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HaRuaN.X
post Sep 13 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Sep 13 2012, 09:24 AM)
he's playing with AH too much, with my gold. sweat.gif
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adoii..ur bro still using ur gold arr...hehe..nvm, power also is becoz ur gold ma, so u got a share in that character.. whistling.gif
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post Sep 18 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Sep 18 2012, 05:33 PM)
barb thread seem very quiet lately... maybe all already quit.. lol
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all waiting 1.05 see how Barb flow go from there hmm.gif hehe
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post Sep 21 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Sep 20 2012, 12:23 PM)
just want to share my recent build.. block, block, block.. dodge and rend.. hahahaha.. love it

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/amirann...69/hero/4502359
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i'm gonna follow ur build..if i am to survive 1.05 monster power system hmm.gif

i cant WW since my control on that build is kinda bad..hehe...so will try stick to Axe & Sheild build and see how my survivality when the patch hits out (on the monster power setting & infernal mac)
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post Sep 21 2012, 02:30 PM

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2800++ STR drool.gif
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post Oct 3 2012, 10:30 AM

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Mornin Fellow LYN Members (Barbarians)...

Feedbacks on fellow Barbs that play PTR1.05...i cant play it due to certain restriction, but would love to read on those playing on it and their comments on the MP levels. Hope to use those players builds as a guide and benchmark when MP hits out on 1.05, i did search uTube..but those guys on it are wearing super uber gears...need to hear more from our own player community on Barbs on MP levels..

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post Oct 3 2012, 02:03 PM

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i think for barb mostly to survive higher MP will need WW build, coz i search uTube vids almost all 98% barb uses WW...aiyooo..and i cant WW that well doh.gif
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post Oct 4 2012, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Oct 3 2012, 07:28 PM)
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Just buy this ammy ,finally achieve 100k dps above unbuff , im happy with this
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100K shocking.gif wah lauu..unbuff lagi
HaRuaN.X
post Oct 4 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Oct 4 2012, 04:05 PM)
I was saw the higher dps plyer mostly low defensive, means low AR, low armor, HP below 40k, low DMG reduction...if u guys need go for PTR MP LEVEL defensive is very important for survive..

I saw in youtube one wiz cm tank had 100k dps also. He go for kill ghom boss in mp level10 need take a 5min no joke... u imagine think higher dps can survive longer u can from low defence....
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100K DPS need 5 minit kill Ghom...aduii... sweat.gif susah like this..think max will be playing at MP3-5 if like this
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post Oct 8 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(instrict_venus @ Oct 6 2012, 02:27 PM)
normal mob CAN drop legend. that the beauty 105, but on the high MP. IMO, 200k maybe can do MP10.
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sweat.gif uihhh...200K..dunno when i gonna reach that DPS
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post Oct 8 2012, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Oct 8 2012, 02:40 PM)
Seems like many fellow barbs are excited bout 105 and tweaking their build around. Nice to see so many diversity of builds and ideas ahead of 105. Will try my best to do highest MPlvl possible too with my 1H+SS build. Will switch to HOC + Strength/Vit/AR/LS belt in case survivability is an issue while sacrificing some DPS.

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drool.gif Yessshhh..Sheild Weilder notworthy.gif
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post Oct 14 2012, 01:28 AM

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Just Sharing, from Blizz Forum Site (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6864416737)

This is meant as a guide for fellow barbarian players to calculate their true damage output. The number shown on the character wrong is for the most part very inaccurate when assessing your damage output because RLTW and WW work on a breakpoint system instead of scaling linearly with IAS like conventional skills like frenzy. Certain items such as big 2H weapons will vastly inflate the number while ias does not inflate it enough. The purpose of this guide is to give players a way to calculate their true damage per second, run efficiency score which is how efficient their character is at gaining exp and items while running at the optimal monster power and finally battle efficiency score which somewhat similar to heroscore but with a more precise DPS calculation For those wishing to tackle the highest monster powers.

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True damage per second:
Tdps = [(.7 *M) + (.4833 * ({M+O} /2)) ]* t

.7 = .2 coefficient of RLTW * average number of tornadoes 3.5
.4883 = coefficient for combined weapon DW
M= average damage of mainhand weapon
O= average damage of offhand weapon
t = average ticks per second of both weapons

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Average damage can be calculated by uploading your armory here: http://www.d3rawr.com/c
Ticks per second can be calculated here: https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037344497

Note that you might need to calculate Tdps for both normal and “elite” damage as well.

EHP : Use d3prog for now we as it is not possible to elegantly factor LS,LS into EHP.

MS – Movespeed multiplier : [(armor ias/100 + 1) + (( wotb uptime % * 20)/100+1)+ (( sprint uptime % * 20)/100+1)]]

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RES - Run Efficiency Score: [ Tdps^(1/1.12) * [MS ^ (1/1.24)] * [EHP ^(1.45)] * [1.1 for axe/mace or * 1.39 for MW , 1 for all other weapons] * (1+ (ls * (3/10) ) ) *
(1+ [loh/2500] ) / ]1,000

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-Intended to measure how fast you can farm exp and items at the optimal monster power
-for the sake simplicity, EHP is heavily diminished here because it is assumed you can do your runs without deaths and the bases of DTWW begins with a level of defense that makes deaths rare or nonexistent. Any build where death is common should not even be considered for a RES score.
-The 1/1.24 is intended to diminish the effects of bonus MS ( 35.6 % multiplier at 84 MS) for the moment only gear based MS is measured as it is not possible to ask players to accurately assses their WOTB uptime. The flat score multiplier accounts for the fury generation of MW and the CC of axe/maces, other
-A measurable output would be xp/min kills/min

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BES - Battle efficiency score: { (Tdps * [ehp^(1.15)] * (1+ (ls * (3/10) ) ) *
(1+ [loh/2500] ) } /100,000]
-Intended for those planning on doing extremely high monster powers (8-10)
--The 1/1.5 is intended to diminish the effects of ehp as values far past 1.5m are not optimal even in mp 10

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WW/RLTW ias breakpoints and Tdps formulation are a product of Nubtro’s superb research and most of the data here would not be possible without his contributions. His thread can be found here:
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037344497


Added on October 14, 2012, 1:29 amCont from the dude post...

______________._..--<<//@#~~**Hall of the Berserker**~~#@\\>>--.._.________
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Remarkably high unbuffed TPDS scores with at least:
600 k EHP, 24 movespeed and 5-6 ls or 800-900 loh or a mix of both and 20k elite kills - [exceptions can be made for extreme t values / Tdps]
listed here:

Mace/Axe
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2. 891916 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Vinceco...6/hero/25195746 (-3ls)
3. 876,024 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DAKKON-6113/hero/8428604 (soj)
4. 701670 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/CaptAme...4/hero/16858339 (soj)
5. 668,770 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/acrimon...61/hero/4156386
6. 620,357 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Keik-1545/hero/22333222
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8.
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10. 526,412 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PhatPho...70/hero/3380844

Mighty weapon
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5. 509,555 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Lorenze...0/hero/21354995 (soj, +3 ls)
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______________._..--<<//@#~~**Hall of Heroes**~~#@\\>>--.._.__________
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Remarkably high BES - Battle efficiency scores are listed here, this is simply Tdps with EHP factored in and is intended for those running extremely high MP levels and roughly equal to heroscore or godliness level. Requirement: 3 ls or 800 loh or a mix of both , 12 MS, 25k elite kills.

1.
2.
3. 1,136,686 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DAKKON-6113/hero/8428604
4. 1,042,662 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/acrimon...61/hero/4156386
5. 833,101 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Vinceco...6/hero/25195746
6. 802,799 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Lorenze...0/hero/21354995 (mw)
7. 776,666 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/CaptAme...4/hero/16858339
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10.

______________._..--<<//@#~~**Hall of the Pathfinder**~~#@\\>>--.._.________
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Remarkably high RES - Run efficiency scores are listed here. This is a measure of your run efficiency - how fast you can gain exp and hunt items. Requirements: 5-6 ls 800-900 loh or a mix of both, 24 MS, t > 6, 30k elite kills.

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5. 1,071,429 https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Lorenze...0/hero/21354995 (soj)
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post Oct 15 2012, 04:15 PM

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i...am...slowly..submiting to the WW build..slowly gearing...will put up SS of stats to ask for comments from WW-masters...currently..still the same prob when i wanted to start WW..cant seem to get that fury in check, always running out of it..nvm, once i post it hope to receive some schooling from all the WW master notworthy.gif

p/s : still board & axe for MF farming gear for coming 1.05 MP4-5, reason i need to change is...i think in 1.05, for MP6 above, WW is quite viable, and fast killing, my current axe sheild build gear can tahan..but damn it takes forever to kill those champs/elites.
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post Oct 15 2012, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Oct 15 2012, 04:15 PM)
i...am...slowly..submiting to the WW build..slowly gearing...will put up SS of stats to ask for comments from WW-masters...currently..still the same prob when i wanted to start WW..cant seem to get that fury in check, always running out of it..nvm, once i post it hope to receive some schooling from all the WW master  notworthy.gif

p/s : still board & axe for MF farming gear for coming 1.05 MP4-5, reason i need to change is...i think in 1.05, for MP6 above, WW is quite viable, and fast killing, my current axe sheild build gear can tahan..but damn it takes forever to kill those champs/elites.
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Added on October 16, 2012, 11:13 amread the anouncement..1.05 arriving tomorrow morning...havent finish testing WW build, hope it wont change that much in 1.05, they say the only thing is adjusting to a new fury generation as it tend to deplete more offen.




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post Oct 18 2012, 09:39 AM

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Tried after work yesterday, comfortable A3/4 at MP5/6, surviving on/off at MP7, Death zerging at MP8....

Thank you aluene and present me for the feedback, need to improve my Crit Dmg, HP, more DPS and maybe add more LoH in the existing LS+LoH setup currently.

Problem for me in MP7 above is when facing certain champs/elite, the LS/LoH is not enough to cover the damage intake. Thinking whether its the LS/LoH or Armor or AR or IAS that need to be improve..

Fury regen no prob, just HP drain too fast in MP7 above when facing certain type elite/champs.

p/s: yesterday in A3 Keep dunno how many time die to the "Fire Longkang" due to either taking the fight too close to the fire trap, or happy happy walking on it..LoL..forgot its damage scale due to MP level, keep thinking like 1.04 doh.gif
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post Oct 18 2012, 02:33 PM

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does Higher IAS makes ur WW spin faster ? also does the small tornado (run like wind) hit more offen with higher IAS ?


suddenly wondering about it, if i at home already test it myself...
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post Oct 18 2012, 05:31 PM

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Thank You Aleune & instrict for the clarification...
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post Oct 27 2012, 07:21 PM

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I Wanna Trade...

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Any Barb here with if got Monk/Wiz other class wanna trade with almost same spec but with STR stat..(Gem exclude)

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post Oct 30 2012, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Oct 29 2012, 12:18 PM)
How much do u want for this item if u were to sell?  smile.gif
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Not sure about the price though, but i expect sumthing that can buy/trade with similar spec with STR affix.

sumthing like:

*DPS about same or slightly in the 1100+ range
*STR about 150+
*Socketed
*if possible, Low Fear Rate (optional)

Those interested, if u see any in AH/RMAH, can just buy it and trade with me, but pm me 1st before doing so to check the availability of the item.

Thank You.

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post Oct 31 2012, 11:44 AM

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-Answer Found- biggrin.gif

Btw..the Echo Fur still up for trade for those needing it for Dex/Int character.

Trade spec as per above post

TQ

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post Nov 2 2012, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Nov 2 2012, 12:20 PM)
i found an enchoning fury with 1231 dps 150dex and socket on yesterday, i also want to trade with stg version ,1 to ask  is it stg version more expensive or similar value ?  rclxub.gif
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i Keep getting Dex stuff....haiyaa... doh.gif

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