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 Bursa Traders Thread V1, Coook cooook cooook !

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post Sep 22 2012, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 22 2012, 03:14 PM)
Stocks cannot simply key in one.
We not main tikam here brother.

LOL!
Just kidding only. smile.gif

Do you understand a little chart?

YTL

Current 6 months chart.

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What does the chart suggest to you?
I interpret this as a stock which is rolling down a hill slowly.
I hope my interpretation does not sounds too harsh but I try to call it as it is.

A zoom out one year chart.

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I can understand what you are thinking.
Last month the stock had a decent rebound despite the apparent 'downtrend.'
It hit a low of 1.76 in early Aug and rebounded to 1.93.
Yesterday it closed at 1.74, right at where you purchased the stock.
And by buying at 1.74, you are betting that a similar rebound could happen.
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No worry bro. What you say is really true and I aware of that.
Really cannot run from your eagle eyesight. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Those "call tikam, bet, gambling, hope, hantam,shoot, high risk etc etc" is just comprise of my 20% of portfolio.
So this YTL just partial of this 20% whereas 80% of my portfolio are in fundamental/Reits icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 22 2012, 10:08 PM

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this thread is far more active than the main thread.....
9 pages in 2 days....

let me join in tooo....
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post Sep 23 2012, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 22 2012, 07:58 PM)
Depends EP not willing to chase.

Good deal though sweat.gif

CHEF,
btw KISS stands for keep it simple stupid.. rolleyes.gif
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now i know what it means d ! LOL!
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post Sep 23 2012, 10:10 AM

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I thought GENTING sold his power plant to 1MDB .. so Genting should be having a lot of cash to turn around?

but then how come Genting everyday falling with high volume? is that a shakeout? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 22 2012, 08:53 PM)
Righto, will keep it in mind. Only thing troubling me is that news has come out. So buy on rumours sell on news effect. sweat.gif Same like Ingens when news came out...
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This Sweet Young F's new shareholder is not without controversy.
Last year, he was involved with Navis Capital and a low offer was made for SEGi shares.
That low offer pissed many people off and it caused the shares to tumble. rolleyes.gif
Later the shares soon recovered.

I can understand the skepticism and worry if this is a buy on rumours and sell on news effect.
Which is why, if you insist on playing this one, a buy on breakout is an option to explore.
The higher breakout price would indicate the willingness for them to ................. tongue.gif
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post Sep 23 2012, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 23 2012, 10:10 AM)
I thought GENTING sold his power plant to 1MDB .. so Genting should be having a lot of cash to turn around?

but then how come Genting everyday falling with high volume? is that a shakeout?  hmm.gif

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I think the market was shaken by Genting's decision to dispose its stake in Echo.
It was a surprise and as they say, markets don't like surprises.
More so, the disposal will result in a loss (although a small one) for Genting.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...99&sec=business

Also there are a lot of 'surprise' corporate news involving Genting.
Genting Singapore getting fined and probed by police. doh.gif
Genting planning to spend big money fixing their cruise liners - these cruise liners business had always contributed poorly to the group. Why dump more more into this business? rolleyes.gif
Genting planning a multi billion dollar ski project in .... China! Since when Chinaman likes skiing? rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 23 2012, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 23 2012, 10:10 AM)
I thought GENTING sold his power plant to 1MDB .. so Genting should be having a lot of cash to turn around?

but then how come Genting everyday falling with high volume? is that a shakeout?  hmm.gif

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most of the time genting counter is always high volume. its a gambling counter, some people lazy go up gamble, so they gamble from counter tongue.gif

genting has lost around 23% since Jan 2012. from the chart, i see it could continue to slide. temp support 8.5x and 7.7x strong support. with coming budget this friday, imo investor will continue to add oil to reduce its friction and continue sliding.


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post Sep 23 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 23 2012, 10:34 AM)
I think the market was shaken by Genting's decision to dispose its stake in Echo.
It was a surprise and as they say, markets don't like surprises.
More so, the disposal will result in a loss (although a small one) for Genting.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...99&sec=business

Also there are a lot of 'surprise' corporate news involving Genting.
Genting Singapore getting fined and probed by police.  doh.gif
Genting planning to spend big money fixing their cruise liners - these cruise liners business had always contributed poorly to the group. Why dump more more into this business?  rolleyes.gif
Genting planning a multi billion dollar ski project in .... China! Since when Chinaman likes skiing?  rolleyes.gif
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GHK still holding the shares what.. hmm.gif
But anyway, Genting Singapore sold his shares will affect Malaysia's Genting?

Oh yes, regarding to the Singapore fined is an small little amount for Genting.. the only problem is they have to pay SGD100 for each entrance... this will impact the business.. In Malaysia, there is no such rules because of Malaysia Government love money.. anything can settle under table is not a problem for Genting as they have a big big cash flow to roll under table...

But Singapore strict to the rule.. so this is not a wise decision open casino in Singapore anyway.. hmm.gif and it is not cheap to play.. lol

SKI project might have a good business at first I assume.. because people like "new toilet bowl" ( Translate in Cantonese please lol ) .. so the SKI project will have to see the result first.. hahahahaha

but one thing i don't like Genting.. there is no such thing call dividend in their mind doh.gif
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can we look at construction sector for next week theme play? hmm.gif

I found something interesting..
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QUOTE(john123x @ Sep 22 2012, 04:52 PM)
This thread are redundant with the STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V125
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This page is more like for Technical Analysis ( High risk High Reward Play) while the Stock market discussion are for Dividend and Fundamental Analysis Play tongue.gif
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post Sep 23 2012, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Sep 23 2012, 10:43 AM)
most of the time genting counter is always high volume. its a gambling counter, some people lazy go up gamble, so they gamble from counter tongue.gif

genting has lost around 23% since Jan 2012. from the chart, i see it could continue to slide. temp support 8.5x and 7.7x strong support. with coming budget this friday, imo investor will continue to add oil to reduce its friction and continue sliding.
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1 bet cost RM800 ++ ahhh.. I prefer go up there play roulette... Holiday 1bet RM20 only mah... tongue.gif

QUOTE(edwin32us @ Sep 23 2012, 10:56 AM)
This page is more like for Technical Analysis ( High risk High Reward Play) while the Stock market discussion are for Dividend and Fundamental Analysis Play  tongue.gif
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I LIKEY UR PLAN EDWIN!! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(edwin32us @ Sep 23 2012, 10:56 AM)
This page is more like for Technical Analysis ( High risk High Reward Play) while the Stock market discussion are for Dividend and Fundamental Analysis Play  tongue.gif
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There is no problem discussing Fa here. Hope to keep an open mind and the more being discussed the better we will be informed. Doesnt matter if we go against the grain, as differences in opinion is much welcome.
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Bursa is full of suprises, with manipulators controlling mainstream analyst, up or down is basically their call.

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QUOTE(magika @ Sep 23 2012, 11:13 AM)
There is no problem discussing Fa here. Hope to keep an open mind and the more being discussed the better we will be informed. Doesnt matter if we go against the grain, as differences in opinion is much welcome.
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Bursa is full of suprises, with manipulators controlling mainstream analyst, up or down is basically their call.
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Haha i did not mention that we cant post FA. Just that majority of the post here at TA with Candlestick charts smile.gif while in the Stock market discussion buy call are based on Good Counter based on Dividend Play and FA play biggrin.gif
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post Sep 23 2012, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(edwin32us @ Sep 23 2012, 12:14 PM)
Haha i did not mention that we cant post FA. Just that majority of the post here at TA with Candlestick charts smile.gif while in the  Stock market discussion buy call are based on Good Counter based on Dividend Play and FA play  biggrin.gif
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Guys let be open mind about this and not let unfortunate events happen here.
Let's not be narrow minded. biggrin.gif

Basically traders trade ALL type of stocks.
Be it Genting, Maybank, Panamy, Dutch Lady, F&N and even REITS and so on, when there is an opportunity, traders will trade it.
For these kind of stocks, some understanding of fundamentals will help.

Take a recent stock with strong uptrend momentum. Johore Tin.
Yes, many will call it as an investment stock because the fundamentals is ok and there is strong earnings growth.
However, for some traders, they understand that strong earnings growth is a cataylst.
It's a factor that make others want to buy the stock.
It creates the buying momentum.
Understanding this factor, the trader can profit tremendously by trading on a slightly longer time frame on this stock and easily achieve close to 50% gain or even much more on this stock.

Same with a stock like Amedia.
Understanding why a stock like that would move up strongly helps a lot.

Anyway, just my opinion.
I hope to see FA and TA discuss openly on this thread.
Simply because traders have an open mindset.

Peace la.
Don't spoil a good thing here.

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 23 2012, 10:46 AM)
GHK still holding the shares what..  hmm.gif
But anyway, Genting Singapore sold his shares will affect Malaysia's Genting?

Oh yes, regarding to the Singapore fined is an small little amount for Genting.. the only problem is they have to pay SGD100 for each entrance... this will impact the business.. In Malaysia, there is no such rules because of Malaysia Government love money.. anything can settle under table is not a problem for Genting as they have a big big cash flow to roll under table...

But Singapore strict to the rule.. so this is not a wise decision open casino in Singapore anyway..  hmm.gif and it is not cheap to play.. lol

SKI project might have a good business at first I assume.. because people like "new toilet bowl" ( Translate in Cantonese please lol ) .. so the SKI project will have to see the result first.. hahahahaha

but one thing i don't like Genting.. there is no such thing call dividend in their mind  doh.gif
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I did not fancy Genting's move to open casino in Singapore.
I felt too much money needs to be spend and I could not see justifiable returns.
Yes, during the first few months, business were boom boom good.
Compare now versus the opening few months.
Any difference?

Haha - Talk truthfully, I cannot answer that since I have not been to the casinos in Singapore yet. Malu eh? tongue.gif

Spending big money for questionable projects.

This is how I would sum up Gentings recent years.
This ski project is said to cost 10 BILLION my friend.
10 Billion wo... tongue.gif
Yes new toilet bowl people might generate some excitement initially but I don't how to count this maths.
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BTW some quarters base their Genting buys on multi-year lows. They think if the stock hit those lows, it's a good time to buy...
can such strategy work?

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 23 2012, 12:34 PM)
I did not fancy Genting's move to open casino in Singapore.
I felt too much money needs to be spend and I could not see justifiable returns.
Yes, during the first few months, business were boom boom good.
Compare now versus the opening few months.
Any difference?

Haha - Talk truthfully, I cannot answer that since I have not been to the casinos in Singapore yet. Malu eh? tongue.gif

Spending big money for questionable projects.

This is how I would sum up Gentings recent years.
This ski project is said to cost 10 BILLION my friend.
10 Billion wo... tongue.gif
Yes new toilet bowl people might generate some excitement initially but I don't how to count this maths.
tongue.gif
BTW some quarters base their Genting buys on multi-year lows. They think if the stock hit those lows, it's a good time to buy...
can such strategy work?
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BUY LOW , SELL HIGH = OLD SCHOOL ! BUY HIGH , SELL HIGHER = NEW SCHOOL ! whistling.gif

there is no such rule saying that going down will not go down further... the trend could be affect them delist also what...

just like US that bank.. rclxub.gif

We are trader.. we do not look at long long term.. 3-4years are super long for me.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 23 2012, 02:13 PM)
BUY LOW , SELL HIGH = OLD SCHOOL ! BUY HIGH , SELL HIGHER = NEW SCHOOL !  whistling.gif

there is no such rule saying that going down will not go down further... the trend could be affect them delist also what...

just like US that bank..  rclxub.gif

We are trader.. we do not look at long long term.. 3-4years are super long for me..  tongue.gif
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The trend cycle is getting shorter and shorter. Just refer to the semiconductors industries were about 8 years cycle during 1980s, 4 years in 1990s and 2000s. Now is 2010, it has shortened to 2 years. So it is better to play safe within 2 weeks to 2 months holding because we won't know what will happen next . Maybe next it could be Asia crisis like Europe is having now haha.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 23 2012, 12:34 PM)
I did not fancy Genting's move to open casino in Singapore.
I felt too much money needs to be spend and I could not see justifiable returns.
Yes, during the first few months, business were boom boom good.
Compare now versus the opening few months.
Any difference?

Haha - Talk truthfully, I cannot answer that since I have not been to the casinos in Singapore yet. Malu eh? tongue.gif

Spending big money for questionable projects.

This is how I would sum up Gentings recent years.
This ski project is said to cost 10 BILLION my friend.
10 Billion wo... tongue.gif
Yes new toilet bowl people might generate some excitement initially but I don't how to count this maths.
tongue.gif
BTW some quarters base their Genting buys on multi-year lows. They think if the stock hit those lows, it's a good time to buy...
can such strategy work?
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Raya time I got go singapore casino.need Q 30 minutes only can go in coz too many people waiting for their passport to be check by the staff.
Overall their service is far better than the genting Malaysia.But whether they earn money or not,I donno.
All I can say is I did contribute a little to their profit tongue.gif tongue.gif
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gamuda breakout?
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 23 2012, 02:13 PM)
BUY LOW , SELL HIGH = OLD SCHOOL ! BUY HIGH , SELL HIGHER = NEW SCHOOL !  whistling.gif

there is no such rule saying that going down will not go down further... the trend could be affect them delist also what...
Wah! old new school pula! sweat.gif
Only school I know is Sekolah Menang-la SunTzu. tongue.gif

stocks sinking fast. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 24 2012, 09:10 AM)
gamuda breakout?
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