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 Saga / Iswara Owners Please Come in ~, just wonderin how many owners in LYN ~

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post Nov 3 2006, 06:23 PM

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is mine FC quite ok or it worse.... RM 0.14 per km?
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post Nov 6 2006, 11:13 PM

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better looks for the RM400 and above.i doubt about the cheaper one .
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post Nov 17 2006, 12:36 PM

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what the highest speed can achieved using 4th gear ? 130KM/h? 140KM/h ?
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post Nov 17 2006, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(feralee @ Nov 17 2006, 01:05 PM)
160kph
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at 5K ? 5.5K or more than 6K RPM ? sweat.gif
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post Nov 18 2006, 09:30 PM

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heh so i think my engine still running fine although its already 5 years...no rattling sound...no excessive vibration during idle...just like new tongue.gif yeahh it's scream like mad when i rev 5K-6K still i drive normally within the 2-3K RPM range.
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post Dec 3 2006, 07:27 PM

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how much to change the driveshaft for both side including workmanship ?
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post Dec 15 2006, 11:47 PM

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30-32 PSI.I'm on 185/R60/14.
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post Dec 17 2006, 12:15 AM

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anyone have ideas how to lower the NVH of our saga? i plan to remove the visors.mostly of the noise come from tyres,muffler,engine,and visors i suspect.
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 17 2006, 04:33 AM)
soundproofing... use dynamat if u have the budget... if not, superlon and bitumen strip will do the trick, but less effective...

another alternative, do autofoam on ur chassis... this will also increase ur chassis strength... smile.gif
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dynamat? laugh.gif its good but no budget yet.maybe i will change the tyres first when the time is ready,most of the noise comes from the tyres coz it is Astar Prima sweat.gif .others are still bearable.

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post Dec 27 2006, 11:17 AM

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my iswara the brake is feeling spongy,will changing the brake fluid solve this.i never changed the fluid before since 2002.
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post Dec 29 2006, 08:15 PM

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hahahaha.anyway how much are the costs to flush and fill up a new brake fluid and replacing worn out bushes?
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post Jan 14 2007, 08:16 PM

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my 5 years iswara never give problem in the engine parts,no rattling sound.only small minor problem like:

-faulty speedometer
-misallign front-right side window
-center lock problem
-hissing sound when speeding,higher NVH

others are wear and tear.just finish replace my brake system with new brake pad,brake disc,servo pump,brake shoes,and new dot 3 fluid.
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QUOTE(blackpc @ Jan 14 2007, 10:26 PM)
the 2nd problem, did u get to rectify it? i think mine started to run as well.
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not yet.anyway it can be fixed.right now just too lazy to bring it to the mechanic.
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post Jan 15 2007, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(snowflower @ Jan 15 2007, 11:00 AM)
I am Iswara driver.

The car is easy to have minor and problems. Eg car window not properly shut down, door could not shut well, hon could not work etc.

If it is being crashed with an imported car, especially Europe car, then my beloved car will be really pitty.

It is a bit fagile. However, it is one of the cheapest car in town.

Just worry about the second hand value of the car.
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i don't worry about the second hand value of this car bcoz it will never be sell by the real owner cum my father.it will be pass to the younger siblings when i can afford my own car.yeahh the saga/iswara is very fragile indeed.
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post Jan 17 2007, 11:39 PM

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right now is 2007,don't anyone realize this saga/iswara is way too old,4G13 with no EFI,still carb...VVT is out of the question...ermm when gonna proton released a hatchback/sedan around the 30K-40K price barrier or should proton use the savvy to be the sedan/hatch back for a new car model.the thing is for me all saga/iswara/ or wira model should not be produced anymore.even the stocks must be cleared right now although in reality it don't.how about proton does this:

30K-40K :A new sedan/hatchback let say maybe a sedan Neo or savvy
40K-60K:This will be waja,neo,and gen 2
>80K: maybe perdana replacement or mpv or what so ever.

for me the basic ideas all the models should not kill each other especially the price range.i think most of the customer wanna a good looking car,matching interior color,well balanced shape in term of look.besides in term of performance a 1.3 - 1.6 L engine should be OK,if proton can improve their quality and reliability,sure can sell like hot cake.to keep it simple my dream is too see proton made a model like a VIOS within the 40K range price as you know VIOS is kinda like poor man toyota,ermm maybe all these are
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post Jan 17 2007, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 17 2007, 11:45 PM)
business model....
why stop something that still have buyers ? there is still people out there (i mean lots of them) who dont need efi or wat ever crap. all they need is something for them to go to pasar pagi to buy vege.
u dont need abs, ebd, fuel injection, bla bla bla just to get you to the market right ?

example of business model
its like you are the boss of this supermarket. you sell this old-skool design tooth brush that still sells very hot. will you stop selling the tooth brush just because the design is old-skool ?

true proton is losing money, but at least this iswara range will help ease their negative cash flow slightly.
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i agree on that why stop something that give your money but improvement is always welcome right?do you want to see your competitors selling items much better than yours in same price range with your product.absolutely the customers will go for the better version with paying the same price.yeah you don't need a car with all the wizardy electronic complex mechanism just to go to market,fetch your pet,sending your child to school...but i think we should always move forward.maybe we just lack in RnD and money is the constraint.just my 2 cents.

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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 18 2007, 12:01 AM)
yeap, in the tooth brush model, yeah u need to improve yourself or risk losing out...

unfortunately its a different story for our car maker here. they have a protection in place and so they slack big time. i dont know how long more they can afford to slack, but one thing is for sure, time is really running out for them to buck up and come out with something that is comparable.

RnD and money is not their constraint. their big brother can spend millions just to make roti canai in space. so u think they got no money?
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maybe because there are too many idiots running on the management and strategy division compared to the brainy one.or maybe again they really failed to see their strength and weakness over their competitors.

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if money is not the problem,i think its worth.more responce in term of acceleration tongue.gif
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post Jan 18 2007, 08:06 PM

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its only hard when parking and drive at 20-30km/h tongue.gif but driving with power steering is more comfortable lorr...i also wanna install PS on my car...just getting the fund enough first tongue.gif
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QUOTE(apache_utara @ Jan 18 2007, 11:27 PM)
700 exact..
can get cheaper,
but far way places..
considering fuel+distance+time consuming,
might as well go for this shop..
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brand new set or recon? including labor charges? mind to tell me where's the workshop.

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