how about bumpy issue compare to triton

can share any experience of this latest model car

info from http://paultan.org/2012/08/09/mazda-bt-50-...#comment-805958

same as ford ranger. power-wise better than triton hilux etc..plus cheaper roadtax.

Yup but Mazda BT-50 is overall a better buy. At the same price you get more safety features available only on Ranger 3.2

is it? wow..didnt check bt-50..i thot almost the same as ranger.

http://paultan.org/2012/08/09/mazda-bt-50-...e-glenmarie-01/

Am also looking into ranger currently but the lack of 2.2 wildtrak really potong stim. The current XLT model don't have traction control and don't have dual zone climate aircond. It also lacks the hill assist.

what did you mean current XLT model don't have traction control and don't have dual zone climate aircond.

is refer to ranger or mazda bt50?

may i know any improvement in mazda bt50 2012 compare to previous version?

if u are comparing the specs between mazda bt50 2.2 and ford ranger 2.2,of course bt 50 wins
but i prefer the macho looks on ford ranger
gonna testdrive it this weekend

sure....i agree with you...should compare same specs, my trouble are mazda 2.2 and triton 2.5,
which one to choose?

The model XLT refers to the T6 Ford Ranger. Comparing both specs wise, obviously the bt-50 wins. First, you get the same engine and gearbox as the T6, and on top of that you get better safety features with the bt50. New engine, 6 speed gearbox.

XLT model don't have traction control. dont have dual zone climate. dun have hill assist.
these are all available in the bt50 auto variant.

the only downside of the bt50 is its look.
front is acceptable, rear is just..lol

This post has been edited by Icehart: Sep 14 2012, 09:23 PM

i dun own any,and still in a dilemma whether to buy pickup or car
fyi..i will use it for daily commuting with nothing to carry and no offroad

based on my study, triton offers good 2nd value but the design is quite old
spec wise shud go for bt50..the best spec for money..and cheaper roadtax oso

for look,i will choose ranger hehe

for this you need test drive
listen to your heart, not the comments here
but if i were you, ill take triton anytime
the service center and availability of spare parts

yeah i also want to choose ranger
now looking and waiting to see..i heard rumors SDAC will equip the 2.2 version with more features soon..but this is just rumor only. but what is confirmed is end of this year the ranger will have touch screen from ford and bluetooth as optional package. this is what i heard from SA.

interesting time ahead.
vnt hilux coming out on october (343 torque figure)
hilux dmax 2013 - colorado's twin brother, 470 figure for 2.8 diesel

i have choose between hilux, isuzu, triton, ford already...and choose triton 2.5 (M)

nowadays..want compare triton and mazda in bumpy issue

so how...have any experiences to share

the bumpiness issue is the main concern for me too
i know all pickups are bumpy,but i want to know which is the most comfort one

so far i know more comfort is triton...not know the mazda yet

how about new ford ranger vs triton bro
slightly or big different in terms of comfort n bumpiness?

i'm thinking to get the ranger

Wildtrack is the beast.. but the waiting list kill it anyway this batch of ranger reaching shore soon Let me test drive first and compare xD since my company have Triton too

i'm thinking to get the 2.2 bro..cheaper roadtax n fuel
dun need the wildtrak 3.2 power anyway

pls share ur review here
triton vs ranger in terms of comfort
so many people say that triton is the best

agree bro.... i also choose 2.2...

but triton have 2 years free maintenance, others car didn't have.... so sayang lah

Ford ranger and mazda bt 50 got 3 years free mantainance bro

Are you sure bro? I ask they say dont have..anyway this is my summary after test drive all pickups:

Colorado - RM 108k - Best and most equipped pick up. Leather seats and got all the fancy electronics - > TRC, EBD, ESP.. and most comfortable pick up of all time. If price is a big high suggest wait for 2013 dmax, same engine, same interior and hopefully same specs. got leather seats power seats. warranty 3 years.

Ranger - RM 95K - Interior looks nice, power is okay but lack TRC, LRD. Turbo lag is very annoying. interior comfort is second to colorado.

Triton - RM 106k - Interior looks just normal. Power wise ok, turbo lag still exist but much better than ford ranger. got traction control and the basic safety specs - > ebd, abs. comfort wise is behind ranger (for me). what i dont like the triton is that the information on trip such as fuel figure, distance from A-B that should be in the meter is positioned in the center console (much like old days Pajero).

Hilux - RM 98k - Probably the most underpowered trucks, but is acceptable as well. Comfort is probably the worst (lol ) but reliability and ease of spare parts is there. the introduction of vnt and intercooler will solve hilux's underpower problem.

Mazda - same as ranger for 95k with 3 more electronics.

Navara - RM 105k - Second best pulling power compared to Colorado. We tested on a steep hill and it pulls without much hesitation. VNT model, no turbo lag. But the interior is dull, boring and feels like a truck made in the 1990s.

My pick : Wait for Isuzu Dmax 2013. Same engine as Colorado 470NM engine yo

from newspaper... sinchew...

3 years free maintenance for Mazda CX-5....not know the mazda bt 5 have or not

Just came back from ford..no 3years free mantainance for ranger..only for their cars

Overall good pickup,but my wife can't stand the bumpiness isssue of pickup

To increase the comfortness of the pick up, once must replace the stock shock absorbers to a quality one, ie Gas shock or gas/oil base. and stabiliser bar as well.

have try to drive triton? any comment from your wife?

Kawan, 108k colorado is 2.8L . Thats a huge power gap compared to 2.2L and 2.5L. The smaller engine power plant relies entirely on the turbo to boost up the power, hence the turbo lag is obvious as day light. But as both car stays idle in a long jam, the 2.2L will fair better consumption as compared to the 2.8L. Road tax is much cheaper as well.

Which triton model have traction control? I've browse through the mitsubishi website and found none. EBD and ABS yes.

Comfort can mean alot of things. to me although the ride confort for Hilux is not great, but the passenger seats are. None of the contenders have come close. Even on triton's seat, I manage the feel the bare chassis skeleton when lying hard on the rear seats.

From the info I got, we will only get the 2.5 VNT and 3.0 VNT model of DMAX. No Bi-turbo 2.5L models will reach our shores. It's meant to cater for Europe folks which have stringent emission controls.

Yes but now I've heard that a software update on the Ranger will fix the turbo lag. Will have to visit Ford technical to check into it. The only downside of the Ford is the turbo lag, but if it can fix that then I think Ford is a great deal.

For the Triton, sorry I have no idea. I just relay what the SA told me. Didn't bother to check the official specification since I am not interested anyway.

Hmm, which Hilux you tested? Is it the 3.0 or the 2.5? I will test again to check on this.

Yes, I just receive the information from the SA. Seems like DMAX will only get the 320nm 2.5VGT version. Kind of disappointed.

no time to try bro

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Added on September 17, 2012, 8:48 pmif we change all these,can it really solve the bumpiness issue

This post has been edited by epie: Sep 17 2012, 08:48 PM

Pickup truck supposed to b bumpy....unless u put some 300kg of sand bag behind ur bed.....

ECU Firmware update? I doubt so. Even with rich injection, i doubt it will fix the problem. Unless the vane turns max direct and the car is generating boost during idle, then I think it should work. On the down side, alot of components may suffer premature failure due to the stress.

As far as I know on Malaysia market there's no traction control.

Generally the the 7th gen models have sedan seating. On 6th gen they have reasonable knee rooms but fall short on the back.

Well look on the bright side, at least it's still a reliable horse. But I think as of now BT-50 is a good truck. Until ofcourse 2.2 wildtrack is introduce. But I still like the mazda's interior. the center dash is much classy. Ranger is much driver oriented. The dash meters are futuristic but the center console feels cheap compared to BT-50

Apparently Ford Technician update the software to downshift the gear. They mention it is not a turbo lag but the gearbox shifting issue which has been resolved.

Hmm, I am not really fond of Mazda's rear look.

IMO, I find that it's lag because the power only comes above 2k. changing gear does not solve the issue of lag. The concept is to just make sure the engine runs within the optimum power band so that the occupants will not feel the lack of boost. But when the driver depresses the pedal and run sub 2k, you will feel the power loss. delaying the gear shift means there might be deterioration on the fuel consumption.

I thought that using a variable geometry turbo is to improve the torque range.

we know all pickup are bumpy.....but we discuss the least bumpy pickup

least bumpy to more bumpy

triton, isuzu, hilux

any one can put in mazda, ford and others pickup

least BUMPY....triton

BUMPY.....dmax, hilux

Others..Ranger,BT-50...no idea

my opinion only

so any friend can give comment of ranger, BT50....

I think Ranger > Triton.
The drive is almost like a sedan. Almost on par with an Altis.

This post has been edited by Icehart: Sep 19 2012, 09:18 PM

base on Icehart comment

least bumpy to more bumpy

ranger, triton, isuzu, hilux

where to put mazda bt 50?

and one qustion here

why mazda only offer 3 years free maintenance to

from mazda.com.my



but not included bt 50? why?

This post has been edited by cboys00: Sep 19 2012, 09:42 PM

Izzit applied to the auto transmission or both?
i had test drove a ranger manual 6 speed at SDAC PJ and doesnt felt any turbo lag.

what i can say it;
-low NVH inside the cabin.
- full features with voice command
- 6 speed both auto and manual.
- 2.2 diesel engine with higher torque.

Ford also offers 3+3 for their cars except Ranger.
No free service. Perhaps Mazda do that to boost their sales.
Frankly speaking, even though the bt-50 has better specs than the Ford, I'll rather go Ford than bt-50.

Hi, the model I test drive is auto model.
SDAC PJ should have the 2.2 wildtrak test drive model, did you test that?
Hmm, if that is the case then should be a gearbox issue Vervain?

here have mazda saleman, agent?.....push your company to 3+3 for bt50.....

Are you buying soon?

bro,
have u heard about the ranger jerking problem?
now i'm thinking twice to buy it

Yes I've heard about it too at Ford Ranger's Facebook. Seems many users are experiencing the same issue on 3rd gear. Let's see if Ford has any fixes on it. Keep waiting until VNT Hilux 2.5 is here. If by November Ford can't fix this issue, I'm going with Hilux with a peace of mind.

maybe i will get triton instead,got 2 years free mantainance summore
1 more thing about ranger is that they use fully synthetic oil @ 9liter and it will cost a bomb when servicing

anybody talk about madza BT50 3200CC AT

3.2L dissel seem powerful

not yet...still in observation of these 4 x4: mazda bt 50, and triton

Does this issue surface on BT-50 as well?

I think that's reasonable considering OCI is around 10k.

I am not sure, have not test drive bt-50 yet. My assumption is on the fact that they share almost everything in similar.

you wont get a hilux with a peace of mind.. the nightmare just begins.. because hilux is the most stolen pickup.. my neighbor bought 1 not more than a month and kena d..

why Hilux and 4x4 etc. always stolen ....

easy to sold off to thailand.

I has been test drive BT-50,

pick up was abit delay, with everything stock.

thinking first to change 16inch, 275,65/70, 16

wider abit make +grip.

Yeah I get what you meant. This is the risk of owning a Toyota or Honda in Malaysia.

Toyota after sales service suck..... Full with trainee..... And freaking arrogant...

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Added on September 23, 2012, 1:34 pmAny pick up that the turbo start to boost after 2k RPM is not fun to drive during traffic jammed but once you in the highway it will be different story. The reasons of this, is because they want to low down co2 emission and at the same time safe fuel when you driving in city. Mostly truck turbo start boost at 2k RPM or above. But if not mistaken i being told by SA that the Triton VGT Turbo will start boost at 1.8k RPM and during I test drive it. When i dis accelerated the truck I can hear the whistle sound almost like blow off sound. Quite powerful compare to ranger 2.2 or BT50. But of course is not fair to compare 2.5 to 2.2 but just my opinion i love the power on the Triton because i can feel the turbo boost abit earlier than the ranger or the Mazda. But interior of Triton is abit too simple compare to the Ford or Mazda truck. Abit of downside on the Mitsubishi.... But if you talking about the bumpiness of truck, this three truck is very comfortable on the road. Even Triton is the oldest among this three truck but i still very comfortable in there compare to Hilux because the Hilux feel like lorry absorber....

This post has been edited by TryX: Sep 23 2012, 01:51 PM

Because there's high demand on Middle east and other arab countries. Can fetch quite a good price by selling off there.

Actually I think that's the characteristics for diesel because the nature of the combustion happens due to self ignition compare to petrol engines which rely on spark plugs and you can play with ignition timing. From my knowledge diesel engines have no problem passing through co2 emission or CO (carbon monoxide). There are however other key gases which are much more concern that what you've mentioned.

Standard mitsu Pajero turbo will spool at 1.8k and reach peak boost easily around 2k above. Key design is the turbo is small. however, it will run out of breath at 4-4.5k. Meaning on highway, you will see 2.2 ranger coming closer via your rear view window.

i testdrove both ford ranger and triton yesterday
in term of comfort...triton is more superior

are u sure. iask ford.. only free labour geng

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This post has been edited by Icehart: Nov 14 2012, 11:43 PM

Hi guys,

Is there any proud owner of Mazda BT50 (new version ) here.
I am currently thinking on option between the twins ( Ford 2.2A XTL and Mazda BT50 2.2A.

Any valuable experience of the user Madza BT 50 interm, of

1. comfort (driving and passenger (rear) : comapred to pickup class of course
2. Auto 2.2 performance ? : Any vast performance advantage if manual 2.2?

Guys is mazda still selling the bt 50 2.2MT in malaysia.Saw otherwise on paultan. But the soec sheet us still available in mazda website. Pls help

Anyone know any good work shop that can replace Mazda BT50 auto 2014 engine. Mine need to replace the engine because foreman block broke already. None stop problem with Mazda BT50.

Anyone know any good work shop that can replace Mazda BT50 auto 2014 engine. Mine need to replace the engine because foreman block broke already. None stop problem with Mazda BT50.