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Chottadon
post Sep 13 2012, 02:30 PM


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Hi there,

I am having a lot of headache choosing which car the best.

My budget is below 70k.

I went through protons, toyota and nissan but cant decide which is the best.

Anyone recommend me?
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post Sep 13 2012, 02:32 PM


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Got 70K NEW Toyota/Nissan meh?? Cheapest naked VIOS also 70k++ i think.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 13 2012, 02:32 PM)
Got 70K NEW Toyota/Nissan meh?? Cheapest naked VIOS also 70k++ i think.
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I think he meant 2nd hand..


Added on September 13, 2012, 2:38 pmIf for proton, I think proton saga flx 1.6 se should be ok.. or myvi extreme 1.3... should be within your budget right..

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post Sep 13 2012, 02:47 PM


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Naza Citra?
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post Sep 13 2012, 02:50 PM


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If less than 80k?

My few choices were persona, waja, sentra, vios j, latio...

Any other that U would suggest man?

I would be using the car frequently.


Added on September 13, 2012, 2:51 pm
QUOTE(fookeesan @ Sep 13 2012, 02:47 PM)
Naza Citra?
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Prefer sedan actually.


Added on September 13, 2012, 2:54 pm
QUOTE(cruzeiro88 @ Sep 13 2012, 02:34 PM)
I think he meant 2nd hand..


Added on September 13, 2012, 2:38 pmIf for proton, I think proton saga flx 1.6 se should be ok.. or myvi extreme 1.3... should be within your budget right..
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Any suggestion for 2nd cars? Will 2nd vios be great?
I prefer cheaper( even though I know I am staying in Malaysia).

Won't be using so frequent. Maybe just 3days per week.



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QUOTE(Chottadon @ Sep 13 2012, 03:50 PM)
If less than 80k?

My few choices were persona, waja, sentra, vios j, latio...

Any other that U would suggest man?

I would be using the car frequently.


Added on September 13, 2012, 2:51 pm

Prefer sedan actually.
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New car under 80k? Let me think hmm.gif

City Car:
Hyundai i10, Suzuki Alto, Perodua Viva

Sub-compact Car:

Suzuki Swift, Toyota Vios, Mazda 2, Perodua Myvi, upcoming Nissan Almera

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post Sep 13 2012, 03:06 PM


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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Sep 13 2012, 03:00 PM)
New car under 80k? Let me think  hmm.gif

City Car:
Hyundai i10, Suzuki Alto, Perodua Viva

Sub-compact Car:

Suzuki Swift, Toyota Vios, Mazda 2, Perodua Myvi, upcoming Nissan Almera

Compact Car:
Proton Preve, Kia Forte
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Between Vios or almera?

Sorry man actually prefer sedan.

Just curious about persona, waja or sentra?
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if you are open to hatchbacks got ford fiesta and swift... otherwise vios or persona..
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post Sep 13 2012, 04:07 PM


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QUOTE(Chottadon @ Sep 13 2012, 02:50 PM)
If less than 80k?

My few choices were persona, waja, sentra, vios j, latio...

Any other that U would suggest man?

I would be using the car frequently.


Added on September 13, 2012, 2:51 pm

Prefer sedan actually.


Added on September 13, 2012, 2:54 pm

Any suggestion for 2nd cars? Will 2nd vios be great?
I prefer cheaper( even though I know I am staying in Malaysia).

Won't be using so frequent. Maybe just 3days per week.
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Toyota Vios -10 and below should be roughly around 70k and below... depends on transmission and spec also la...


Added on September 13, 2012, 4:10 pmbtw, avanza manual should price below 70k also right? correct me if I am wrong...

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post Sep 13 2012, 04:13 PM


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Up a bit only your budget can get VIOS J with 2 airbags. Manual 73K without discount, auto around 77K without discount. VIOS J = best car in Malaysia.
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post Sep 13 2012, 04:38 PM


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post Sep 13 2012, 04:42 PM


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QUOTE(cruzeiro88 @ Sep 13 2012, 04:07 PM)
Toyota Vios -10 and below should be roughly around 70k and below... depends on transmission and spec also la...


Added on September 13, 2012, 4:10 pmbtw, avanza manual should price below 70k also right? correct me if I am wrong...
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How bout the maintenance and durability?
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post Sep 13 2012, 04:59 PM


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QUOTE(Chottadon @ Sep 13 2012, 04:42 PM)
How bout the maintenance and durability?
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not sure bout that since Im not really owned one.. but as for durability, toyota brand should be good..
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post Sep 13 2012, 05:29 PM


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if u prefer sedan, go for vios bah
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QUOTE(Chottadon @ Sep 13 2012, 02:50 PM)
If less than 80k?

My few choices were persona, waja, sentra, vios j, latio...

Any other that U would suggest man?

I would be using the car frequently.


Added on September 13, 2012, 2:51 pm

Prefer sedan actually.


Added on September 13, 2012, 2:54 pm

Any suggestion for 2nd cars? Will 2nd vios be great?
I prefer cheaper( even though I know I am staying in Malaysia).

Won't be using so frequent. Maybe just 3days per week.
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Inspira 1.8 MT. I think 7xK only. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 13 2012, 07:10 PM


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QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 13 2012, 06:58 PM)
Inspira 1.8 MT. I think 7xK only.  rclxms.gif
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Nearing year end
U might be lucky enuf to get 9k discount
New car, manufactured 2011

Cheers mate

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post Sep 13 2012, 07:42 PM


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QUOTE(WilliamHoo @ Sep 13 2012, 07:10 PM)
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Nearing year end
U might be lucky enuf to get 9k discount
New car, manufactured 2011

Cheers mate
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Proton long term durability how man?

Planning a long term car...
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post Sep 13 2012, 07:45 PM


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70k why think so much?

sedan?

walk straight into proton and pick your color.
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post Sep 13 2012, 07:45 PM


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QUOTE(skydrake @ Sep 13 2012, 05:29 PM)
if u prefer sedan, go for vios bah
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How about long term? I read on other post that after few thousand km the maintenance very high?

Not really good with cars. =.=
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post Sep 13 2012, 07:50 PM


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All cars will have maintenance maaaa.. if u want cheap maintenance get viva laaa else use public transport tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zul_3231 @ Sep 13 2012, 07:50 PM)
All cars will have maintenance maaaa.. if u want cheap maintenance get viva laaa else use public transport  tongue.gif
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Lol public transport not helpful.

I meant how durability compare others how?

I am aiming for sedan, fuel saving and durable... Less cc oso nvrmind.
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post Sep 13 2012, 08:27 PM


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QUOTE(Chottadon @ Sep 13 2012, 07:42 PM)
Proton long term durability how man?

Planning a long term car...
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I got Savvy and Inspira. Savvy already 5 years. Still solid, hardly any problems. Inspira 1 year+, lovely. FC better than
my old shitty KIA Sephia. You got problems??
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QUOTE(Chottadon @ Sep 13 2012, 07:55 PM)
Lol public transport not helpful.

I meant how durability compare others how?

I am aiming for sedan, fuel saving and durable... Less cc oso nvrmind.
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Sedan,fuel saving and durable=Vios only bro!.don't think twice..others cars only drink fuel.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Chottadon @ Sep 13 2012, 07:45 PM)
How about long term? I read on other post that after few thousand km the maintenance very high?

Not really good with cars. =.=
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vios maintenance compare with other sedan.. terms of fuel & spare parts consider save $, very depending how u drive the car.. as u said 3 days a week. it won't be high for maintenance. this car suite to drive in the city slow n steady.

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post Sep 13 2012, 11:49 PM


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Brother... when you want fuel saving, only VIOS the best because it is very lighter compare to others. If you want good comfortable and safety sedan, then go for Forte / Inspira .. Really worth to buy...
Potong of course Preve.

I suggest you go there and test drive all .. then you know what you want.

And then, people always talking fuel saving ... and then only drive 500km per month or less.. what fuel saving you talking about? nothing much you save unless you drive more than 1500km-2000km mileage per month. Think twice fuel saving or comfortable or safely.
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Sep 13 2012, 07:45 PM)
70k why think so much?

sedan?

walk straight into proton and pick your color.
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but for below 70k budget... he cant get powerful preve and stylo inspira

should go to perodua showroom and pick myvi extreme 1.5 yellow color.. cheaper
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why not try preve. RM70k can get u the high end preve d ^^ .
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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Sep 13 2012, 11:49 PM)
Brother... when you want fuel saving, only VIOS the best because it is very lighter compare to others. If you want good comfortable and safety sedan, then go for Forte / Inspira .. Really worth to buy...
Potong of course Preve.

I suggest you go there and test drive all .. then you know what you want.

And then, people always talking fuel saving ... and then only drive 500km per month or less.. what fuel saving you talking about? nothing much you save unless you drive more than 1500km-2000km mileage per month. Think twice fuel saving or comfortable or safely.
Benedict is right.
HOW far are you driving 3 days a week .. outstation balik kampong or just town.
If you balik kampong every weekend say 200-300KM .. how fast will u be driving.
If you driving 160-180km/h for 200-300KM then u can forget about Vios no matter how reliable or durable.
I owned Vios G 2003, Vios E 2007 - speed above 120km/h hit small bump can fly liao.

Secondly, your 70K budget how is it derived. I hope you are not one of those crazy ppl that takes max loan and cannot sell their car cos outstanding bank loan > 2nd hand value for 9 years.
Rule of thumb constantly repeated in LYN - car purchase price should not exceed 1 year salary cos you still need to cater for fuel, maintenance, tyres, repairs, insurance etc


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QUOTE(skydrake @ Sep 13 2012, 10:16 PM)
vios maintenance compare with other sedan.. terms of fuel & spare parts consider save $, very depending how u drive the car.. as u said 3 days a week. it won't be high for maintenance. this car suite to drive in the city slow n steady.
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Thanks alot bro. Will be getting it next year.


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Sedan,fuel saving and durable=Vios only bro!.don't think twice..others cars only drink fuel.. tongue.gif
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Vios j should be right choice?


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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Sep 13 2012, 03:00 PM)
New car under 80k? Let me think  hmm.gif

City Car:
Hyundai i10, Suzuki Alto, Perodua Viva

Sub-compact Car:

Suzuki Swift, Toyota Vios, Mazda 2, Perodua Myvi, upcoming Nissan Almera

Compact Car:
Proton Preve, Kia Forte
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How bout almera man? Price?


Added on September 15, 2012, 8:43 am
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Up a bit only your budget can get VIOS J with 2 airbags. Manual 73K without discount, auto around 77K without discount. VIOS J = best car in Malaysia.
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Will get a manual...

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post Sep 15 2012, 09:21 AM


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QUOTE(Chottadon @ Sep 15 2012, 09:36 AM)
Thanks alot bro. Will be getting it next year.


Added on September 15, 2012, 8:39 am
Vios j should be right choice?


Added on September 15, 2012, 8:40 am
How bout almera man? Price?


Added on September 15, 2012, 8:43 am
Will get a manual...
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Almera haven't launched yet, only launch on next month.

Current speculation price is 70k to 85k.

Nissan Almera test drive by Paul Tan

If you look for Non-national Sedan at less than 80k you have Toyota Vios, Mazda 2, Peugeot 207 for you to consider. Or bigger size sedan, Kia Forte.

To me, if you able to stretch you budget some more and not care about resale value, you can consider Ford Fiesta Sedan at 83k+

Modern 6 speed Dual-Clutch Transmission, more powerful 1.6l engine, good handling, top notch safety features (7 airbags and have ESP + TC), Bluetooth Voice Control. IMO the most bang for buck sub-compact size sedan car.

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post Sep 15 2012, 09:39 AM


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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Sep 15 2012, 09:21 AM)
Almera haven't launched yet, only launch on next month.

Current speculation price is 70k to 85k.

Nissan Almera test drive by Paul Tan

If you look for Non-national Sedan at less than 80k you have Toyota Vios, Mazda 2, Peugeot 207 for you to consider. Or bigger size sedan, Kia Forte.

To me, if you able to stretch you budget some more and not care about resale value, you can consider Ford Fiesta Sedan at 83k+

Modern 6 speed Dual-Clutch Transmission, more powerful 1.6l engine, good handling, top notch safety features (7 airbags and have ESP + TC), IMO the most bang for buck sub-compact size sedan car.
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I wonder y so expensive. I wish came under 60k. When goverment want kurang harga..............
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Still dont understand why people thinking about VIOS. It is light car without any spec. That's why fuel saving. In other country, you will not find it. Because it just sell for ASIA countries that gov suck our blood with cheap car but sell with hell price. I guess this car if bring to US maybe sell with USD10k only.

Think of worth to buy sedan car... Inspira, Forte or Preve.

Personally, I owned Forte. I pay VIOS price but I get ALTIS or CIVIC range of car. smile.gif

Yes, the fuel saving (9-10L/100KM) is not as good as VIOS (8L/100KM). But since your just drive 3 days per week. Not much you can save.

I drive about 1500km-2000km per month. I decided to take the 'worth to buy' Forte and never regret because it really comfortable in driving and safety number one.

Go test drive Inspira / Forte / Vios .. before you make decision.

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You can consider the Peugeot 207 now. It's true the resale is bad but my suggestion is to buy this if you want to keep the car long like forever, so no loss on resale right? It's selling for less than 70K after discount now. High maintainence, no worries! Nasim is offering 5 years on parts and service, even the lubricants and plugs for regular service interval, that means you don't pay a cent for servicing for 5 years or 100,00 kms. So, for 5 years, you only fill in petrol. Also it has tiptronic gear and can drive in either auto or manually.

Vios, as popular as it is now, I think the car is fast (is this your main criteria?) for it's capacity, 1.5L ,it's because the car is made light. This segment is going continental now, wait till VW brings down their price slowly. Also you can consider the Proton Preve which is just a few Ks above your budget. I tried all that I mentioned even Nissan Sentra and Livinna X-gear. Still the most comfortable is Pug 207. Vios gives me no confidence as it is light (maybe I am used to heavier continentals) but that's just me.

Just as many others mentioned, the Kia Forte is a good buy for the price (that is if you don't think of resale. Many Malaysian buyers buys to sell their cars later tongue.gif ) Still, the Peugeot 207 is the best bet now, with it's offer.
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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Sep 16 2012, 08:21 AM)
Still dont understand why people thinking about VIOS. It is light car without any spec. That's why fuel saving. In other country, you will not find it. Because it just sell for ASIA countries that gov suck our blood with cheap car but sell with hell price. I guess this car if bring to US maybe sell with USD10k only.

Think of worth to buy sedan car... Inspira, Forte or Preve.

Personally, I owned Forte. I pay VIOS price but I get ALTIS or CIVIC range of car. smile.gif

Yes, the fuel saving (9-10L/100KM) is not as good as VIOS (8L/100KM). But since your just drive 3 days per week. Not much you can save.

I drive about 1500km-2000km per month. I decided to take the 'worth to buy' Forte and never regret because it really comfortable in driving and safety number one.

Go test drive Inspira / Forte / Vios .. before you make decision.
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1 quest bro, the forte same under kia and naza?
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QUOTE(Chottadon @ Sep 16 2012, 06:32 PM)
1 quest bro, the forte same under kia and naza?
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Forte is under Kia.

Naza is the distributor of Peugeot and Kia in Malaysia.

But somehow, when Forte arrive in Malaysia, Naza re-badge the Forte with Naza emblem.
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QUOTE(Chottadon @ Sep 16 2012, 05:32 PM)
1 quest bro, the forte same under kia and naza?
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You cannot expect the quality is as good as imported KIA. You know they assemble the car over here and something is not perfect. Same goes to Honda and Toyota.

Again, I want to remind you the FC is 9-10L/100KM for city drive. It is not high consider this is 1300KG car but sometimes just cant take it because still slightly higher than other car. If you seldom drive then you can take it. smile.gif
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2nd hand car can get Ford Focus at a very low price, even a relatively new 2009 car is very cheap.
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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Sep 13 2012, 04:13 PM)
Up a bit only your budget can get VIOS J with 2 airbags. Manual 73K without discount, auto around 77K without discount. VIOS J = best car in Malaysia.
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2 airbags only? Get Fiesta LX HB instead. 7 airbags. <70k.


Added on September 17, 2012, 12:39 pmThe Vios is offered in Europe. As Yaris. In the 3rd gen (Vios is 2nd gen). It costs around RM 32k (without taxes) and has 7 airbags and VSC. Add Malaysian taxes and you'll end up at 55k or so. (You will not get alloy wheels. Or a powerful engine. Or a radio. But you can go for higher spec, still cheaper than here, and they will have all those things.

The Vios was made crappy for the Malaysian market. It is not necessarily a horrible car (though the 2nd gen Euro spec Yaris wasn't great, in terms of interior, driving etc. it was easily beaten by a 2000 era Ford Fiesta).

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 17 2012, 12:33 PM)
2 airbags only? Get Fiesta LX HB instead. 7 airbags. <70k.


Added on September 17, 2012, 12:39 pmThe Vios is offered in Europe. As Yaris. In the 3rd gen (Vios is 2nd gen). It costs around RM 32k (without taxes) and has 7 airbags and VSC. Add Malaysian taxes and you'll end up at 55k or so. (You will not get alloy wheels. Or a powerful engine. Or a radio. But you can go for higher spec, still cheaper than here, and they will have all those things.

The Vios was made crappy for the Malaysian market. It is not necessarily a horrible car (though the 2nd gen Euro spec Yaris wasn't great, in terms of interior, driving etc. it was easily beaten by a 2000 era Ford Fiesta).
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True... but we need to consider maintenance and spare parts availability as well. You have more toyota service centers, more after market products for Vios compared to fiesta. Then of course Vios has the best resale value as well. I agree cars in Malaysia are expensive and equipped will minimal safety feature. Unless the gov lower tax we are forever stuck with overpriced cars in Msia. Election is coming soon. We will see...
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Yes, but as long as we buy T&H just for SC and spare parts they will never improve their cars. As long as no one buys the other brands they will never get to improve the spare part and SC situation. Also resale value will improve when there is more demand for these cars, which basically comes from there being more of the model on the road. Basically every time someone buys a certain car, he improves the resale value of the model.

If you live in some remote kampong, yes, I agree, probably just go with P1, P2 or T&H. But KL, JB etc.? Can drive conti... just put some pressure on the Japs.
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post Sep 19 2012, 01:48 AM


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QUOTE(zul_3231 @ Sep 13 2012, 09:00 PM)
Sedan,fuel saving and durable=Vios only bro!.don't think twice..others cars only drink fuel.. tongue.gif
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im looking for new car oso, maybe Inspira or Forte oe Preve, let see rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 24 2012, 02:48 PM


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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Sep 14 2012, 11:46 PM)
Benedict is right.
HOW far are you driving 3 days a week .. outstation balik kampong or just town.
If you  balik kampong every weekend say 200-300KM .. how fast will u be driving.
If you driving 160-180km/h for 200-300KM then u can forget about Vios no matter how reliable or durable.
I owned Vios G 2003, Vios E 2007 - speed above 120km/h hit small bump can fly liao.

Secondly, your 70K budget how is it derived. I hope you are not one of those crazy ppl that takes max loan and  cannot sell their car cos outstanding bank loan > 2nd hand value for 9 years.
Rule of thumb constantly repeated in LYN - car purchase price should not exceed 1 year salary cos you still need to cater for fuel, maintenance, tyres, repairs, insurance etc
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It would serve more like a family car for me n my bro.

Normally i will use 300-400km per month, depend on raining season alot.

In term of speed wont even go 140km. Normally 110km, max oso 130km if emergency


Added on September 24, 2012, 2:50 pm
QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 17 2012, 01:48 PM)
Yes, but as long as we buy T&H just for SC and spare parts they will never improve their cars. As long as no one buys the other brands they will never get to improve the spare part and SC situation. Also resale value will improve when there is more demand for these cars, which basically comes from there being more of the model on the road. Basically every time someone buys a certain car, he improves the resale value of the model.

If you live in some remote kampong, yes, I agree, probably just go with P1, P2 or T&H. But KL, JB etc.? Can drive conti... just put some pressure on the Japs.
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No kampung lar. Stay KK work Ipoh.

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