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 Bursa Traders Thread V1, Coook cooook cooook !

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SKY 1809
post Oct 1 2012, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 1 2012, 10:25 AM)

i also feel i m quite long gas.. walao.. u r writting 5000words report to me ah? LOL!

Your kelapa la. Mana ada 5000 words? Report Big Sum ah?
Good things never short.
LOL! tongue.gif

anyway.. why do u want to look at 5years chart when u r trading only short term ?

speculators should look at shorter period right?  hmm.gif

Yes and No. tongue.gif
Speculators of course look at the shorter period.
That is correct but for Ann Joo, you need to understand what is driving the stock.
The stock is in the steel sector and steel sector business is not good until boom boom sound.
Some losing big money too.
Therefor, in my understanding the stock is driven by the long term outlook.
What does the long term outlook of the stock says?
What does the long term chart says of the stock?
If the long term chart is so bearish, whatever short term movements of the stock is not going to change much.
Not until the long term chart reverses.
Basically, you are betting against the main trend.
Shit, out of topic and I am not going to delete the above.
The 5 year chart posted has a strong meaning.
Look at any of the charts now. The 6 month, the one year, the 2 year. What are they saying?
They are saying Ann Joo is clearly rolling down hill.
Where to?
The 5 year chart shows the possibility of where to.

The reason i posted out the chart... and also.. the reason i posted plan.. i m too good imagination for the right side for the chart.. i learnt this.. without sure confirmation.. we should not enter on it.. at least have to touch 2sens higher of my Entry price.. i cannot wait for the fish come to me.. my patient is not enough on fishing.. this is what I learnt...
Everyone bets on the right side of the chart leh.
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For that 6 months chart in May of Ann Joo, you are betting ahead of an event.
You bet because you assumed a 2 kali bottom might happen.
Note this is a common trading strategy.
Remember someone posting about YTL Corp the other week?
He was betting that a 2 kali bottom could happen.
It's a justifiable bet and sometimes it will be rewarding.
The alternative is to bet when it happens.
This is the sort of kiasu method.
Look at the Ann Joo chart pattern again.
If the dua kali bottom would happen, what's the possible max result of such a trade?
Maybe a 1.92? Maybe more.
So if you enter at say 1.76, AFTER the confirmation, you could set your CL at 1.73 and still have a rewarding betting scenario.
If you goog about this, you can find debates on being early (your style here) versus being late (betting only after confirmation).
Lot's of pros and cons mentioned.

Waiting is a very important factor.
If you cannot wait, better don't play.
You wait to buy and you will wait to sell.
If you short cut this, you will short cut your profits.

Alamak! Let go so many words liao.
Someone will complain again. tongue.gif
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U are right, hard to survive on pure TA standalone nowaday.

Somehow, need to know some FA to keep up p with basic survival.

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 1 2012, 10:41 AM)
If you want to survive and play this game long term, you need to develop an edge. wink.gif
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TA, FA, SA and east wind. blush.gif

Scomi got east wind .

W is 100% up.

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 1 2012, 10:47 AM)
notworthy.gif  although is long.. but I appreciate it very very much !

sigh.. i m slowly giving up on stock market already.. changing to FKLI.. need a lot of patients in waiting up and down..

I will follow the breakout strategy.. wait for the momentum.. go in shoot 1 2 rounds and go out.. but have to target certain price stocks only...

as I am still learning.. so I will post more charts.. and talk male chicken more... ask from the view that I feel uncertain..

@Sky gor,

How's ur view on FKLI today? bull or bear?  hmm.gif
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Future is quite risky after the budget hmm.gif

No more news flows temp yawn.gif

Whenever I post, see flood control message rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 1 2012, 10:57 AM)
A breakout is included in a technical correction.
Correct ah?  sweat.gif
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Scomi is a breakout, right hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 1 2012, 11:03 AM)
I long and earn 2points today with 5mins chart.. lol...

yes you are right ! will learn and apply it on the right way..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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so u r trading it based on news?
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Why not, somehow funds needed to support Jib Gor budget last week hmm.gif
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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 1 2012, 11:01 AM)
Not sure  hmm.gif

So must hedge bets before news come out. Eg before budget buy after budget sell..

SYF on the wane..
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This co made very good profit this year. hmm.gif

Need to find out more.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 1 2012, 11:15 AM)
I saw.
The problem is this stock went nuts.
Right now, it is best to let the market settle and consolidate the news of the new shareholder.
And looking at the chart, I feel many are now caught holding the stock at much higher prices.
These holders will form a stale bull within the stock.
It's best to let these stale bulls clear their positions.
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u are right , majority are traders in SYF.

But TA and FA combined would beat them laugh.gif


Added on October 1, 2012, 11:21 am
QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 1 2012, 11:19 AM)
hmm.gif

FKLI 5mins chart broke 1635 resistance...
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Currently supported by Sin stocks, no further taxes.

If not CI could fall further.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Oct 1 2012, 11:28 AM)
CPO price keep sliding hmm.gif
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Ang Mo says golden ( super ) cycle for commodities is over hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 1 2012, 11:47 AM)
I would also respect what these ang moh say for now.
No point being a hero now.
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I read about the news about a month ago, since then it is down trend.

Up a bit after QE 3, now back to down trend again. yawn.gif

No point to challenge what she said for now.

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 1 2012, 12:20 PM)
Saw an ascending triangle in FKLI but tot nah... can't happen...  shocking.gif
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Petgas kena pushed up drool.gif

and Tasek hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 1 2012, 12:30 PM)
congratulation on those who long the market ! huat ah !
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Now u are the Future expert liao notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(edwin32us @ Oct 1 2012, 02:13 PM)
Some dealer are putting analysis on Scomi that is worth 49 cents

Scomi-wa - went up by 28%.. more scarier than futures
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I do not know why TA people did not give a buy call when it was about 4sen last week hmm.gif

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QUOTE(edwin32us @ Oct 1 2012, 02:15 PM)
Bought abit at 0.075 on Scomi-Wa..

Queue to Sell at 0.095 smile.gif Wish me luck


Added on October 1, 2012, 2:17 pm

There was a buy call on the mother share but for warrant , normally TA wont put on it cause it normally follows the mother price..
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Congratulation.

Mother price , hard to move by 5sen, but W moves more than 100% .

Afterall , at 4sen, buying risk is not that high for short term trading.
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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 1 2012, 04:32 PM)
oops forgot lah... doh.gif  buy high sell higher... notworthy.gif
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JCY might be a good catch since a report says current good demands for HDD would slow down in Year 2014 hmm.gif


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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 3 2012, 08:49 AM)
Medufsaid: I hope I am not discouraging others about my comments. It's just personal opinion that I am a believer that one should only concentrate on doing what what they know best.

Do you trade FCPO yourself?
Any comment to share. smile.gif
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Agreed. notworthy.gif

Telcos are better than Plant.

My chicken little thinking yawn.gif

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 3 2012, 09:08 AM)
You were not here yesterday. Went little chicken hunting is it? tongue.gif
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Ya, hiding in my chicken little bunker yawn.gif

Green Tone is not bad. hmm.gif

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Telcos damn hot


Added on October 3, 2012, 11:05 amSC should know better what is concerted efforts in law means.

Plenty of those evidences in Sime case.

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Panic sells in plantation stocks ?
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REdtone ?
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Looks like Funds are re locating their assets from Plantations to Telcos.



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