each stock will have its own selling time and since everyone of us is different, I doubt we will have the same take profit strategy.

One of the best selling suggestions was from the book 'How to make money in stocks' by William O'Neal. There  is one  good chapter, how to sell for a profit.
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to me selling is always the hardest part. when profiting, greed kicks in. when losing, false hope kicks in doh.gif

anyhow, i take profit by chart pattern. some people by PE ratios, a percentage of profits and lots more.

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post Oct 18 2012, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 17 2012, 09:56 PM)
perhaps u need a very strong trading plan..

whenever you enter a trade, you must rmb your Target Profit...

And also if your plan against you.. you must know HOW TO RUN a.k.a Cut Loss...
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 17 2012, 10:14 PM)
I don't like to set TP for my stocks.
TP limits profits.
I like to let my profit run.
When the time is right, a stock can run for a long time, turning itself into a multi-bagger.
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me, i diversify my capital into 2. one long term play, another medium or short (seldom).

long term, i set a target for at least 1 year. let the profit run like boon3 said. but i will monitor it too from time to time as i want my money to be efficient too. profiting the most in the shortest time. if the stocks doesnt run as smooth as expect i will find another one who i think can. with target cut loss too. i set 10% cut loss with min of 20% a year profit.

short to medium term usually i trade according to the counter i been monitoring closely all these while. e.g MBSB, CBIP, PADINI. up to now, only less than 20. very seldom i trade counter that i dont know or i dont monitor from a daily basis. i also look into the fundamental into this counter just to make sure they are financially healthy. and usually this, i dont have a fix TP too. totally by chart pattern. if i see that its peak according to technical chart, then i sell.

im not sure if you guys calculate profit/duration ratio, but i do. just to keep a record, so i always have an objective to break it. my fastest record was CBIP, if not mistaken 20% profit in slightly less than 2 months.

aside that, yes, sometimes emotions kick in, but thanks to my busy day job, this becomes lesser as i dont have time for emotions laugh.gif

p.s. this is solely my strategy of trading and might not suit you. please consult your agent for more info tongue.gif
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post Oct 19 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 19 2012, 12:52 PM)
I was also not using Maxis until lately. I think Axiata share rise lately is a trap. Here is the story. Recently Celcom sent an sms to all subsribers of its broadband services stating that quota will be full enforced by 1 October. Meaning after 1 October, those exceeding the quota will be totally barred from its services. Subscribers all over including yours truly rushed to Celcom to cancelled their existing broadband including yours truly who cancelled two 3 G broadband. By the 10 October , Celcom is forced to retraced its quota enforcing by semding another sms. Voice has been canibalised by data as everyone admitted. Imagine the number of subscribers terminating their 3G broadband, and its difficult to get them back.

To replace both 3G, I tentatively took Maxis which does not enforce quota. Up to now I have exceeded their quota and even though the speed has been throttled down, its still sufficient .

TM I have been using Streamyx for some time and not willing to commit to Unifi as it has contract tenure. Maxis Fiber has better value at the same speed.
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yes, maxis has higher speed with a cheaper price tag but without hypp TV. some people like me really do use their hyppTV service.

maxis coverage is very very limited at the moment. only in high dense area like KL, PJ and i think subang is also covered. if my area have, then sure i sapu mia brows.gif

i use Unifi because of its speed and at the moment no quota.

btw, talking about TM, i think its time to jump off the boat liau. too risky to play. if the approval get approve, i dont know where TM price will go doh.gif

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post Oct 19 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 19 2012, 01:14 PM)
Just for info TM and Maxis using same fiber network. Just that TM purposely delay giving the quota to Maxis. For me I resist signing up for Unifi because two years contract as I was planning for Maxis which is priced lower. Poor people like me must find bargain one.. drool.gif
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yeah, same bandwidth but yet, when i look through maxis website, i found out coverage is limited. but why when i sign up Unifi, they said only 1 year. im poor too, that why i use my unifi to the max, 24 hours download. every month have around 100gb kot. but getting lesser coz dont have idea what to download doh.gif

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post Nov 6 2012, 02:35 PM

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should have short KFLI yesterday. but unfortunately didnt have the balls. called broker liau, but no balls doh.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 6 2012, 02:57 PM)
saw the rebound? lol
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like yesterday?

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post Nov 8 2012, 04:54 PM

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FKLI seems rebounding brows.gif

second attempt at 36.5. my heart tell me long after greece got green light smile.gif





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post Nov 9 2012, 11:18 AM

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still longing FKLI laugh.gif

waiting for it to hit 1640 sad.gif
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post Nov 9 2012, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 9 2012, 04:10 PM)
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

now i know.. tq..

but losing 50% now.....  tongue.gif

what I gain in Futures.. habis in stock market.. FML !  doh.gif
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me, totally opposite. what i gain in stocks, im losing in futures now. im paying my tuition fees to learn futures doh.gif

i paid around RM5k to learn stocks. hopefully i pay lesser to start profiting from futures. LOL

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post Nov 9 2012, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 9 2012, 05:55 PM)
RM5k 1 contract only mah bro.. lol

what indicators u using for FKLI?  hmm.gif
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mix actually. i look at RSI, Mac D, Stochastic, Bollinger Band, Parabolic Stop/Reversal, EMA 7, 14, 21, 30, 60, 90, 120, 200, support, resistance.

and ultimately, fundamental. i play stock using fundamental mostly, then only see where to enter using technical.

i actually, look at chart and try to find a pattern of indicator that it always follow. eg. counter ABC, using MacD and RSI very accurate, then i will solely use those 2 indicator until the pattern breaks. so eventually, every counter have different indicator to trigger buy or sell.

and i kinda learn trend analysis not long ago. still studying that though smile.gif

btw, RM5k i need to work 2 months to get sad.gif

poor guy salary

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post Nov 10 2012, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 9 2012, 06:14 PM)
when i listen the name.. i also feel  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

very holiao like that oh bro  biggrin.gif

wish u good luck !  rclxms.gif
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name nice only but no profit also useless lo tongue.gif
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post Nov 12 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 12 2012, 12:27 PM)
user posted image
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i happy happy until after lunch doh.gif

most asian country is up, but ours down. looks like its not the bottom yet sad.gif



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post Nov 13 2012, 11:29 AM

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market is real bloody and im still on long position doh.gif
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post Nov 14 2012, 12:47 PM

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futures is gapping down real fast. congrat to those who shorted laugh.gif
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post Nov 20 2012, 02:14 PM

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today long market and bought MBSB smile.gif

looks like i need to brush my skill in futures laugh.gif
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post Nov 20 2012, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 20 2012, 02:31 PM)
bro , that time I shout MBSB .. u didnt buy.. u buy now ah? lol

anyway... good pick also !  tongue.gif  waiting it reach Rm2.5 !

FKLI look at these LEVELs...

1631
1624
1616
1608
1601

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lol. my indicator trigger when it hit 2.26. i queue 2.26 but no get. so up to 2.27 and match this morning brows.gif

but my target is only 2.4x. MBSB not easy reach 2.50 in the short term laugh.gif

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post Nov 20 2012, 04:11 PM

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this morning go long futures. now i shiit brick liau doh.gif laugh.gif

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