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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post Jan 25 2009, 04:09 AM

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hello guys..need advice for my auto 1.3 myvi..
currently my mod is K&N drop in,4-1 hotbits extractor,1.6inch piping and at the back got 1 sflow box before the last straight flow muffler..
before this i put a twisted centre bullet but my topspeed drop a lot(140kmh only)..
so i remove the bullet and make it straight from the extractor until the sflow box and the straight muffler..
the top speed come back and can reach until 170kmh at the earlier..
but after two weeks running on this mod i feel my car a bit underpower..doesnt feel like earlier after i remove the twisted bullet.
fren of mine,auto also but with stock condition, only on 17inch rim can easily overtake me.. sad.gif
need some of the 'taiko' advice here.. icon_question.gif
thanx!


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post Jan 30 2009, 04:26 PM

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Everco in Sunway,is it a good workmanship workshoP?
planning to change my exhaust..dont know what shop is good..
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post Feb 1 2009, 12:28 AM

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had tried asking JFA today about the piping for my car+centre bullet..stainless steel type..they quote 800bucks!
aiyaa...but,anyone had tried JFA centre bullet?is it good?
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post Feb 2 2009, 02:10 AM

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basically how much the cost for mendral bend piping?

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post Feb 5 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(davvycroix @ Feb 5 2009, 03:37 AM)
apeq
what engine u're using ??

mandrel? depending on what u want..


Added on February 5, 2009, 3:41 amwanna add something
a stock piping for a satria neo is around 1.78 inches
which is from the mid to the end.

the extractor wa tak tau
haha...
anyone knows anything about campro ( satrianeo )

wanna add some details here =)
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k3ve..myvi 1.3 only ma...heheh



yesterday i go to everco..really satisfied with their service..even though i m just asking the price and discuss2 abit bout how to make it nice..
very clear explanation too from them..
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post Feb 7 2009, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(davvycroix @ Feb 6 2009, 07:32 PM)
ha...
everco... it should be that sweet mouth kingston rite apeq?
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hahah..yup2..but its better than any lousy workshop that i've went..

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post Feb 14 2009, 12:53 AM

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anybody knows what reliable exhaust workshop that open on sunday in kL?other than waiheng la..
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post Feb 14 2009, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 14 2009, 02:49 AM)
I don't think Wai Heng is reliable smile.gif At least for me, I'll never return to any of their shops again. They are selling China made mufflers that doesn't last and telling us it's from Taiwan. That's already dishonesty and not only that, the price is not cheap either.
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Agreed with u! thats why i ask, have any other workshop other than waiheng thats open on sunday?
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post Feb 14 2009, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(aliftaufiq @ Feb 14 2009, 09:06 AM)
If got extra money to spend than i suggest u to go Jian Heng Batu Cave or Ijal Exhaust at Kg Nahkoda Selayang...Their workmanship are superb  wink.gif
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do they open on sunday?
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post Feb 15 2009, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 15 2009, 01:30 AM)
As I say, their mufflers and products are cheapskate from China (so called Taiwanese made). I had the same problem and my muffler leaked just after few weeks of usage and I can't be bothered to return for the 3rd time. They also killed my O2 sensor and I have to replace it for RM1000+ Their representative seller over here is also very irresponsible, saying and promising things but end up never doing.

I suggest you to find another shop to resolve the problem or if you think it's worth to give WAI HENG another chance then return and get it rectified. If they ask you to pay more to get this and that changed, you might as well forget it. Trust me that WAI HENG is a very terrible exhaust shop to go.
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agreed with u!~ rclxms.gif
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post Feb 15 2009, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 15 2009, 02:17 AM)
Actually all exhaust shops are able to help you modify and do recommendations. However some of them are not qualified enough and unable to give you proper advice. For example, the recommendation did by WAI HENG to my ride has caused my top speed to drop to 170km/h (totally unacceptable for a 2.4 litre car). Just be careful and you don't want to screw up your ride smile.gif Keep the stock mufflers/CAT in case you need to replace it back.

Alternatively you can browse and google around to get some ideas. Also, there's a certain limit you can gain from the exhaust modification. If you're really interested in getting more power, why not consider stuffs like E-Manage, Unichip, lightened crank pulley, etc?
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mine even worst with their BS advice..140kmh only my topspeed!really pissed off dat time..

btw, JFA is one of the most famous exhaust shop in KL but their price doh.gif
but still worth to compare with their workmanship..

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post Feb 15 2009, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 15 2009, 02:30 AM)
It's actually alright and if you know what you're doing, you can ask them to do according to what you want instead of them recommending. As long as you have the $$$, I'm sure they'll be more than happy to help you out smile.gif Bigger piping size isn't necessarily better but you can give it a shot. Personally I'll try to stick with stock as much as possible or only a slight increase (I'm on auto transmission).
I'm sorry to hear that bro and looks like both of us got conned badly sad.gif Their muffler are of cheap quality so it doesn't give enough back pressure to obtain better top speed.
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yar lorh..never come to their shop again..some of my frens also having a bad experience with their workmanship..
btw, i m using their s*upid swirl mid bullet that make my topspeed suffer..after remove that thingy only can back to normal..
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post Feb 16 2009, 11:32 PM

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go to everco sunway..
today i went there to did an installation for my full exhaust system..
their workmanship quite good n also nice customer service..
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post Feb 17 2009, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Feb 17 2009, 12:54 AM)
I went to 2 WAI HENG's and the first one (Setapak XIN EXHAUST) was totally screwed because their recommendation was totally wrong. The setup was noisy and the car vibrating like mad when you step on the accelerator. The reason is because of the loud humming sound from the mid and rear muffler. After that I changed to a more silent setup in Puchong where I was made to pay RM550. They re-did everything from the front till the rear and the guy also seemed to know what he is doing. However on one fine day, I drove to Cameron Highlands only to know my top speed stays at 170km/h. After that, I went to Genting and came back with a damaged/leaked mid muffler which produces loud humming sound. Not long later, my O2 sensor was broken.

In total, I've spent RM1400+ on WAI HENG but now, I don't use anything from them at all. It's only about 2-3 months and I had everything including piping changed from another shop in Ampang. This new place that I go to have better quality mufflers and are more silent as well.

As I say, what we want is different and mine at 6,500rpm is only some buzzing sound smile.gif I want a setup that is as silent as possible.
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u are totally same with me..went to 2 of their branch..1st at puchong,really dissapointed+wasted my money there!
2nd go to setapak branch,then feel ok a bit..but still lack of power..just the sound really loud at high rev but move like a snail..

This post has been edited by apeq: Feb 17 2009, 01:26 AM
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post Feb 26 2009, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(- JaY - @ Feb 25 2009, 03:28 PM)
I went to Wai Heng few months ago to do my exhaust, i was told that 2 center box + 2" piping would be a good setup and i was new that time, so i just ikut la. was told that the bullets are imported from Taiwan so its good. 2-4 months later, everytime when heavy rain, my car undercarriage vibrates and my exhaust tone changed when it rains. I went back to them and ask them check, their reply was "i found a small hole, but it shouldnt cause ur car to vibrate but i already weld it back, if problem still there, i cant help u, u need to go back honda". I was like "wth?, u think honda will layan me after i changed exhaust?"

So i thought ok la, settle, but the problem didnt end. then 6months from the day i installed those center boxes which is today, i went and check at other exhaust shop because i cant just act like nothing happened. The exhaust shop checked and confirmed 1 of the center bullet already kaput, can even see the burnt mark outside the box and the boss even confirmed that its locally made instead of their so called "imported quality".

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thats what i said..they always conned people that is new with exhaust2 thingy..
me also 'kena' before..and really regret to go to their shop again..
their sflow also not a real sflow..it is a three flow exhaust..then call it as sflow..
said that it is stainless steel but after use about 2 months,got rusted here and there.. shakehead.gif
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post Feb 26 2009, 06:54 PM

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i dont know what grade it is but as i know the rusty even got at the centre of the box..not only at the welding part..
if it turns to yellowish,i know since it is normal for stainless steel..but rust?aiya..dont know how to say la..

 

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