like to share my experience in taman shamelin cheras service center. I have posted in the forum before that after i did my 2nd service there, my fc dropped significantly from 889km full tank to 730km. on that service, i also asked them to replace my wiper because the wiper always make a stain on my wind screen that blocking my screen.

on that day, a manager (edward) and engineer (Ah boy) is handle my service, the service just a normal service, but i notice they adjusted my brake, i thot that is normal so i just drive back. after 2 weeks of used, i realise my fc dropped so i drive back to sc. the manager edward told me ah boy is no longer working there and he will allocate another engineer for me to test my car. that engineer seems dont know anything about prius c and he plug in his device and start reading, we went out for test drive and he seems no idea on those running figure. and when stop, he just tell me, everything is normal.... (wtf...!) i asked him what is normal, which is the international figure that should prove "ok". he dont know how to answer my question and he told me he not sure what had been done on the car by the last engineer. (WTFx2!) i asked them it should be a standard service and why u all adjust my handbrake, and he tell me the brake also get adjusted... and he asked me to press the brake pedal lighter... (wtfx3!) i asked him to call the ah boy to explain,and he tell me he already resigned.... (wtfx4!!!) i asked him to adjust back everything, and he give me so many excuse and seems he dont know how to fix hybrid car...

what the hell all these about? the sc engineer only know how to change motor oil? contribute x10 more expensive on the workmanship just to get reply on they dont know how to fix back that they spoilted?! his reason is totally not acceptable!

after that i talk to their manager edward again and he said he will raise a case to hq and assign the so called "malaysia hybrid expert team" to diagnose my car. but the team only got 1 in malaysia. and the waiting time is "unknown". i asked him about the wiper issue, he straighaway tell me wiper no warranty, i tell him the wiper is a defect unit and it blocking my view because it will mark a rubber stan after each swap. he said he will put a polish on my windscreen but it have to take me whole day.. im thinking here, why polish my wind screen need a whole day?! it should be very straight forward by just wipe with a span right? it only take him 5 minutes to complete the job, i can guess he trying to make me trouble and want to give up the complaint. but nvm, i do have time, i said i will come tomorrow to do that. (i did come to fix it on tomorrow and he ask me to test for some days.)

after a weeks, i realises the situation doesn't get any better. i drive back after a month, i asked them to view on my car, the sc just reply me again "no warranty". this time i have no patient anymore, i straight away shout on the sc. i tell them u all asked me to come so many time and ask me to test it and return back when problem reoccured. now the problem happend and u just so easy to reply "no warranty?!" i also asked them how about the FC issue? why no people followup? the manager "Lim" just reply, it should be a driver behavior on fc issue... (i really going mad now). i asked them dont threat me like a dumb, i said i will report it to the toyota customer service center and put in the forum how is this sc threat their customer. that manager just reply me "it is your choice" (wtf...!) i asked him so what is should do now? he said he will help me personally to report to the HQ about my concern and will return a call to me after 1 week. thursday, i called them my self (after 12days passed), and the guy said will return call me asap. but.... until now still no call from anyone.

i think this is enough... i posted here and hope u all can see it. avoid TAMAN SHAMELIN CHERAS TOYOTA SERVICE CENTER!!!!!!!!!!
(owned by Wing Hin Motor Sdn Bhd)
reason?
1. they will spoils your prius.
2. they dont know how to fix your prius after they spoilt it.
3. they will threat u like dumb
4. the engineer in that SC only know how to change motor oil.
5. when u want to make complaint? they said they area okay, because toyota need them more than customer.

i do found few complain on the same service center, eg

http://www.nccc.org.my/v2/index.php/home/1...ntre?format=pdf


you should able to see how pro are them.

The Toyota SA told me that PC only running on 1 gear technology. That why we don't feel the change of gears like the others car. Here you are talking about the changing gears, so I am confuse and wondering who is right?    Anyone can enlighten me on this!!!  Thank you.....

timeonce: Thanks bro! This is the 2nd Hybrid car in my house. Actually this FC is my wife de. I just get my Civic Hybrid last Friday. Haha.....Suddenly add 2 Hybrid family member at almost same time.

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Consumer Reports Auto Reliability Survey: Prius C the most reliable vehicle -1

Consumer Reports Auto Reliability Survey: Prius C the most reliable vehicle  - 2

Consumer Reports Auto Reliability Survey: Prius C the most reliable vehicle -3
We bought the best car, some more it is assembled in Japan. 

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Added on October 31, 2012, 3:51 pm

Happy for you, the aqua blue is very eye catching!! The rubbish bin is definitely killing!

im looking into this car cos its techy, fuel saving and look nice.

and its within my budget. thats all. same goes to jazz.

the rest would be depending on how i feel when i drive the car.

anyways, would like to ask, any of u hear wind noise at 100kmh?

Got TRD Sportivo coming for prius C...

7k    that the price for traction battery that most ppl say need to change every five years 

I found this at facebook, selling the same thing Toyota is offering....

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151100238955649.503813.389966020648&type=1

must call to check out the price TRD set. The shop is at Shah Alam. Who know it might be selling cheaper.

Ran over a ditch tonight at Mex highway during heavy rain, following a iswara in front and tire burst! Luckily air bags didn't jump out. Have to stop by a rest station to change tire under the rain. Luckily keanutan and others told me that the jack is under passenger seat. Thanks guys!! 

So far no damage on car body. But worry got damage on bottom of the car or suspension, other than bring back SC, how to check?

Hopefully I am not the first one who change a PC tire in Malaysia. If I am the first one, the spare tire is damn heavy!!

Now I pity the Jazz Hybrid driver, I would have waited for tow truck if I am driving Jazz Hybrid.

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Added on November 4, 2012, 2:41 am

Consumer Report: Prius C the Most Reliable Car 2012 in US

With RM90500, you get
1. The most reliable car 2012 in US (MY PC and US PC come from same manufacturing plant)
2. 7 air bags
3. Vehicle Stability Control (not even Camry has it, only Accord highest spec, less than RM100k only Preve highest spec and other hybrid models have it)
4. 30% import tax and 75% excise duty exempted - you save 105% tax from MY government.
5. 1 tank RM60 for at least 700km.

Is PC worthy? you tell me.

Drive up genting with my wife last sept. Personaly I feel more powerful compare Vios ( FYI I drive Vios G limited 2011)
Easily over take a lot big car like 2000 cc car. But fc very high

Hi all,

Currently I'm using Toyota SEG 1.6M year 1999, since it is quite old, there are lot of noise in cabin, wear and tear everywhere, and not a comfortable ride enough for me. So, I went to test drive 5 cars recently, H City, H jazz Hybrid, Vios, Prius C and Elantra. Jazz and Elantra already dropped from the list.

So right now I am considering either:
1. Prius C (97k)
2. Vios G Limited (88k)
3. H City E (91k)

The main use of the car will be:
1. my everyday car to work at 10km distance with no traffic jam (in Kulim, Kedah)
2. once in a month I travels from Kulim to Kota Bharu thru Grik
3. once in a couple of monthI travels Kulim-KL thru PLUS highway

Cabin and trunk space is not a factor of choosing between those 3 cars. I am ok with Prius C space.
Regarding FC, also not a real factor, just a bonus for me if choosing a PC, since 9k cheaper for Vios OTR price compare to PC, equal to fuel saving for about 7 yrs of using PC.

Right now I really like PC, but the only concern is that, whether it is suitable for me to use it for travel between Kulim to KB, thru Gerik. The road in Gerik/Jeli is quite tough, lot of sharp corner, uphill and downhill. I need a very good acceleration car between 70-100kph to overtake slow lorry during uphill. During test drive, I realize PC have good acceleration from static but I didn't manage to try acceleration at high speed and during climbing uphill. Need you guys to share your experience driving this during uphill like cameron, karak highway, or Gerik.

Instead of acceleration during climbing uphill, other factors I'm looking for:
- A stable car at cornering around speed of 80-90kph.
- A comfortable and safe car for my family for long distance travel (not bumpy, smooth suspension, low wind/tires/engine noise in cabin)

Do you think I should go for PC instead of Vios or City taking into account the above factors? Is PC on par with Vios regarding uphill accelerate, noise insulation, and comfort ride?

What I like about PC compare to vios/city:
1. hi tech, 7 or 9 airbags and keyless.
2. CBU from Japan (IMO the quality is better from CKD, no?
3. no tax for hybrid cars, the SA told me, the original price is almost the same as camry if including tax
4. my wife like it, compact, easy to drive and park
5. The exterior looks is superb, sporty, aerodynamic. Not a dugong look like vios. Interior also better compare to vios IMO.
6. it is fun to see 20-30km/l in the MID after a journey.
7. got TRC and VSC compare to Vios.

thanks keanutan, conqu3ror and engah.

conqu3ror, u said PC is better than vios in every aspect other than space, means, it will do better than vios in uphill climbing? i see lot of vios do pretty good in uphill climbing at Gerik-Jeli road. I remember got few vios tapau my SEG on that tough road.

I already advertised my SEG for sale on mudah, autoworld and lowyat. hope to get buyer soon. trade in value is very low offered by toyota SA. I think I have to look for buyer myself.

engah, i already find few SA that offer extra 1k rebate, means i can get 6k discount for PC, plus full tank petrol, and 200-300 tint voucher.

finally, finished reading all pages in this v2 topic. huhuhu...
info regarding comparison between pc and vios performance, some said pc better and some said vios better. so, i just assume both are about the same, might felt differ due to individual factors.

one more aspect i didnt find anyone discussing it (or maybe i missed it), between vios and PC, which one is more silent in cabin, and which one is better handling at both cornering and highway high speed cruising?

My 2 cents on performance of PC vs Vios.

Vios 1.5 L engine, max output 109 PS, max torque 141 Nm. Easy, just engine.
PC is more complicated because the engine and motor interact with each other to produce total performance.

PC's max output
Although PC is using 1.5 L engine, it's running on Atkinson cycle, producing only 73 PS max output, which is way below Vios' max output (+1 to Kiding). Thus, hypothetically, if PC's motor or battery MATI, Vios will definitely outrun PC.
But with combination of the motor with appropriate battery level, the max output rises to 101 PS.

PC's max torque
This is lagi complicated, due to the eCVT compared to Vios' AT. Anyhow, the PC's electric motor generates more torque than Vios' engine - 169 Nm vs 141, not to mention the influence of engine's 111 Nm. Even the PC is heavier, the torque:car weight ratio still beats Vios (+1 to jscyl1980).

So,
PC max torque > Vios
Vios max output > PC

Which means, PC ACCELERATES faster than Vios (0-100 - 10.7 sec vs >11 sec); eCVT makes NO jerking acceleration, therefore smoother acceleration which leads to MISPERCEPTION of "no power to accelerate" (+1 to jscyl1980).
Vios' top speed higher than PC (this is theoretical, I dare not to experiment on my own in real life), thanks to PC's eCVT, PC's max 2nd motor generator RPM = wheel RPM, that's what some people say PC has 1 gear only.

BY theory, you can make use of PC's excessive max torque to increase the top speed by changing to bigger tyre, but this will sacrifice your acceleration. IF any of you know how to do the calculation, maybe you can switch the tyre size to tune PC to higher top speed and at the same time keeping faster acceleration than a Vios.

Conclusion, as a normal street user, I'll still say PC performs better than Vios because faster acceleration is more practical than top speed.

thank you deeplydeluded. really glad lot of frens here help to give me your opinion.

i also agree with you, faster acceleration is more important than top speed. my current car only one time i drive close to 180kph, just to test it, then i not dare to go more. i am not the super speedy type. 150kph in highway is enough for me, provided that the car is easy to reach 150kph.

Never try will never know. I got 600 bucks of fuel to burn every month from my company. So I better make good use of it. 

I m future to own PC owner, I heard from SA now got ready stock for certain colors how can long waiting list....

I goin to order after 18 next month.....

I m hesitating bcos too many older generation ppl means driver which is almost or above 50 are skeptical about Prius C technology.....bcos they believe the saving is not worth the money pay for the car......
Here got any veteran owner? how do you convince yourself? Maybe some sifu or tai kor can teach how to explain to this group of drivers.....
 

hi guys, im actually considering either take PC or Insight be4 CNY.

Im in dilemma now, so i have few questions in mind need u guys to help me ><

1. Average fuel consumption
2. Service schedule & cost
3. Joy of ride
4. Can rear seat fits 3 adult?

Would appreciated if can help me with this XD

TQ

I actually tired both, my hearts go 70% PC n the rest still with Insight.

I wondering how Eco n EV mode contribute to the fuel consumption, and does it cut the air con or any devices when its on?

Thanks again

i got my PC on Tuesday and had been driving round trip from Rawang to Cyberjaya for two days. Just wonder how's the hybrid synergy drive system works. I find that the petrol engine (orange arrow) keep kicks in (above 60km/hr) and very rarely coming out from the hybrid battery (green arrow). Is there something wrong with the way I drive?

What is the ideal fuel efficiency level? I see some of you manage to get above 30km/hr. How to do that?

usual kl drive / traffic
my foot can consider heavier than average

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Added on November 19, 2012, 11:36 am

That would be much appreciated!!!!
Thanks for the suggestion

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Added on November 19, 2012, 11:38 am

I think the eco mode doesn't work for me during normal drive, it's only at highway that it really save FC
otherwise, it's actually using more (just my impression)