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 Basic Intake and Exhaust Modification Guide, for normal aspirated cars v1.0

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post Feb 27 2007, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Feb 26 2007, 10:01 PM)
It's not about the exhaust being restrictive. This is a common mistake among people, back pressure doesnt contribute into producing more torque.

Actually, smaller exhausts leads to a faster exhaust gas speed(Bernoulli principle). When the exhaust is traveling out, it leaves a pocket of vacuum behind it. This pocket of vacuum makes it easier for the next pulse of exhaust gas to go out(less restriction). But this only works if the gases are in pulses(like in lo revs). As the gas moves out in a stream(higher revs), its useless so bigger exhausts produce more power.
Just as an example, have you ever thought why exhaust pipes of a bus is small?
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not small la, my schoolbus driver uses 3" pipings straight from the manifold laugh.gif

IMHO exhaust pipes are bent in a way so as to give better driveability at low revs <3k
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post Feb 27 2007, 10:29 AM

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bus of coz la... their engine so high displacement... duh~!!!

exhaust pipes are bent in certain ways to induce backpressure... so u can feel abit more torque at low revs... but too much backpressure will cause restriction and will decrease horsepower....
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post Feb 27 2007, 10:39 AM

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more restrictive exhaust=low end torque


less restrictive= shifts the torque to higher rpm,meaning u have to rev more to gain that torque = higher end top speed
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post Feb 27 2007, 11:23 AM

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A bent exhaust to induce backpressure is bad. I explained it in my previous post(the one kev da man replied to) and the effect is called 'scavenging'. Backpressure is the opposing force that tends to push the exhaust back to where it came from.

Having a restrictive exhaust will certainly reduce your power and torque output.
Have a little read:
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post Feb 27 2007, 11:38 AM

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very useful.thanks
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post Feb 27 2007, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(sledgehammer @ Feb 24 2007, 10:33 AM)
wanna ask the sifu all here.... smile.gif

for simple mod like a forumer here selling in automotive garage, the Mini Turbo, i understand that it actually provides auxilary intake for the engine.... but the auxilary intake actually bypass the maf or map sensors....

all cars come from manufacturer is tuned to run richer a little bit to prolong the engine life....
thus this gadget shd cause the engine to run a little leaner than stock....

so theoretically if the air fuel mixture is slightly leaner than stock after using mini turbo, will it cause any problem?

or the AF ratio will be more perfect (close to 14:1) after using this gadget? (since stock setting is always running richer than usual)
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Feb 27 2007, 11:23 AM)
A bent exhaust to induce backpressure is bad. I explained it in my previous post(the one kev da man replied to) and the effect is called 'scavenging'. Backpressure is the opposing force that tends to push the exhaust back to where it came from.

Having a restrictive exhaust will certainly reduce your power and torque output.
Have a little read:
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this article really clear my doubts! thumbup.gif
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post Feb 27 2007, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 27 2007, 10:29 AM)
bus of coz la... their engine so high displacement... duh~!!!

exhaust pipes are bent in certain ways to induce backpressure... so u can feel abit more torque at low revs... but too much backpressure will cause restriction and will decrease horsepower....
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actually im reply to tunertoobe when he was stating that bus exhausts are small la laugh.gif

hammy = from what i know those gizmos will make your AF ratio leaner, hence, the percieved power, but on highly tuned cars, i dont think they would work since tuned cards would have the leanest ratio in the 1st place.

and on the subject on whether AF is stoich, you'll need to consult a meter or SAFC for yourself tongue.gif
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post Feb 28 2007, 12:42 PM

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Depends on the capacity of the engine of the bus.
If it's a 10 litre 6 cylinder, imagine the size of the exhaust port.
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post Feb 28 2007, 04:29 PM

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That mean stock engine with bigger exhaust is useless eh?
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post Feb 28 2007, 04:36 PM

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I think not entirely. A big exhaust can give more horsepower, but your torque peak will arrive much later depending on how big your exhaust is. So you have to rev it more than usual to get more acceleration. You have to have a compromise.

Turboed cars are an exception to larger exhaust. You can read the reason in my previous post, in the spoiler.

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So i think need to choose the size wisely for the stock car or otherwise it go to waste
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post Mar 1 2007, 09:15 PM

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anyone can give me direction to exss work setapak?i wan to do my exhaust there
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Feb 28 2007, 05:09 PM)
So i think need to choose the size wisely for the stock car or otherwise it go to waste
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for the piping, just not more than 25% extra of ur current capacity can liao.
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catalytic converter...soulfly...which one is it?...i'm thinkin bout havin it removed for my saga but if i tell my local guy that term...he's gonna give me 'the look'....
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saga iswara dont have catalytic converter mah.... thats why the mech give u one kind look loh... the middle box is jz a midbox to resonate the exhaust sound....
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that's called a BIG BULLET tongue.gif BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
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anyway guyz... i was wondering is it ok anot with this setup... so trying to seek opinion... im driving a 4g18 waja(A) so wat im gona do is use zenden 4-2-1 extractor and replace the CAT with zenden extractor and the muffler use tanabe sflow muffler and the pipping im gona use stock.. btw.. can anyone tell me where to find the tanabe muffler in subang/sunway/kl or watever place la as long as its near subang area... so do give ur comment...
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post Mar 29 2007, 10:36 AM

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hey what's the best muffler for turbo engine n how many inch??now i'm using RSR mufller it's too quiet.wanna change to louder one
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QUOTE(spoon2272 @ Mar 29 2007, 10:36 AM)
hey what's the best muffler for turbo engine n how many inch??now i'm using RSR mufller it's too quiet.wanna change to louder one
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ur car cc?..u can try Trust evo for a deep husky sound or HKS super dragger for a deep bass sound...for a 1.8t u can try 2.5 inch...
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QUOTE(spoon2272 @ Mar 29 2007, 10:36 AM)
hey what's the best muffler for turbo engine n how many inch??now i'm using RSR mufller it's too quiet.wanna change to louder one
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HKS super drager will be a good idea but budget wise to play is Megaphone Dunks.

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