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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post Dec 11 2011, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Dec 11 2011, 01:56 PM)
i disagree with it...piping size doesnt always relate to CC...its more on the amount of power u have and where in the rev ranger is that power at.

take for example 1.6...campros and CPS goes up to 2.0 and the gain is pretty decent... even CPS stock piping size is 2.0....go bigger and kaput...

but when it comes to the 1.6 MIVECs and VTECs...although the 2" pipes is pretty decent for those engines but they benefit more with 2.3" especially since most of the peak power is at the higher end of the rev range and the bigger pipe size really benefits the higher rev range.

my 2.0 VTEC is running 2.5" pipes.. and its good...so good.. 4-1, 2.5" pipe, 1 midbox, no muffler.

i also have an exhaust cut out valve.. so when the valve closed the exhaust is forced from a 2.5" pipe into a 2.3" pipe and s-flow muffler.....i lose 15hp about 1.2kg torque. tested this on the dyno just yesterday

so max n/a is 2.0"??? big big no.
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So what did you get at yesterday's dyno tune? smile.gif
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post Dec 12 2011, 12:34 AM

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To be able to hit 265km/h in a 1.6 MIVEC triptonic somemore in a heavy Waja chassis, that MIVEC sure have a lot of firepower in it, my friend's Satria MIVEC manual with 152whp also struggling to go higher than 245km/h already.....
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post Dec 14 2011, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 13 2011, 11:21 PM)
Lolx~! Really got helped one meh? I got a friend driving 4G63T wira... He has modified a lot... Everything not standard... Horsepower 560+ with dyno test... He top speed only 260km/hr because the rpm aalready  almost max >< I really hard to believe 1600cc can reach 265km/hr~
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Still 2WD right?

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post Dec 19 2011, 08:26 AM

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56 seconds means the starting straights are longer now....not like the last one I went, 80% tight corners XD
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post Dec 19 2011, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(amir_tengkorak @ Dec 19 2011, 08:55 AM)
your last time is your first time.hahahaha
same with me la.
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That one gila to the tyres hahaha
Higher degree cams doesn't suit that track XD
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post Dec 22 2011, 08:41 AM

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Why your piping 1.6" but the rest of your stuffs are like 2"? hmm.gif
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post Dec 25 2011, 01:15 AM

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What kind of power do you want?
In terms of response? Top speed?
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post Dec 25 2011, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 25 2011, 11:57 AM)
Can I have both?&nbsp; sweat.gif
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There are no best of both worlds bro smile.gif

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post Dec 28 2011, 12:11 AM

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Got bullet then it is okay
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post Feb 22 2012, 08:20 AM

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What is your rpm at neutral? If it is normal, you should take a look at your engine mountings
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post Apr 4 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(_Buyer @ Apr 4 2012, 02:29 PM)
wow..been reading a lot for exhaust setup till i screwed myself! too much different opinion here n there shakehead.gif  rclxub.gif shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif 
By the way, i can see a lot of forumer in this post seems knowlegedgable, which i hope can help me finalize my decision before i bought any exhaust system.

I'm driving a manual tranny Persona Campro IAFM, and currently looking into better exhaust system fits. Currently i have a free PZ 4-2-1 extractor inside my garage, which is hoped to be used in my final decision on this setup. As, i have financial problem to grab full system from PZ, can u guys recommend me best exhaust setup for efficient performance/FC?

Few notable concerns:
1. should i change my piping size to any bigger?
2. y should i select straight bullet instead of spiral? what is the recommended inlet and outlet size for this?
3. does the bullet's location affect the torque/hp?
4. which muffler suit me best, as i'm looking for a deep bass sound (not too loud ofc)? does i have to find an exact inlet size as my piping as well?

Thanks sifus.
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1) Maintain your piping size
2) Since you are on manual, just go straight with the straight bullet
3) Yes
4) I would recommend you to take a good quality S-Flow muffler, not so loud but still have the bassy sound. It can be a little bigger than your piping for your top end (Your piping size should be 2", so a little bigger is okay)
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post Apr 4 2012, 11:45 PM

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For 4G18, best is to go 1.8" as well with the bullet~~

Even my modded 4G92P using back 1.8" piping
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post Apr 5 2012, 08:19 AM

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What mods have you done so far to your Waja?
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post Apr 8 2012, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(PedoJokerBear-XII @ Apr 7 2012, 07:24 PM)
1st, thanks _Buyer for your questions. Seems a lot similarity to my curiosity as well.

Anyway, as i read a few posts by shinjite and lowyat82 regarding his questions, I've tried to get some quotation from few local brands exhaust distributor and the price is shockingly, quite expensive as well.

By the way,

notworthy.gif low yat 82 did mention to check for some local brands' midbox such as topcat, matola etcs. Any specific reason to this? Are they really compatible with local made cars in Malaysia? inlet/outlet need to be the same as piping as well?
notworthy.gif how do we classify a good muffler? is it a must that the muffler inlet size needs to be the same size as piping or else will kacau the air flow? Btw, i saw some same inlet size with different body size. Is this affect as well? (pic included)

Thanks Otai2  icon_rolleyes.gif
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1. i asked few shops while requested for price quote, and they said that lowest exists inlet/outlet for campro is 1.8" which is the standard one, not the performance one. Is this true?
2. just joined LYN, as i'm so noob and penniless to fail on my 1st attempt.  whistling.gif

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Lets say if your piping is 1.8", using a bigger muffler like 2" is still okay, no problems
Not until too big like 2.3" or 2.5" for the muffler
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post Apr 9 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Apr 9 2012, 01:37 AM)
Heed shinjite advise. Muffler,midbox is okay, but not piping unless got other mod.
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How's your exhaust now? Have you changed?


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QUOTE(noct @ Apr 8 2012, 03:59 AM)
1st, like PedoJokerBear-XII thanks _Buyer for his questions. i have some question here. my car is an old honda accord ca1 and need to be change due to its rusty condition. so im planning to get a new exhaust system with good fc on it and less noise. my current engine is carb A18A with auto transmission. what is the recommended setting for it? if perodua and proton have hotbit, powerzone, marco what brand is suitable for old honda? TQ!
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Bro, I don't think there is a local aftermarket performance exhaust with reasonable price available for your engine....
Probably you can try kweng84's exhaust shop?

Maybe even Marco should be able to cater to your needs

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post Apr 26 2012, 02:42 PM

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If its me, for street, best is still a tuned length 4-2-1 header biggrin.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(saru04 @ Apr 28 2012, 12:12 AM)
Hey guys, anyone know the price for Superstreet Campro IAFM extractor?

I plan to change my extractor first, will. I feel any difference?

My car is Gen 2 1.6 Auto Campro IAFM engine.

Really need help on this.
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QUOTE(hkh_88 @ May 4 2012, 11:59 AM)
Hi all sifu,

- My setup 4-1 extractor with flexi, 2.5" center bullet ( from kweng84 ), HKS silent high power 3" + front to rear 2.5" piping. All parts is from kweng84 except the muffler bought at chop shop

Engine setup : 4G93 DOHC Duratech 272 degree Camshaft, Apex'i open pot

Problem : Exhaust got cracking sound after 4.5k rpm. Happen after change new extractor and piping and bullet. at first tot is the rear exhaust but after replace still happen. Checked no leaking. sien liao  sad.gif
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Bro, I feel that 2.5" is too big for your car setup, no offense smile.gif
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post May 5 2012, 08:29 PM

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How much HP and torque is your 4G93 DOHC outputting now with that setup and the Duratech 272 cams?

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post May 6 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(hkh_88 @ May 6 2012, 10:19 AM)
145hp on wheel. Torque not remember, hav to dig out my dyno chart.
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That is nice considering you only have cams and open pod filter
Which dyno machine did you go with?

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