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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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sledgehammer
post Mar 9 2006, 06:48 PM

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hey sifus all

so far for the whole exhaust setup, extractor shd give the biggest difference to the performance rite? how about muffler? will aftermarket muffler gives advantage over stock muffler? (for NA car)
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post Mar 10 2006, 11:03 AM

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how bout the middle piping? for na cars ppl always recommend max 2 inches...
does that give differences as well? something to do with backpressure?
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post May 30 2006, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 28 2006, 11:52 PM)
heard from my friend, stainless steel can stand that long too after 3 years sure koyak, is it true?

Because the exhaust piping will heat up so hot until it can't handle
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koyak u mean is bocor?? ohmy.gif
my extractor is stainless steel one unsure.gif
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post Jun 5 2006, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(soggie @ May 31 2006, 09:00 AM)
One question to you - what's a 1-4-2-3 extractor? I've only heard of 4-2-1 and 4-1.
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i think he meant the piping joint on the 4-2-1 extractor

1 and 4 join together while 2 and 3 join together
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post Jun 6 2006, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ May 31 2006, 12:15 PM)
The fire dragon or flame dragon add on kit is pretty useless to me.....
All I can see is fire comes out from the exhaust, nothing more >.>"
More like show off
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post Jun 6 2006, 10:12 AM

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btw guys

saw some of the extractor use mandrel piping.... what's that actually?
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post Jun 6 2006, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(soggie @ Jun 6 2006, 02:37 PM)
You mean mandrel-bent pipes. Mandrel is a tooling process that when applied to bending pipes, allows the bent sections to retain the same diameter as the straight sections (when normal bending processes reduces the diameter or create folds or other obstructions that might impede the flow of gasses). Its the most preferred method to create manifolds for use in race applications, if my memory is right.
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thanks for da info rclxms.gif

so far i see the pics of mandrel bent pipe, the shape of the extractor is quite "funny", many curves.

but since the mandrel bent design emphasize on the diameter size (which same across the entire length of the extractor pipe), why their design doesnt look like those "conventional" extractor design? for example for a 4-2-1 extractor, the 4-2 section for so called "conventional" extractor is J shaped, but so far i see the mandrel bent piping, the shape at 4-2 section was just "curly"...

sorry if i asked stupid question here... car n00b here

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post Jun 8 2006, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(soggie @ Jun 7 2006, 09:02 AM)
Err I think you've misunderstood the meaning of mandrel bent pipes haha. The design of the pipes has nothing to do with whether its mandrel bent or not... mandrel is just a technique to bend the pipes, just like port and polish has nothing to do with designing an engine head. The design of the pipes is up to individual tuners, for specific usages. I think the one you see is a mandrel-bent pipe that is shaped in a way so that the exhaust pulses will optimumly scavenge the next exhaust pulses at a certain RPM range, meaning tuned extractor in short. And I also know some turbo manifolds are formed like that (we call it banana manifold) haha.

EDIT:

I think you should call it - mandrel-bent AND tuned extractor. tongue.gif
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icic.... it's the mechanism of the bending....
thanks very much!! rclxms.gif
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post Aug 11 2006, 07:10 PM

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what is cat back exhaust anyway?
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post Aug 15 2006, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(soggie @ Aug 11 2006, 07:21 PM)
cat back exhaust means moving the cat all the way to the end of the exhaust pipes - which is also known as a straight-out setup or whatever you wish to call it. If you look underneath the car, you'll only see a straight pipe connecting from the exhaust manifold all the way to the muffler. That's a cat-back setup. No cats, mid boxes or bullets in the middle.
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icic.... what is the beauty side of this exhaust ?
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post Aug 16 2006, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(farique @ Aug 16 2006, 08:30 AM)
ofcourse for increasing performance.. BUT, if u dont know nothing about ur engine, dont ever think of doing it. If ur engine still a stock standard without any modification, dont every try to do it or you'll end up lossing power and super high fuel consumption.

this setup also called as direct pipe setup.
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i saw R3 MME waja manual is using this type of exhaust.... smile.gif

but they nvr mentioned it's performance...
but since it is a direct piping, this exhaust setup is suitable for manual only izzit?
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post Aug 22 2006, 06:34 PM

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sorry, off topic for a while.
any sifu kind to open another thread for internal engine mod such as cam or ignition timing or etc?
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post Sep 1 2006, 10:29 AM

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may i know what is twin loop exhaust??
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post Oct 25 2006, 01:45 PM

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can the twinloop exhaust use for non vtec auto car??
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post Feb 24 2007, 10:33 AM

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wanna ask the sifu all here.... smile.gif

for simple mod like a forumer here selling in automotive garage, the Mini Turbo, i understand that it actually provides auxilary intake for the engine.... but the auxilary intake actually bypass the maf or map sensors....

all cars come from manufacturer is tuned to run richer a little bit to prolong the engine life....
thus this gadget shd cause the engine to run a little leaner than stock....

so theoretically if the air fuel mixture is slightly leaner than stock after using mini turbo, will it cause any problem?

or the AF ratio will be more perfect (close to 14:1) after using this gadget? (since stock setting is always running richer than usual)
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post Feb 26 2007, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(VarioCam @ Feb 26 2007, 05:29 PM)
soulfly,

does that mean if my fueling will be a lot more richer if i remove the cat?
i thought it's gonna be tad leaner due to more airflow meh?  rclxub.gif
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if i am not mistaken, engine which run rich or badly tune will lead to black smoke emission.... thus the cat will actually reduce the pollution via its chemical reaction...

pls correct me if i am wrong coz i am still newbie in cars.. notworthy.gif
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post Feb 27 2007, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(sledgehammer @ Feb 24 2007, 10:33 AM)
wanna ask the sifu all here.... smile.gif

for simple mod like a forumer here selling in automotive garage, the Mini Turbo, i understand that it actually provides auxilary intake for the engine.... but the auxilary intake actually bypass the maf or map sensors....

all cars come from manufacturer is tuned to run richer a little bit to prolong the engine life....
thus this gadget shd cause the engine to run a little leaner than stock....

so theoretically if the air fuel mixture is slightly leaner than stock after using mini turbo, will it cause any problem?

or the AF ratio will be more perfect (close to 14:1) after using this gadget? (since stock setting is always running richer than usual)
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any sifu can answer this?? notworthy.gif


QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Feb 27 2007, 11:23 AM)
A bent exhaust to induce backpressure is bad. I explained it in my previous post(the one kev da man replied to) and the effect is called 'scavenging'. Backpressure is the opposing force that tends to push the exhaust back to where it came from.

Having a restrictive exhaust will certainly reduce your power and torque output.
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this article really clear my doubts! thumbup.gif

 

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