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SKIP & KIDEX, Any update?
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Sep 20 2012, 01:21 PM, updated 14y ago
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Hi guys does anyone has update on SKIP and KIDEX. It should have started last year end... Anyone has inside news?
http://www.starproperty.my/PropertyScene/T...htBox/14491/0/0 SKIP ![]() KIDEX ![]() This post has been edited by greativity: Sep 20 2012, 01:24 PM |
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QUOTE(greativity @ Sep 20 2012, 01:21 PM) Hi guys does anyone has update on SKIP and KIDEX. It should have started last year end... Anyone has inside news? I was waiting for the updates as well, but none forthcoming http://www.starproperty.my/PropertyScene/T...htBox/14491/0/0 SKIP ![]() KIDEX ![]() Not much news, esp KIDEX. |
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QUOTE(-TcT- @ Sep 20 2012, 03:03 PM) Building more highway? and more tol? and more petrol subsidy? and sell more car? more polluted city? more productive time wasted @ traffic jam?Wow..... other country focus on building more public transport like train, bycycle lane and etc...... but malaysia..... haizzzz. SAID NO TO MORE HIGHWAY! This post has been edited by tikaram: Sep 20 2012, 04:02 PM |
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UMNO cronnie project..
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Hope can bring up development to props along the hway..
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if PR win, these two project might going to dump already.
Since PR promote toll free |
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the completion i heard in year 2016?
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Sep 21 2012, 10:09 AM) with the mrt, the bandar malaysia, the road construction, razak exchange & the many new housing launch. as expected, Even i also now facing hard time to secure a Soil Investigation specialist and Independent Lab Test for my Lands study, coz all occupied and busy with MRT. Look like construction materials going to have demand more than supply soon. Added on September 21, 2012, 10:14 am QUOTE(greativity @ Sep 21 2012, 10:06 AM) I still remember the Leisure mall, Phoenix and lenseng flyovers took years and years to complete.This post has been edited by peri peri: Sep 21 2012, 10:14 AM |
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QUOTE(KOHTT @ Sep 21 2012, 10:16 AM) Imagination VS Execution is 2 different things. He can talks what he want but he is not the one who constructing. We are more consent for the set time line, cost overrun and user friendly. doing business as selling maps now coming out as spokesman? |
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more information can be found on:
http://hssmalaysia.com/all-projects/propos...xpressway-kidex http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/246219 This post has been edited by yoonlim: Sep 23 2012, 02:27 AM |
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QUOTE(yoonlim @ Sep 23 2012, 01:56 AM) more information can be found on: thanks for sharing...http://hssmalaysia.com/all-projects/propos...xpressway-kidex http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/246219 I found some interesting stuff... SKIP is listed in link below however i dont find KIDEX... does this mean SKIP is a confirmed project and KIDEX is not? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Expre...ays_in_Malaysia |
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As someone shared in above, KIDEX already been presented by Mr. Ho http://www.zeva.com.my/downloads/120507-TheEdge.pdf
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QUOTE(ecin @ Sep 24 2012, 05:27 PM) As someone shared in above, KIDEX already been presented by Mr. Ho http://www.zeva.com.my/downloads/120507-TheEdge.pdf i heard mr ho's intention is just to gv public awareness of the existence of KIDEX as well as pressure the government to make it happen... if u do a bit if google-ing you may find some controversial awarding of KIDEX project... |
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QUOTE(greativity @ Sep 24 2012, 05:52 PM) i heard mr ho's intention is just to gv public awareness of the existence of KIDEX as well as pressure the government to make it happen... if u do a bit if google-ing you may find some controversial awarding of KIDEX project... o.. i see, whatever new highway with cheaper toll fee and shorter contract is good news .. |
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Sep 20 2012, 04:01 PM) Building more highway? and more tol? and more petrol subsidy? and sell more car? more polluted city? more productive time wasted @ traffic jam? Public transport shall be used at high population density area like kl city centre and pj but highway is important for outer link city ie the city which is a bit far away from city centre. Ppl in the city shall walk and use public transport and ppl a bit far away from city use car, then the traffic jam problem will be resolved.Wow..... other country focus on building more public transport like train, bycycle lane and etc...... but malaysia..... haizzzz. SAID NO TO MORE HIGHWAY! This post has been edited by SKfolk: Sep 24 2012, 07:38 PM |
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QUOTE(SKfolk @ Sep 24 2012, 08:37 PM) Public transport shall be used at high population density area like kl city centre and pj but highway is important for outer link city ie the city which is a bit far away from city centre. Ppl in the city shall walk and use public transport and ppl a bit far away from city use car, then the traffic jam problem will be resolved. " ppl a bit far away from city use car "I don't agree with your above statement. Why? Many rich europe use feeder bus ( public transport) to link up/ compliment train/lrt station for high density far away from city. Public transport is a long term solution and not nuilding more road. Reasons of building more highway like other forumer said . is just to make "well connect" party richer be it "construction related activities company" or "toll collector company" This post has been edited by tikaram: Sep 25 2012, 09:44 AM |
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Soooo what's the status on KIDEX now? At least DASH I heard prolintas secured the concession...
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QUOTE(slickz @ Sep 8 2013, 08:19 PM) Soooo what's the status on KIDEX now? At least DASH I heard prolintas secured the concession... KIDEX become Kotex , SKIP really skip oledi. Sighhttp://www.btimes.com.my/articles/20130625232301/Article/ |
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Dun worry, this highway will be built.
It is just a matter who secure the highway concession. This highway is much more complicated than LATAR & DASH, it needs to cut through the centre of PJ to reach Tropicana, land acquisition issue involved. Feasible study has been carried out 2 yrs ago |
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Hope they will drop the building more highway mindset. It is so yesterday already. Not sustainable in long run be it for environment/ fuel sudsidy.
More poeple boycott highway. Should just built mass MRT and improve Bus services that using clean energy. This post has been edited by tikaram: Sep 9 2013, 09:21 AM |
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Sep 9 2013, 09:20 AM) Hope they will drop the building more highway mindset. It is so yesterday already. Not sustainable in long run be it for environment/ fuel sudsidy. Be realistic, this is Malaysia, not Hong Kong or Singapore, this country has been kidnapped by the ruling party for the last 56 yrs, political business has been widely cultivated during Mahathir time, all I can say is : dun expect too much fr this gomenMore poeple boycott highway. Should just built mass MRT and improve Bus services that using clean energy. |
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sighh same old shit.....
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Sep 9 2013, 09:16 AM) Dun worry, this highway will be built. Latest 16/9/2013It is just a matter who secure the highway concession. This highway is much more complicated than LATAR & DASH, it needs to cut through the centre of PJ to reach Tropicana, land acquisition issue involved. Feasible study has been carried out 2 yrs ago |
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Sep 15 2013, 02:32 AM) Once SKIP is connected, LDP jam will reduce half, of course it will jam still.I foresee current LDP jam will be double as only 50% of southern Puchong is developed / occupied. In future both highway will be jam like hell, the best solution is build elevated highway for both highways, but it is not very possible This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Sep 15 2013, 10:05 AM |
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The construction of KiDEx will take how many months?
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seriously? 18 years? mayb my future offspring can see it
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THat is the timeframe. KIDEX itself is complicated and the corporate arrangement is complicated too.
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QUOTE(liam_emmet @ Sep 15 2013, 04:32 PM) It cut through the heart of PJ city, very complicated land acquisition issueNo matter how, highway concession is guaranteed profit, who dun want to do? This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Sep 15 2013, 04:40 PM |
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The last update for Skip completion is 2016 but no news for KIDEX
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another move which will surge bukit jalil value further up
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QUOTE(jonathandeho @ Sep 19 2013, 01:59 PM) 3784 plots of land!!! |
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Those locations around Bandar Kinrara will benefit d most
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 19 2013, 07:07 PM) The effect will not be so obvious as KIDEX will only complete by 2028 (If) or longerIdeally Gomen shd improve the bus services instead if building more highways, but under the UMNO linked political business module, public transport system will not be improved. Build more roads is the best way that we can do to ease traffic jam. Indeed I am quite satisfy with the current traffic in KV now, the jam that we face now cannot compare to those happened in 1994-2000, jalan Gebting Klang, Federal Highway, Subang, Cheras etc are real nightmare. Current jam in LDP is only 30% of those days |
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Good that everywhere have more infrastructure that ease the traffic. Hope government put more effort in improving the infrastructure. If they are efficient enough and pay back to society (u know what I mean), we will be in our current condition 10 years ago. So hopefully more development in pipeline
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Sep 19 2013, 08:53 PM) The effect will not be so obvious as KIDEX will only complete by 2028 (If) or longer eh.. 2028 only complete? 15 more yearsIdeally Gomen shd improve the bus services instead if building more highways, but under the UMNO linked political business module, public transport system will not be improved. Build more roads is the best way that we can do to ease traffic jam. Indeed I am quite satisfy with the current traffic in KV now, the jam that we face now cannot compare to those happened in 1994-2000, jalan Gebting Klang, Federal Highway, Subang, Cheras etc are real nightmare. Current jam in LDP is only 30% of those days |
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Both highway will definitely reduce congestion in LDP; by diverting southbound traffics. Shops along LDP (puchong jaya, puteri, puchong utama) will lose some business due to this diversion.
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Sep 20 2013, 01:37 PM) Both highway will definitely reduce congestion in LDP; by diverting southbound traffics. Shops along LDP (puchong jaya, puteri, puchong utama) will lose some business due to this diversion. Indeed it will. But at the same time, if the property price there is affordable more ppl wil stay around the area which mean more customer. Which is more genuine traffic flow too. So it should become healthy market again... need time la anyway haha |
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QUOTE(jonathandeho @ Sep 20 2013, 01:47 PM) Indeed it will. But at the same time, if the property price there is affordable more ppl wil stay around the area which mean more customer. Which is more genuine traffic flow too. So it should become healthy market again... need time la anyway haha good news: cut down my travel time to work. bad news: have to pay 2 tolls. currently paying LDP Sunway toll. |
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15 years for completing 13km. What is efficiency of this investment? after 15years when project are just completed, some components constructed at beginning need to be changed already. Both economic and construction reality factors for 13km-15year highway project are worse.
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QUOTE(Maximo1 @ Sep 20 2013, 02:20 PM) 15 years for completing 13km. What is efficiency of this investment? after 15years when project are just completed, some components constructed at beginning need to be changed already. Both economic and construction reality factors for 13km-15year highway project are worse. Shd engage China firm to construct it, I think they can finish it in less than 4 yrs |
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Any idea wat is the indicative toll rate?
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QUOTE(Maximo1 @ Sep 20 2013, 02:20 PM) 15 years for completing 13km. What is efficiency of this investment? after 15years when project are just completed, some components constructed at beginning need to be changed already. Both economic and construction reality factors for 13km-15year highway project are worse. oh gosh, almost 1KM per year.is too long man, incur alot cost.... |
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2 lanes each way would not be enough and congested at current volume!! make it 3 lanes
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Residents in PJ area complaints highway pass thru housing area |
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Visit http://www.kidexskyway.com/ for more information.
KIDEX is expected to be completed and fully operational in the year 2018. Good news to Puchong and Damansara residents. This post has been edited by yoonlim: Mar 14 2014, 12:53 PM |
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What about SKIP? Supposed to start construction 2012, but till now not even construction dust seen.
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QUOTE(yoonlim @ Mar 14 2014, 12:53 PM) Visit http://www.kidexskyway.com/ for more information. Shd be 2028KIDEX is expected to be completed and fully operational in the year 2018. Good news to Puchong and Damansara residents. |
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QUOTE(rambo8 @ Mar 14 2014, 03:51 PM) It will be like SS2/Bangsar (hopefully)..Residential will convert to commercial coz its too expensiver to stay & open gate is road. Those facing the main road have a great chance for commercial as many houses is running mechanic/restourant business .. Again depends on which Jalan & route in PJ Old Town.. I am staying at nearby Jalan Penchala.. |
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 15 2014, 08:00 AM) It is stated in the web site saying 2018.http://www.kidexskyway.com/faqs/ |
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QUOTE(yoonlim @ Mar 15 2014, 05:49 PM) You believe? |
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Apr 16 2014, 08:09 AM
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Hi. Any updates on KIDEX? I heard there are some objections from a grp of people.
Btw, do you guys things it this highway beneficial and effective to reduce the current traffic IGNORING the toll charges factor? |
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high cost project...elevated & only one way...waste a lot of money...
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QUOTE(tsteik @ Apr 16 2014, 08:09 AM) Hi. Any updates on KIDEX? I heard there are some objections from a grp of people. cut short travel time;Btw, do you guys things it this highway beneficial and effective to reduce the current traffic IGNORING the toll charges factor? reduce congestion; reduce carbon footprint; save earth; good project; |
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QUOTE(tsteik @ Apr 16 2014, 08:09 AM) Hi. Any updates on KIDEX? I heard there are some objections from a grp of people. it's beneficial and will reduce traffic in the short term... but will get congested in the long term... all highways will end up tat way...Btw, do you guys things it this highway beneficial and effective to reduce the current traffic IGNORING the toll charges factor? |
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Very bad selangor govt u turn approved this project.
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Apr 16 2014, 03:18 PM
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how abouot SKIP?
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May 2 2014, 08:34 PM
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Lets give support for Kidex, at least have another alternative road.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kidex/206320256244324 |
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QUOTE(blasto @ Mar 15 2014, 03:04 PM) It will be like SS2/Bangsar (hopefully)..Residential will convert to commercial coz its too expensiver to stay & open gate is road. Those facing the main road have a great chance for commercial as many houses is running mechanic/restourant business .. Again depends on which Jalan & route in PJ Old Town.. I am staying at nearby Jalan Penchala.. My guess is that it will pass by ss2 mall. So the properties impacted would be ameera, five stones, jasmine tower and probably ken 2 |
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QUOTE(Maneki-neko @ May 2 2014, 10:32 PM) Yeah, but offset by the amount of carbon released during construction of the highway, plus not to mention it is merely redirecting cars via a different route.I buy the shorten travel time, but that translating to overall reduction of carbon footprint is kinda bull. This post has been edited by jackhammer84: May 2 2014, 11:00 PM |
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QUOTE(jackhammer84 @ May 2 2014, 10:39 PM) Yeah, but offset by the amount of carbon released during construction of the highway risked, plus not to mention it is merely redirecting cars via a different route. Reduce travel time...make sure no congestion at exit points. Otherwise waste time saja. Smart tunnel is classic case.....jam at times square traffic lightsI buy the shorten travel time, but that translating to overall reduction of carbon footprint is kinda bull. |
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Even my investment will benefits if skip n kidex.
i stilk say no to it. only support mass trabsportation like train which is much sustainable and improve city living standard. |
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QUOTE(jackhammer84 @ May 2 2014, 10:39 PM) Yeah, but offset by the amount of carbon released during construction of the highway risked, plus not to mention it is merely redirecting cars via a different route. That's why the MRT and the Hybrid cars are there to offset whatever that is hurting the earth I buy the shorten travel time, but that translating to overall reduction of carbon footprint is kinda bull. |
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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 2 2014, 10:48 PM) Even my investment will benefits if skip n kidex. Agree! Look at the European history in how the train system changed / evolved the lives there… i stilk say no to it. only support mass trabsportation like train which is much sustainable and improve city living standard. |
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May 2 2014, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(Maneki-neko @ May 2 2014, 10:48 PM) Yup agreed. You can only possibly reduce carbon footprint by having efficient public transportation systems like MRT/LRT or reducing the number of cars on the road. Building another highway won't reduce carbon footprint because you're merely giving more roads and avenues for cars to travel. If KIDEX claims to reduce carbon footprint, it's just pure marketing bull. And those hanging gardens they're proposing isn't a solution. This post has been edited by jackhammer84: May 2 2014, 10:59 PM |
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Well, what to do? This is KL, the capital city. Every capital city in the world is facing the same issue
QUOTE(jackhammer84 @ May 2 2014, 10:57 PM) Yup agreed. You can only possibly reduce carbon footprint by having efficient public transportation systems like MRT/LRT or reduce the number or cars on the road. Building another highway won't reduce carbon footprint because you're merely giving more roads and avenues for cars to travel. If KIDEX claims to reduce carbon footprint, it's just pure marketing bull. And those hanging gardens they're proposing isn't a solution. |
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QUOTE(Maneki-neko @ May 2 2014, 11:02 PM) Well, what to do? This is KL, the capital city. Every capital city in the world is facing the same issue Yup that's right. Result of rapid urbanization. But every city is tackling the problem differently. Some are tackling it better with better planning. Some aren't. |
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Guys, any latest update on this project? Go or no go job? Seems like some digging started already.
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May 20 2014, 11:01 PM
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Lets get on with it.
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http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1052451
SHAH ALAM: The controversial Kinrara Damansara Expressway (Kidex) can be called off if the federal government no longer thinks it is feasible to build after realignment. Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim said the state government agreed to Kidex in principle, but it can push for realignment according to public demand. “Let’s say we adjust the alignment, and then the federal government or the Malaysian Highway Authority (MHA) says it is not feasible; then the state may say ‘you don’t need to build it’; if they think it is feasible then they can build it. “So the state government has the right to issue a planning approval,” he told reporters after chairing the state executive council meeting today. Kidex is facing stiff opposition from the residents of Petaling Jaya who contend that noise and environmental pollution, and devaluation of private property are issues that will arise. Khalid said the state government has to be professional about the matter as well and not reject Kidex merely because it is a project by the federal government. He said the federal government would have already considered the impact of the highway on people in Selangor before proposing it. “It would be unprofessional to say ‘no’ just because it is a federal project; if we reject all federal proposals then it would be unfair to the people of Selangor as well,” Khalid said. He said traffic congestion is a major issue in the Klang Valley and any federal proposition that could alleviate the problem would be welcomed. Khalid said that even though the state government can push for realignment, it would not be able to please everyone although it will benefit the majority. “People are generally happy when there are developments that could help in transportation such as building roads of the MRT, as long as it is not in front of their house,” he said. He added that Kidex also extends into Subang Jaya and Puchong, where the Subang Jaya Municipal Council has been organising town hall meetings for the people regarding the highway. theSun today reported that Khalid had said it would be impossible to cancel Kidex as it was a federal project; the Mentri Besar never said the words quoted and theSun regrets the mistake. This post has been edited by sonotme: May 21 2014, 09:53 PM |
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Brainy, that works is jalan harapan connection to sprint, not kidex.
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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ May 2 2014, 10:44 PM) Reduce travel time...make sure no congestion at exit points. Otherwise waste time saja. Smart tunnel is classic case.....jam at times square traffic lights It will attract more cars and more houses to be built. Hence back to square one. Highways are no longer a solution. |
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Does the latest news about Capitamalls buying Tropicana City Mall indicate anything about Kidex being built?
My layman understanding is malls like to have highways nearby so more shoppers can visit. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...r-rm540-million http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...sets/?style=biz |
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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Jan 29 2015, 04:40 PM) Does the latest news about Capitamalls buying Tropicana City Mall indicate anything about Kidex being built? If ended up like PJ commerce square after LDP built ...then My layman understanding is malls like to have highways nearby so more shoppers can visit. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...r-rm540-million http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...sets/?style=biz |
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Won't build, no ugly flyover around PJ and wont help for traffic also.
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the highway will pass through SK Sri Petaling, where is this school?
Is it in ss2? |
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Jan 29 2015, 06:43 PM
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Jan 29 2015, 07:00 PM
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Is it a coincidence that all the highway projects in Selangor are not seeing the end of the light at the moment? Even DUKE 2 is built entirely inside KL.
Come on, we need more highways. Our current highway network cannot cope with the ever increasing traffic! |
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Jan 29 2015, 08:23 PM
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A study shows that KIDEX is not very beneficial
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...nts-study-finds |
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We really need KiDEX but unfortunately many beneficial pojeks hijacked by certain groups for their own political interest...look at some English papers only published very one sided story anti KIDEX but now after realizing it could be cancelled, they started to publish pro kidex views...me one of many suffering LDP motorist everyday only one road from Puchong to Damansara...how on earth we goong to progress when few people protest and the local papers highlighted their plight almost everyday while censoring all those motorist supporting the highway?? Its sad but true
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We need the route to be well designed to be agreeable to majority. Cannot see majority PJ citizens accept it.
Same apply to other proposals like DASH. |
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personally have 1 house in pj another coming hse near by bukit jalil
kidex maybe good for my new hse but bad for pj 1...paradox... but agree, public transport is the way to go. This post has been edited by frequency: Jan 30 2015, 09:28 AM |
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Only those poperties affected opposed KIDEX, majority sapot but their vocies not heard becoz the local papers want to be seen as champions of the rakyat...and how can we improve or use public transport when all the roads jam?? No new highway to go
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QUOTE(brother love @ Jan 30 2015, 11:40 PM) Only those poperties affected opposed KIDEX, majority sapot but their vocies not heard becoz the local papers want to be seen as champions of the rakyat...and how can we improve or use public transport when all the roads jam?? No new highway to go no one stop you riding motorbike from puchong to damansara.but once skip n kidex construct. environment disaster for the local there. we are talking few generations effected. |
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some of the PJ area , ss2 and ss17 is very old, road very small, no proper plan, many houses are abandoned, is time to rebuild the area, also, more and more pj ppl going to moving out to kajang and setia alam..
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for mostly Chinese ppl, do you think they are really would like to take lrt, mrt or bus public transport when they working?
they bought a over 100k car or even can change it every 5 year, you tell me they are going to take public transport? don't fool man, those chinese just think about "all other ppl take public transport except me, so i can drive my car without traffic jam all the way" "i'll not take public transport with bangla...etc " chinese blame that why bangla(plus foreign worker) become 4th or even 3rd population in malaysia. so who bring those bangla to malaysia. yeah you're right. mostly chinese . another major issue is public security. for a malaysian, "everybody can drive" is a priority dream in their life. malaysian especially chinese very kia shu punya, own a car is very important. yeah, chinese ppl are very selfish. how ever , i'm a chinese too. |
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QUOTE(llika @ Jan 31 2015, 02:04 AM) for mostly Chinese ppl, do you think they are really would like to take lrt, mrt or bus public transport when they working? I am chinese and I have been waiting for the MRT at my area to start operating so I can take public transport to work. I dream one day Klang Valley will be like London Underground...yes dream. Lolthey bought a over 100k car or even can change it every 5 year, you tell me they are going to take public transport? don't fool man, those chinese just think about "all other ppl take public transport except me, so i can drive my car without traffic jam all the way" "i'll not take public transport with bangla...etc " chinese blame that why bangla(plus foreign worker) become 4th or even 3rd population in malaysia. so who bring those bangla to malaysia. yeah you're right. mostly chinese . another major issue is public security. for a malaysian, "everybody can drive" is a priority dream in their life. malaysian especially chinese very kia shu punya, own a car is very important. yeah, chinese ppl are very selfish. how ever , i'm a chinese too. |
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QUOTE(llika @ Jan 31 2015, 02:04 AM) You are wrong, look at SG/HK, most of the ppl take MRT, they are chinese too, why they rather take public transport ?it is because the public transport there is alot more convenient compare to drive. All are well connected, shelter, good walking path, on schedule.. . |
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kidex cancelled by selangor mb azmin.
great news for the houses and condos along the route like ken damansara 2 & 3, jasmine, the sdb high rises. i think good for tropicana city mall too, or else the beautiful facade blocked. they should still have a series of flyovers though from kinrara to damansara for smoother, toll-free connection... |
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KIDEX is cancelled , any impact for property ?
https://www.facebook.com/mkinicn/posts/10153011338670465 |
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they need to find alternative for the road user
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Feb 16 2015, 02:18 PM
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NO KIDEX.
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propose a new free highway replace it
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Feb 16 2015, 02:36 PM
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how bout SKIP?
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Cancelled for now. They can always resubmit for approval to meet all 3 conditions.
Basically, just postponed I feel. When traffic at later years get worst, then many wouldn't even consider to protest anymore. Easier for proposal to get approval. |
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Scraped kidex cukup cukup
Jangan scraped klorr ekve Mati sama lu |
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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Feb 16 2015, 02:54 PM) Cancelled for now. They can always resubmit for approval to meet all 3 conditions. by that time MRT 3,LRT 3 complete already...and most people using public transport to work Basically, just postponed I feel. When traffic at later years get worst, then many wouldn't even consider to protest anymore. Easier for proposal to get approval. |
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QUOTE(danielisme @ Feb 16 2015, 03:01 PM) Construction of EKVE should be done with care as it will affect selangor water catchment and it will affect 106.65 ha of forests in Selangor.The Selangor Forestry Department has announced that 106.65 hectares (ha) of four forest reserves are proposed to be degazetted to make way for the Kuala Lumpur Outer Ring Road (KLORR), also known as the East Klang Valley Expressway (EKVE). This means 106.65 ha of forests that legally have the “forest reserve” status will lose its status. Some parts of these forests are within the Selangor State Park. A notice announcing this appeared in the New Straits Times Classified Section on 14 February 2014. Parts of the four forest reserves are the Ulu Langat Forest Reserve, Bukit Sungei Puteh Forest Reserve, Ampang Forest Reserve and Ulu Gombak Forest Reserve. According to the notice, residents living in the Ulu Langat and Gombak districts can voice their objections within 30 days from the day of the notice through written submissions to the Selangor State Forestry Department Director (Gombak district includes Ampang, Ulu Klang, Melawati, Bukit Antarabangsa and Rawang, while the Hulu Langat district covers Kajang, Cheras and Sungai Long). |
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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Feb 16 2015, 03:11 PM) Construction of EKVE should be done with care as it will affect selangor water catchment and it will affect 106.65 ha of forests in Selangor. this is pretty useless highway serve for few user only. Look at LEKAS. Cry foul due to minimal volume.The Selangor Forestry Department has announced that 106.65 hectares (ha) of four forest reserves are proposed to be degazetted to make way for the Kuala Lumpur Outer Ring Road (KLORR), also known as the East Klang Valley Expressway (EKVE). This means 106.65 ha of forests that legally have the “forest reserve” status will lose its status. Some parts of these forests are within the Selangor State Park. A notice announcing this appeared in the New Straits Times Classified Section on 14 February 2014. Parts of the four forest reserves are the Ulu Langat Forest Reserve, Bukit Sungei Puteh Forest Reserve, Ampang Forest Reserve and Ulu Gombak Forest Reserve. According to the notice, residents living in the Ulu Langat and Gombak districts can voice their objections within 30 days from the day of the notice through written submissions to the Selangor State Forestry Department Director (Gombak district includes Ampang, Ulu Klang, Melawati, Bukit Antarabangsa and Rawang, while the Hulu Langat district covers Kajang, Cheras and Sungai Long). |
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EKVE really need take care on forest and the water, not easy get approval
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i think KIDEX will come back again...
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QUOTE An independent review of Kidex by MDS Traffic Planners and Consultants showed last month that the project suffered from a poor planning process between various government levels, besides highlighting concerns of the highway encroaching homes and public buildings like schools and hospitals. - See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...h.Xz3qLjVV.dpuf hoping it will go ahead as planned |
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i guess who ever had bought property at that area n anticipating the new highway KIDEX , will be crying now. Developer who sell property and marked up the price becoz of this kidex will be laughing to the bank...basically now only have 1 loser, those new house buyer at that area..beside the KIDEX contractor
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scrap kidex don scrap SKIP
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QUOTE(Yamma @ Feb 16 2015, 03:30 PM) this is pretty useless highway serve for few user only. Look at LEKAS. Cry foul due to minimal volume. but for sure, later there will be more traffic using Lekas. Just like other h/way too.actually is a good plan, bcoz they built h/way first b4 the area get congested. Not like other h/way like kidex, dash etc |
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Look at LDP....last time loads of protest also mah.....noise, etc....so what....go ask those resident now lah....LDP good or not....hahahah.....
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When the developer start destroy the natural environment for uphill housing project all these ppl go and queue buy the units and stay there . Even cause landslide .
Now want construct highway which not benefit to them now only talk about natural environment |
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I recall during MEX the residents came out to protest with their pots and pans but the project bulldozed through. Today it is thr best highway I feel and atested by many that I spoke to. I gladly pay to use this highway due to convenience.
SKIp or KIDEX or DASH is intended for the same purpose. It will not solve world hunger but once done ppl will use it -gladly. I feel it had been too politicized hence whoever has the courage to 'call it off' will be hero. I don't directly benefit or lose with these highways but good planned and implemented infrastructure will only benefit in long run. |
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They are waiting for general public to beg for the highway in later time. Then approval will be easier as there will be strong backing from general public compared to any protest. If highway don't start now, by the time highway start works, traffic problem will be too critical to be resolved once highway completes.
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growing no. of cars with highway maintain...shall ask the state how to mitigate this problems ???? prepare to sleep on LDP ha..ha..ha..jam jam
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i think the SUKE they are going to play the same tactic...must well build highway in wilayah..let selangor die die jam lah..
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i think the highway support group too quite... so selangor gov think no one want the higway..
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Feb 17 2015, 09:29 AM
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that the problems with malaysian..not looking into problems but others...
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Azmin too politic . He should see big picture instead focus one dot on the paper .
That day jump up to rubbish container and drainage Even big mouth said want zero illegal rubbish in state. Until today my area illegal rubbish continues dump every where . |
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They cancel Kidex, I will cancel my vote on them next GE.
All are just purely political reason, he just want to make sure his seat are safe there. Lousy MB. |
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Agree ! the whole team of MPKJ must be replaced..the illegal rubbish dumping can see everywhere within the MPKJ area...not only illegal...rubbish along the street can be seen everywhere, but i never seen alam flora sweeping the street ....that call saving..???not spending ha..ha....with rubbish..car....oh no...no eye see..
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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Feb 17 2015, 09:59 AM) They cancel Kidex, I will cancel my vote on them next GE. He is smart. He know how to play the game within the short period of time.All are just purely political reason, he just want to make sure his seat are safe there. Lousy MB. Hope he bring better idea to Selangor. |
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Yup, it has play out badly for BN,
No profit, some more in a bad person status limelight for extending the 3rd time without justification, indicating deadline is not important as long as projects goes on. Development need to come with proper planning and consultations, but in plain view, aside claiming that they have meet the requirement, all facts and reports shows negative facts on KIDEX. The most funniest that even KIDEX reports shows negative facts and KIDEX choose not to work and resolve on the negative facts, but just ignore it. Pakatan and Azmin has emerge people champion in this development, and will be a good political points for upcoming selangor battle in next general election. The more BN try to navigate and push this project thru without solid facts and real action to resolve issues and bulldoze it, the more political points they will loose, not inclusive of other projects which is in Selangor. Additionally this will bring to an up rise of affected Residents NGO groups which both parties need to manage properly to ensure that they are in the good picture and not a in bad limelight as this case. A good political case sturdy for future reference |
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Feb 17 2015, 11:24 AM
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Another thing, the news which shows the supporter of kidex is one funny news. Actually I will like to listen to their arguments, and up till now, not much facts provided and just a blank claim that KIDEX will solve traffic issues as KIDEX itself.
We all know jams in HIGHWAY is also due to the toll booths, inefficient collection of tolls and every car has to stuck in the toll for hours and the whole highway is JAM. I am sorry to the supporter of KIDEX, but seeing such news make me wonder that these might be just actors acting, where else SNTK is supported by real professionals with resource to obtain various reports and debate it on facts. |
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Kidex operator didn't bother to revert to the three conditions set by Selangor state government, they have to face the project cancellation situation now
The three conditions, Azmin said, were preparing a free traffic impact assessment, social impact assessment and environmental impact assessment to show users and residents of involved areas the clear benefits or possible negative effects of the expressway. “Kidex was also expected to reveal the toll rates throughout the concession period including any rise in any toll rates set in the concession. “The concessionary party had to give official estimated rate of the toll collection and the rate of return to investment. “They also had to reveal the full concession agreement to keep in line with Pakatan Rakyat’s policy of integrity, accountability and responsibility,” he said. Azmin added the same approach would be used in the considering applications for approval of other expressways. EKVE operator need to learn from KIDEX otherwise same fate. or crony company unable to provide the detail because it involved too much mark up? This post has been edited by Palmwalker001: Feb 17 2015, 11:48 AM |
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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Feb 16 2015, 03:11 PM) Construction of EKVE should be done with care as it will affect selangor water catchment and it will affect 106.65 ha of forests in Selangor. Degazett or not all depend on Menteri Besar's decision, since Azmin has set the precedence for KIDEX, we expect the same for EKVE operator ie another crony Ahmad Zaki.The Selangor Forestry Department has announced that 106.65 hectares (ha) of four forest reserves are proposed to be degazetted to make way for the Kuala Lumpur Outer Ring Road (KLORR), also known as the East Klang Valley Expressway (EKVE). This means 106.65 ha of forests that legally have the “forest reserve” status will lose its status. Some parts of these forests are within the Selangor State Park. A notice announcing this appeared in the New Straits Times Classified Section on 14 February 2014. Parts of the four forest reserves are the Ulu Langat Forest Reserve, Bukit Sungei Puteh Forest Reserve, Ampang Forest Reserve and Ulu Gombak Forest Reserve. According to the notice, residents living in the Ulu Langat and Gombak districts can voice their objections within 30 days from the day of the notice through written submissions to the Selangor State Forestry Department Director (Gombak district includes Ampang, Ulu Klang, Melawati, Bukit Antarabangsa and Rawang, while the Hulu Langat district covers Kajang, Cheras and Sungai Long). |
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PR is already gov of Selangor since 2008. Why not PR crony come out with a good highway?
Always blame BN crony. But at least they come out with something. btw, businessman is not certain side crony, they play and fund both sides. |
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Feb 17 2015, 12:27 PM
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So after reject Kidex.. what is the plan to reduce traffic Jam problem?
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Feb 17 2015, 12:38 PM
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rejecting kidex itself seems like a plan already to me when KIDEX cannot validate its claim on how it can reduce traffic jam problem.
It will be always federal and state government politic manuever. Your project, i dont like, my project you dont like scenario. Then any project such as MRT and LRT normally pass thru as the rakyat know it is beneficial to the country no matter which gang benefits, so it has the political milleage to carry on. However if any party want to bulldoze projects which is not justifiable by reports, do not wish to resolve it, this case will serve as good precedence. So future project, do your own homework firstla, wen try to earn bilions. If you come out with solid reports and action plan, you have the moral ground and supporters. Dont be cheapskate and show that you can just bulldoze no matter how. It is politically risky..... |
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Feb 17 2015, 12:40 PM
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The government don't need to build toll free highways anymore? How is it they can approve condo projects after condo projects and yet not improve the infrastructure? Is that their modus operandi, increase the density of a certain area to infinity and approve a highway concessionaire to alleviate the traffic congestion?
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QUOTE(spurswong @ Feb 17 2015, 12:40 PM) The government don't need to build toll free highways anymore? How is it they can approve condo projects after condo projects and yet not improve the infrastructure? Is that their modus operandi, increase the density of a certain area to infinity and approve a highway concessionaire to alleviate the traffic congestion? and u expect gov to build highway when they are broke? yes, they should. but that would be too idealistic, which wont solve problem. Agreed on point raise up about proper study and transparency. A good precedence case for future references. Perhaps in future, state gov should find solution or new route and open it for private company to compete. They have so many staff happily spent time for shopping. |
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Feb 17 2015, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(Yamma @ Feb 17 2015, 12:06 PM) PR is already gov of Selangor since 2008. Why not PR crony come out with a good highway? this one involve federal gov..u think if PR crony come out with good hway, they will accept it and reject their own cronies? Always blame BN crony. But at least they come out with something. btw, businessman is not certain side crony, they play and fund both sides. |
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yes, agreed with your point, KIDEX necessary can solve traffic issues on LDP.....but, without KIDEX, all car only follow LDP which i know off....this can solve traffic issues though ???? especially growing no. of vehicle on the road each year ???
QUOTE(kohts @ Feb 17 2015, 11:24 AM) Another thing, the news which shows the supporter of kidex is one funny news. Actually I will like to listen to their arguments, and up till now, not much facts provided and just a blank claim that KIDEX will solve traffic issues as KIDEX itself. We all know jams in HIGHWAY is also due to the toll booths, inefficient collection of tolls and every car has to stuck in the toll for hours and the whole highway is JAM. I am sorry to the supporter of KIDEX, but seeing such news make me wonder that these might be just actors acting, where else SNTK is supported by real professionals with resource to obtain various reports and debate it on facts. |
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Feb 17 2015, 02:16 PM
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Feb 17 2015, 02:18 PM
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Feb 17 2015, 02:19 PM
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yeah..with hway built today...in 5yrs time, the road still jam pack...without highway...road become sleeping bed...hha..ha..
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QUOTE PJ City Council rejects Kidex after independent study BY SHERIDAN MAHAVERA Published: 30 January 2015 8:29 AM The Petaling Jaya City Council (MBPJ) has decided not to include the highway in the draft plan for Petaling Jaya, after an analysis by an independent consultant on its benefits. This is tantamount to the local authority not giving the developer approval for the project in its current form. The decision also refutes claims that it benefits Petaling Jaya – one of the key conditions set by Selangor to give the final green light. even MBPJ reject KIDEX..no chance lorrrr |
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Is KIDEX Free of Toll? If yes, I will support to have, if no, I will reject it. LOL...
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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 17 2015, 02:22 PM) what make you believed superb public transport will solve road congestion?Malaysian is too lazy to take public transport. they will find excuse to justify it. Safety, hot, don't want to que, not flexible etc etc. |
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Naik motor will be risking our own life considering Malaysia road got no motor lanes and Malaysian driver selfish attitude.
If you pass by BU then u will see some Taman already put up "Say No To LRT3" in front of their Guard house. |
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Feb 17 2015, 03:41 PM
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Puchong is over devoloped ! That's the main problem ~ Not kIDEX, NOT LDP
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QUOTE(upgraded @ Feb 17 2015, 03:41 PM) The main problem of construction of Expressway/Highway in Malaysia is the Expressway is construct using the federal road which is not right. It should give choices to road user to choose whether to use expressway or federal road |
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To solve congestion issue by building more highways is like trying to cut vege with a samurai sword.
Even tho u can cut it , but its not the right tool. N its expensive too. So u should find a appropriate knife. N one of the right tool for the issue right now is to improve the public transport systems. Even though it will not fully resolve the congestion issue, it is at least the right start and then we can build on from there. |
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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Feb 17 2015, 06:06 PM) To solve congestion issue by building more highways is like trying to cut vege with a samurai sword. Nowadays, not many people dare to take bus to their desired destination due to 2 main reasons:Even tho u can cut it , but its not the right tool. N its expensive too. So u should find a appropriate knife. N one of the right tool for the issue right now is to improve the public transport systems. Even though it will not fully resolve the congestion issue, it is at least the right start and then we can build on from there. 1. Buses don't appear according to the schedule; 2. Not hygienic; |
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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Feb 17 2015, 06:06 PM) To solve congestion issue by building more highways is like trying to cut vege with a samurai sword. However, you have to know almost all public transport development in the world is non-profitable project. Whereas highway project in Malaysia is earning tonnes of $$$$.Even tho u can cut it , but its not the right tool. N its expensive too. So u should find a appropriate knife. N one of the right tool for the issue right now is to improve the public transport systems. Even though it will not fully resolve the congestion issue, it is at least the right start and then we can build on from there. |
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the best solution would be , minyak naik sampai RM6.00/liter.. then you can see less 30% car in traffic. government win , rakyat(rich) win.
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QUOTE(Maneki-neko @ Feb 17 2015, 09:24 PM) Nowadays, not many people dare to take bus to their desired destination due to 2 main reasons: Still, those 2 weaknesses are a lot cheaper to correct compared to the gazillions that will be required to build highways.1. Buses don't appear according to the schedule; 2. Not hygienic; |
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How many projects were promoted with proposed KIDEX? I guess there are many. One big one is O2 Residence. What else?
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QUOTE(Maneki-neko @ Feb 17 2015, 09:24 PM) Nowadays, not many people dare to take bus to their desired destination due to 2 main reasons: Spot on, which is y SPAD should be kicked in the ass for such a lousy job.. N more resources should be put into improving the public transport, rather on highways which are privately owned n the obscene profits will be flowed in private coffers, unacceptable!!!1. Buses don't appear according to the schedule; 2. Not hygienic; |
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Let see how the talented team who reject KIDEX coming up with good transportation plan...
if not, suffer is those ppl staying in Selangor, especially puchong kinrara area ... QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Feb 17 2015, 11:28 PM) |
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QUOTE(bob @ Feb 17 2015, 03:23 PM) And KIDEX wont solve it..in fact KIDEX will only make traffic worst based on research by independent bodyPublic transport is the way to go...not 100% will use it but it certainly help ease traffic..klang valley needs efficient public transport like singapore..right now our public transport is not that efficient..most people using cars becoz of that..but in 5-10 years from now, more and more people will use public transport when new phase of lrt,mrt completed |
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just use public transport....
build so much highway also jam one. |
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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Feb 17 2015, 10:09 PM) Still, those 2 weaknesses are a lot cheaper to correct compared to the gazillions that will be required to build highways. Government now prefer to build more roads, employing snatch thieves to keep public transport "unsafe".Selling 1l of diesel to bus that can carry 40 passengers will yield lesser margin compare to sell 40l of petrol for 40 people. |
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Don't understand why people keep complaining building highway is expensive and it's their concern. The money to build it came from conssession Kidex company. The more costly, it's their issue. They have to manage their fund. And if they charge too high in tolls collection, no one force you die die have to use Kidex. There is still ldp for you.
All I can say is, Selangor government did not look at big picture when decide to cancel kidex. Tats the last term I'm going to vote for them. Frankly it's lousy for them to just cancel like tat. |
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QUOTE(calvin989898 @ Feb 22 2015, 10:54 AM) Don't understand why people keep complaining building highway is expensive and it's their concern. The money to build it came from conssession Kidex company. The more costly, it's their issue. They have to manage their fund. And if they charge too high in tolls collection, no one force you die die have to use Kidex. There is still ldp for you. Huh? No kidex then u don't for them? U prefer to vote for someone who uses your money to build a mansion without your consent?? All I can say is, Selangor government did not look at big picture when decide to cancel kidex. Tats the last term I'm going to vote for them. Frankly it's lousy for them to just cancel like tat. |
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QUOTE(Maneki-neko @ Feb 22 2015, 04:05 PM) Huh? No kidex then u don't for them? U prefer to vote for someone who uses your money to build a mansion without your consent?? Yes, it shows how the current state government tackling the issues. I rather vote for someone that at least bring on development to the states instead of keep object or cancel those projects. There is no guarantee as well PR does not misuse any of the fund. |
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QUOTE(calvin989898 @ Feb 22 2015, 04:30 PM) Yes, it shows how the current state government tackling the issues. I rather vote for someone that at least bring on development to the states instead of keep object or cancel those projects. There is no guarantee as well PR does not misuse any of the fund. Yes, agreed with you. |
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Do you think the state leaders never misuse people's money? Nobody so clean and perfect.
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Hi, just want to know how is the response from residents during early planning of DUKE hiway? Sorry i am not expert on the design criteria or technical, but it looks like the concept is almost the same, by build an elevated hiway crossing peoples shop, houses, ect. once completed, this DUKE really benifits the people with less and short journey time from duta to mrr2 ampang or gombak. Plus now there are extension to jalan pahang under construction. Just my 2 cents opinion.
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QUOTE(noorazimradzi @ Feb 22 2015, 04:44 PM) Hi, just want to know how is the response from residents during early planning of DUKE hiway? Sorry i am not expert on the design criteria or technical, but it looks like the concept is almost the same, by build an elevated hiway crossing peoples shop, houses, ect. once completed, this DUKE really benifits the people with less and short journey time from duta to mrr2 ampang or gombak. Plus now there are extension to jalan pahang under construction. Just my 2 cents opinion. Duke I'm not sure. But for MEX highway , people stay in seri petaling was protest like hell. But finally the project proceed and during tat time those house affected was granted freehold status from leasehold as compensation. This is what we call leadership where find a solution to solve. Just merely cancel the project is NOT solution. And now u ask so many people benefited from MEX |
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QUOTE(calvin989898 @ Feb 22 2015, 04:51 PM) Duke I'm not sure. But for MEX highway , people stay in seri petaling was protest like hell. But finally the project proceed and during tat time those house affected was granted freehold status from leasehold as compensation. This is what we call leadership where find a solution to solve. Just merely cancel the project is NOT solution. And now u ask so many people benefited from MEX Noted with thanks. |
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QUOTE(calvin989898 @ Feb 22 2015, 04:51 PM) Duke I'm not sure. But for MEX highway , people stay in seri petaling was protest like hell. But finally the project proceed and during tat time those house affected was granted freehold status from leasehold as compensation. This is what we call leadership where find a solution to solve. Just merely cancel the project is NOT solution. And now u ask so many people benefited from MEX By changing lease to free hold, the payment will be increased.From a quiet and clean environment changing to noisy and dirty environment, it does not make sense. Maybe is like what some leader says : rakyat senang diperbodohkan |
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Feb 22 2015, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 22 2015, 07:30 PM) By changing lease to free hold, the payment will be increased. If we want clean and quiet, KV is not right place for you to stay. If given free upgrade to freehold also complaint fees goes up, there is nothing to say. U can always decline for the free upgrade.From a quiet and clean environment changing to noisy and dirty environment, it does not make sense. Maybe is like what some leader says : rakyat senang diperbodohkan |
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Feb 22 2015, 09:16 PM
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Feb 22 2015, 09:29 PM
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I really hope residents who protest the kidex and dash projects will never again use nkve, skve, sprint, npe, duke etc because those people never know how to appreciate the residents of these neighbourhoods that have sacrifice their peace and harmony for the sake of development.
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Feb 22 2015, 10:06 PM
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If one drive on the road one can see lotsa "idiot" drivers. But when u make an illegal u turn, it's coz u "are entitled" to since the road system is crap. Typical mentality.
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Feb 22 2015, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(tressele @ Feb 22 2015, 09:29 PM) I really hope residents who protest the kidex and dash projects will never again use nkve, skve, sprint, npe, duke etc because those people never know how to appreciate the residents of these neighbourhoods that have sacrifice their peace and harmony for the sake of development. Agree with you freinds. Its crazy now want to go IKEA from Seri Kembangan take more than one hour, it should have more alternative route and I believe this KIDEX is one of the solution. |
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Feb 22 2015, 10:14 PM
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Whatever arguement we have here, the decision by Menteri Besar has been made.
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Feb 22 2015, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(noorazimradzi @ Feb 22 2015, 10:11 PM) Agree with you freinds. Its crazy now want to go IKEA from Seri Kembangan take more than one hour, it should have more alternative route and I believe this KIDEX is one of the solution. Most furniture, hardware shops in Malaysia are offering better quality stuffs than Ikea with a fraction of price |
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Feb 23 2015, 08:01 AM
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Good thing the MB put his foot down
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Feb 23 2015, 08:55 AM
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Feb 23 2015, 08:57 AM
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Feb 23 2015, 08:57 PM
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Feb 24 2015, 09:50 AM
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kidex mati pucuk .. sadding .
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Feb 24 2015, 11:42 AM
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Published: Tuesday February 24, 2015 MYT 12:00:00 AM
Updated: Tuesday February 24, 2015 MYT 7:12:02 AM Group hopes MB will make a stand on Dash THE Say No To Dash (SNTD) group lauded the move by Selangor Mentri Besar Azmin Ali to cancel the controversial Kinrara Damansara Expressway (Kidex) as a precedent for all future developments. In a statement, SNTD said Azmin’s decision showed that the interests of the people, especially their safety and homes, were important. The group hoped that the same pledge would be made when making the right decision for the Damansara-Shah Alam Highway (Dash). In the statement, it was stated that Dash had been given the green light from Putrajaya through an announcement made by Works Minister Datuk Fadillah Yusof in January, but the approval was backdated to the expiry of the concession agreement on Dec 25 last year. SNTD had previously met with Fadillah on Dec 2 last year and a copy of the approved Traffic Impact Assessment (TIA) and Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) were obtained later. SNTD said they had noted flaws in both studies and presented them to Azmin. In addition, SNTD said the consultation of affected residents was glaringly incomplete — where residents of Damansara Perdana directly affected by the alignment were not included in any consultations or surveys. The group said over 5,000 signatures were collected from those objecting the highway project and presented to Fadillah and Azmin. Recently, SNTD submitted 728 representation forms objecting to Dash in Damansara for the Selangor Structural Plan 2035 Exploratory Report. On Jan 25, Fadillah had announced that the concessionaire would consider in re-aligning the last segment of the proposed highway. SNTD has since sent in a meeting request to Fadillah on Feb 4, to enable discussion but the request had not been acknowledged by the Works Ministry. “We would like to emphasise once again that the SNTD is not against development nor the entirety of Dash but only on the alignment of the third segment of the highway which is the Damansara segment and specially through the densely populated Damansara Perdana,” the statement added. The team is now urging Azmin to swiftly make a stand of Dash and its realignment away from Damansara Perdana. |
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Jul 27 2015, 12:21 PM
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any new updates about these 2 highway? Banned or still stuck in progress?
lately i heard salesman mentioned about the entrance at puncak jalil for MEx highway near PUJ1, is it real? |
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Jul 27 2015, 01:09 PM
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ya KIDEX confirmed already. How about SKIP? Anyone mind to share?
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Jul 27 2015, 02:19 PM
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Jul 27 2015, 02:35 PM
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Jul 28 2015, 12:59 PM
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Sorry.. Mayb i din put my sentences well. I mean confirmed x jadi already.😁
kidex cancelled This post has been edited by hiam0314: Jul 28 2015, 01:01 PM |
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Sep 28 2015, 03:37 PM
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Govt open to alternatives to Kidex highway
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...hway/?style=biz |
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Nov 19 2015, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 28 2015, 03:37 PM) Govt open to alternatives to Kidex highway News report too expensive and no one willing to do it http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...hway/?style=biz |
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Nov 19 2015, 08:15 PM
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Nov 19 2015, 10:20 PM
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Tell your DUN that u want KIDEX. Only PJ opposed to this project and PKR used it as their bullet for previous election.
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Nov 19 2015, 10:46 PM
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Nov 20 2015, 03:21 PM
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aiks, every morning going thru ldp to pj is like wprse nightmare, but happening everyday
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Nov 20 2015, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(leftist @ Nov 19 2015, 11:46 PM) This is because PJ's DUN speaks louder then other places DUN. Also this is one of the political agenda for Opposition to shine over BN project to proof their competency.Unfortunately those unfortunate one who leave far away from town needs to go through the hurdles. In short, earn more money so get a unit in town. Else don't complain and get up early to avoid the jam. |
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QUOTE(Ecofriend88 @ Nov 20 2015, 03:38 PM) This is because PJ's DUN speaks louder then other places DUN. Also this is one of the political agenda for Opposition to shine over BN project to proof their competency. very true...if work near pj just stay in pj laaa...Unfortunately those unfortunate one who leave far away from town needs to go through the hurdles. In short, earn more money so get a unit in town. Else don't complain and get up early to avoid the jam. get existing condo or house in established areas or buy section 13 PJ new projects. |
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Nov 20 2015, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(Ecofriend88 @ Nov 20 2015, 03:38 PM) This is because PJ's DUN speaks louder then other places DUN. Also this is one of the political agenda for Opposition to shine over BN project to proof their competency. i support KIDEX..but i can understand why state govt doing this..if majority of the affected people against it, they must listenUnfortunately those unfortunate one who leave far away from town needs to go through the hurdles. In short, earn more money so get a unit in town. Else don't complain and get up early to avoid the jam. |
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Nov 20 2015, 10:29 PM
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Nov 20 2015, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(leftist @ Nov 20 2015, 09:22 PM) i support KIDEX..but i can understand why state govt doing this..if majority of the affected people against it, they must listen There is no perfect scenario in any development. The problem is the house owners are not getting fair or to me should be a premium compensation since they sacrify for hundred thousands of road users. All up to how the government handle the issue. Simple solution just to cancel it to make the affected one happy. The rest remain status quo. |
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Aug 15 2024, 05:55 PM
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About 30 highways hv been constructed in the last 30 years, it seems like Puchong is only benifited from LDP which is not enough.
I notice that in order to ease the traffic jam, a CBD area must have at least 2 highways passing through, about 20 places (CBD) are having heavy traffic jam in 90’s - 2010, 90% of the traffic have been solved. SKIP and KIDEX are very crucial for travellers N - S and S - N |
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Aug 15 2024, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(888-Alien @ Aug 15 2024, 05:55 PM) About 30 highways hv been constructed in the last 30 years, it seems like Puchong is only benifited from LDP which is not enough. SKIP has permanently cancelled, no chance at allI notice that in order to ease the traffic jam, a CBD area must have at least 2 highways passing through, about 20 places (CBD) are having heavy traffic jam in 90’s - 2010, 90% of the traffic have been solved. SKIP and KIDEX are very crucial for travellers N - S and S - N |
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Aug 16 2024, 09:59 AM
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