Can't go out, can't wash car, can't do anything Even food also order Piazza Hut delivery

Congratz V31, Congratz to YAB...

btw how's ur status now?

Put on your siggy enuff jor

i thought u got put ?

ya la ya la... my bad lor...

No sound yet. The sifu came and see already, she said gotta take awhile wor. She said this is just getting started.

Saw gaga with 4g13 engine in a workshop... Y 4g13? Why not mivec 1.6?

sudah mau hujan.....

good evening guys! walaoweh. i haven't finished reading v30, already v31 come out. btw, access using sister's lappy.
p/s: shocked found out new TS.

8.30pm tonight... dun ffk please...

Save roadtax

kejap aje

What so siok? nobody wanna do wholeday, you push me I push you. Since I'm waiting in labor also got nothing better to do, I do lar

who you refer to? btw, who's coming?

thanks bro david for taking over... got lots of assignment to rush and many events... so cant manage the thread well...

see attendance list on page 1... i believe more will come...

nowadays, tend to find red sawi. maybe it because of YAB's.

Unofficial review and comparison between SAGA BLM vs SAVVY. As usual, 1st paragraph was rubbish, you may skip.

Here is a detail write up to compare both cars. We all know the all new PROTON SAGA was developed from SAVVY chassis. Basically the entire undercarriage of both cars are 95% identical. On paper, their handling should not differ from each other much. Technically, wheelbase and chassis height will define the driveability/characteristic of the car. Before I own a Proton Saga BLM, Proton Savvy is like the arsenic of my head. Whenever I thought about it I feel shivering. Whenever I see it on the road, I feels like gonna get a torch and burn it. I just couldn't help myself from hating it so much until I refused to know it more, understand it more. After months(half a year of ownership of BLM to be exact) of consideration, I've decided to own another car since my Iswara is getting old. Not to mentioned maintenance(I have no issue with that), the insurance terms & condition is getting not worthy. If I go for comprehensive, the minimum sum insured is RM10,000. If I lost my car, I can only claim market value, which is RM2,500. By paying RM500 every year to protect 4/5 of the car price seems unwise. Moreover, the performance parts and sound system alone would worth more than the price an insurance would pay for the compensation of the car itself. I was suggested to get 3rd party insurance to continue to use that car, but its just simply not worthy. What if accident, who's gonna repair my car? What if stolen, I'm not getting a single penny of compensation. And the journey of having another Proton begun. So, I'll begin with my Proton Saga BLM.


I had a great opportunity to own a quite cheap Saga BLM 2010 second hand due to previous user not able to serve his loan repayment anymore. The time I got the car, mileage was 14000km++ only, but maintenance record is not provided. According to previous owner, he never serviced his car from Proton at all. Presume the warranty is void. I sent the agent to help me collect my car, ask them to service the car before I collect it. It was done with MOBIL engine oil(don't know what it type it was), battery already changed to something else from other car. Drained the petrol tank and filled up with fresh ESSO. The moment I got into the car, I was like holy mother bucker! This is a real deal! Plotong improved their production car's quality by 10 folds of their previous stuff. I was grateful for that little amount of money(3 years installment) to own such a high quality car is something really mind blowing. The car is very comfortable. Road feedback is "sufficient", steering is slightly heavier if compare to most power steering car. Hydraulic clutch makes it easier to disengage clutch. Foot work is marvelous, I mean it. This is the only car I owned so far with such comfortable footwork(besides of a BMW 328 I owned for a short while). The car already premoded with TRD V3 spoiler, I took the car up to 190kmh on NS Way, surprisingly there are still room to stretch further. A Kancil with turbo was trying to catch me whilst I was 120kph, I haven't even got chance to say hi, as I slam on the gas pedal, the car sprint right away and rev up to 6krpm in split second(on 5th gear). I can no longer see the Kancil from my rear view mirror anymore. High speed corner is very soft, kinda had the feeling of the car is not responsible for this kinda action. I took 80kmh uphill corner from S'ban hiway connect to MRR2, the car felt like going to flip anytime despite the rubbish M3 tyre still can stretch further. On my way home is a series of speed breaker, I can drive through 40kmh without braking at all. The feedback in cabin is relatively soft, can only heard of "tub, tub, tub" as I went through speed bumps. Rear window wasn't able to fully wind down on both side. So I dismantle the panel and check, found the windshield holder arm already fully retracted, so I wonder why Plotong designed the rear window such a silly way(was informed that was for child safety purposes later, but its not true, I will cover this part later). The round shaped LOTUS trademarked aircond vent is very efficient, can twist 360' blowing up/down/left/right/centre without issue. Aircond blower was marvelously powerful, even I switch to blower speed #1, rear passenger can still enjoy the cooling of the powerful SANDEN aircond. Also learnt that BLM stands for Base Line Model, which means don't expect much from it. I was impressed with such BLM can deliver such high quality vehicle for our pupils. There are rooms for improvement, such as when I'm searching for an ash tray to store coins, but there isn't. In exchange is a paper tray underneath the steering column. Tried to put coins there, but it was noisy and rattling coins sound very obvious. I also missed my Wira 1.6XL's storage compartment behind handbrake lever. There is only a cup holder there, so I had to find after market storage box and drilled it in. Other than these minor things, I'm quite satisfied with such a nice/powerful/comfortable car for so little price I pay. Many more improvement/upgrades I did to the car later on, but am not cover under this session.


As I switch on Youtube, I search for Proton Savvy review from Top Gear, and this is what I got

Ewwww! My eyes!!!! It was hideous! Nasty! Fugly to be exact! I still hate it, but as I scan through among all the reasonable price with newer(less aged) vehicle, besides of SAGA LMST a Savvy is the only car that I can afford. I wore my sunglasses, browse through a few of my usual used car dealers and look for suggestion. Not surprisingly, all of them gave me a piece of advice, which is stay the fuck away from that vinka! As I search through few other Savvy owners, some of the crying out loud saying how good their car is, but willing to let go at ultra cheap price. The worst is, 1 of the seller offered me a ride, as we got out from Connaught hiway, it seems the AMT having a huge trouble. The car slowly rolled down to road side, I can hear the engine revving speed goes up, but the car aint movin at all. As the seller shouting wanted to call me back for 2nd test drive, I quickly ran through the busy traffic and vanished. Never wanna look back. Until 1 day I saw this ugly car going for RM8000. Out of curiosity, I phone the seller and arranged a meetup for test drive. As I seen the car, I ALMOST did not vomited. The hood is faded, the headlamps are fogged, side seal already deformed, bits and dents everywhere. An inch thick of dirt on the car(interior as well), without even had a piece of floor mat. According to seller, previous owner's kid spill milk everywhere, those mat were thrown away for good. I took out the pollen filter, it was totally blocked. I had to dust it before I pur it back, otherwise I'll have to breathe dirth in the car later. As I start the engine, it sounded like the age old yellow black diesel taxi.

I didn't bother much about it, since its only RM8000. The moment I declutched, miracle happened. God the clutch is very-very heavy. It feels like driving an MITS EVO all wheel drive. The moment I release it, the car start to move slowly creeping forward. As I slam on the pedal.... O M F G! There isn't any throttle lag at all(if you compare with a bloody Campro engine). Engine revving speed is smooth but not as powerful as Campro. As I smack the gear lever to 2nd gear, I flick the clutch pedal and full throttle. We made some smoke on the street and launched all the way from Gombak exited Duke hi-way. On 3rd I squeeze it up to 120kph, but the engine noise is very loud. You'll probably think you got stuck inside a race car or something. As I slow down to 60kps, getting out from Duke, the steering action is so nice compare to my BLM. Its slightly heavier, but the road feedback is exactly like no hydraulic assistance. Don't get me wrong, the steering is still very comfortable in terms of turning force, it just that its very easy to negotiate turn, every inch of the tire contacted road surface has the feeling on your palm. As I negotiating a left turn, the right wheel being pressed, whereas inner wheel being release tension are all channel to the back of my hand. I know exactly how it the car will move as you go. As we get into residential area, I ran through a speed bump. The car was jumped up at 40kmh. It wasn't as comfortable as my BLM, but understandable since this is a hatchback car. As I twist and turning the car in the residential area, the steering had feedback almost everything to me. When we reached a slightly opened road with no traffic, I rev up the car and attack the last corner at 80kmh. It was marvelous as bodyroll is much less compare to my BLM. I did a heel an toe, no shiftshock at all back to 1st gear stuck at 5krpm, I continue slam on the gas pedal and make a full right turn. The front tyres squeel and emitting white smoke. The whole car being drag into a donut spin as counter steered and pull hand brake, the car produced a counter clockwise half moon spin and parked at the middle of the carpark(slightly senget already ). It was damn beautiful! Negotiation went smooth, and successfully bring the price down to RM7000. I bought the car and I'm a happy camper now Basically this is the review of rides and handling of Savvy. Below are the comparison and differences between a BLM and a SAVVY:

1) Aircond duct are different designed
2) There's small vent above the aircond duct on SAGA were not in use, can store tweeter, but you can't do that in Savvy. Those are the vent for external air circulation.
3) Savvy has feet vent and windshield anti fog vent, SAGA doesn't.
4) Savvy got a huge ash tray under the CD player, SAGA doesn't
5) Savvy got a stylish hand brake lever, SAGA doesn't. A magician told me it was to prevent during emergency grab wrong thing, such as those who put cell phone/wallet there might have this kinda problem.
6) Manual shift stick on Savvy is engaged in an H gate. You'll feel like driving a Ferrari.

7) The rear window couldn't fully wind down was original designed of Savvy. The rear door is was designed to be higher than the front, due to the wheel arch taken up some space. Therefore, the window arm was only designed to retract until that level, couldn't go down further or it will punch through the door locks. It's not designed for child safety reason, its laziness of redesigning.
8) Generally, my opinion for handling of Savvy is atleast 2 folds better than a BLM. The suspension was tuned to not as hard as FLX(SE), but performance was not compromise.
9) Wheel well is shallow, it has a problem to accommodate 195/55R15 just like any other BLM/FL SAGA. FLX(SE) overcame this by having stiff springs.
10) D4F engine in Savvy was reversed positioned. Intake infront, exhaust at firewall, hense the bad sound insulation comment on Savvy is worst than SAGA. The actual fact is, they're the same. D4F engine situated extremely close to firewall compare to Campro engine. As a result, centre of gravity in Savvy is much greater than a Saga. Take a look at below:


Currently, I'm still very new to Savvy, and many things waiting for me to fix before I can further compare between the 2 cars. I'm no particular bias since I own them both. If you ask me going for a family dinner, which car I prefer? Definitely my BLM. Gosh, I love that car so much On the other hand, if you ask me to be a bad ass... definitely my red devil, the devilish red Savvy I just bought.

On the side note, I just realized both of my Savvy rear absorber is leaking hydraulic fluid But it performed so well during my test drive, I didn't even notice it Could have asked for another few hundred bucks discount if I notice this earlier

this morning just self wash car. just now polish tyre.. just like want to go dating. makeup here, do hair etc.
mr. kenji, me early early get permit already. unless permit kena tarik balik.
fyi, i can't wait for tonight.

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Added on September 15, 2012, 5:15 pmi hope kiv rain drop today.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Sep 15 2012, 05:15 PM

Hiaz... wish can join you guys

we also wish YAB to come also. really missed YAB's hospitality. all members here are always in our heart.

Like last time, you should arrive half an hour earlier

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Added on September 15, 2012, 5:20 pmIf rain we go oldtown lor, no biggie.

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Added on September 15, 2012, 5:22 pmYou guai guai sit there wait BABYAB come out OK? I shall talk kok on your behalf tonite

This post has been edited by dares: Sep 15 2012, 05:22 PM

What you guys have for tonight?

gonna go hardware shop and find something... hmm...

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Added on September 15, 2012, 5:23 pmwadafaq... cheehong... issit really u ?

This post has been edited by kenjilew: Sep 15 2012, 05:23 PM