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Deckard Cain
post Feb 25 2013, 04:59 PM

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Guy's need some help on my barb. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Electro...9/hero/21990482 Doing whirlwind at the moment. Besides the gem. What else can I improve. I can do mp5 comfortably but 6 cannot tahan. Also, how much Hp and AR is sufficient. Thx in advance
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post Mar 13 2013, 07:02 PM

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Guys, I'm thinking of swtching to IK helm then use All Resist Witching Hour, I will gain DPS but will lose will lose 195 STR from my Immortal King's belt... You think worth it? To lose armor for DPS? http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Electro...9/hero/21990482

Also any suggestions where I can add more AR?
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post Mar 13 2013, 09:10 PM

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LS can gain from bloodlust passive or I switch to both weapons with LS. I think my issue is mostly AR and Vit. I was thinking if i switch to TWH, I will not lose AS from changing mempo to IK helm. Currently my Attack speed is 2.53. I want to maintain that Attack speed if possible. If i switch to IK helm, I'll be losing some AS and DPS. I can buy IK helm with AR as I have the funds to do so also I will be upgrading my IK chest possibly to 180 STR/Vit. I quite like mempo with with cc FUH... i'm not ready to spend that gold yet. lul.
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post Mar 13 2013, 11:47 PM

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@Gecko Yeah I think I will want to get new bindings and possibly chest armor with high vit/str. Lacuni's with AR costs a bomb.. I will check and see if it costs much.

@wlcling The TWH I do have one with 79AR and 99vit on my DH. Still weighing the thought of changing as I will be losing a big amount of Str from immortal king's belt. I think I'll use IK for now 1st till i have sufficient str stat to switch to TWH.

I think finding the right balance and trying not to spend too much is what I'm going for. I can ditch out a few hundred mil but I suppose I would also want to use the items that I already have to maximize my Barb just like my plans to use TWH that I currently have. What do you guys think about having 2 LS weapon instead. I like having EF but is it really important to have just for its Attack Speed since I already have 2.53AS which included EF of course. If not then I'll probably consider getting a rare weapon with stat/LS/open socket for my offhand instead. I have a few daggers but dps kinda low sadly..

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post Mar 14 2013, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Mar 14 2013, 12:58 AM)
noooooooo....

you're almost 350k unbuff, save the gold and head towards there!
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LOL. Wouldn't be too hard to reach 350K if i ditched eHP but at this point, maintaining eHP and hitting 350k unbuff is going to cost me a bomb. Maybe I'll do it later lar. For now, just playing around with barb. I think I need a break from LfB and spike traps for a while. Furthermore, I'm still waiting for that dream DML to pop up so while I'm waiting, just play around with barb 1st.
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post Mar 14 2013, 04:06 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Mar 14 2013, 01:06 AM)
Build a hybrid barb.
Fun to play.
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Yeah.. just trying to play around with barb and see what I can come up with. WW all the time also quite boring but I'm just starting out so if I get more better upgrades, I can afford to play different builds.

@2890 Yeah, waiting for that 12 - 14% bola DMG with 300 vit/dex . Still not out yet and the prices for those limited ones are at 2b which is WAYYYYY too much. You should roll maybe a Wiz? I quite like it. I might try Wiz after I'm done with barb. I got some socketed chantodo's and 400 DMG chatodo off hand that I'm saving up. Just in case I do roll a wiz.
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post Mar 14 2013, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Mar 14 2013, 11:22 AM)
guys.. any suggestion for my barbie.. hp drop to fast la when playing higher MP.. doh.gif  sweat.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FE3DOE-6358/hero/29238569
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FUH! ader str mempo lagi! kaya kaya... I think arrr.. I not pro lar but I run MP8 and my barb not that geared yet, I think your AS a abit low to benefit from tornado. I might be wrong but it seems that the faster your tornado ticks, the faster life steal return and higher damage you will inflict. I think so larrr.. that's is my understanding after reading the WW build and mechanics.
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post Mar 14 2013, 03:26 PM

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Yeah, rend build is kinda expensive isn't it? I've seen only top dogs use rend build. I will get there someday kekeke
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post Mar 14 2013, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Mar 14 2013, 03:52 PM)
not really, Rend barb focus weapon damage and of course CC & CD. can ignore the IAS and use frenzy (maniac) to increase attack speed and damage. usually i will focus on my frenzy to the max--> rend (bloodlust) to fill up my life, it feel like regen to keep standing on plague or desecrator. finally hota with max frenzy.

beside WoTb and battle rage still hav 1 more slot u can choose to use from sprint, overpower, or war cry.  laugh.gif

the best build for rend with skorn (ruby) for more weapon damage  laugh.gif
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The skorn must have LS or not? very mahal worr
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post Mar 14 2013, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Mar 14 2013, 05:26 PM)
if got 1, why not.. but for me 3% from belt + 3% from passive is good enough.. i still got 9% (if i not mistaken) from rend  laugh.gif
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What are the main requirements for Rend barb? You won't be moving much right? That means must have quite High HP, Resist and Amor.
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post Mar 15 2013, 01:26 AM

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I'm ok on MP8. I can clear it without a single death and I can kill pretty quick. The Attack speed that I have contributes a lot to staying alive. I WW once and the tick is so fast that my fury regen is insane to the point that I can HOTA non stop. My concern is farming mp10. That's my goal. I have gold to spend but I want to spend it wisely and make the right choices. Skorn on Mp10 works but the problem is fighting elites even in WW. I want to be able to play mp10 comfortably which means stacking AR and VIt + having above 200k dps. I have LS skorn with me but it's dex based. I think I'll give it a try. Just have to stack STR on other gears instead. I know who is that vid. If i'm not mistaken that's Mordran.. he has billion dollar gears and run on 100k hp. biggrin.gif

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post Mar 15 2013, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Madgeiser @ Mar 15 2013, 10:46 AM)
LOL! Just took a look at your barb, man you have crazy attack speed!
If me, i would probably ditch one of the mace and replace with a sword or dagger with socket. That should boost your damage.

I also notice you are missing a pants and ring, equipment sharing with other char or do you actually run without it?
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Equipment sharing. It's on my DH. biggrin.gif The other ring is trifecta and pants is Inna's temperance with 165 vit which adds up to more attack speed. Anyways, I've actually been eyeing on a sword but the prices are a bit steep at the moment. The AH is filled with it yet there's a lot of overpriced items. I'm going to take my time and try to bid for one without paying too much.
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post Mar 16 2013, 12:33 AM

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No need 1B to make a whirlwind barb. Mine's only 150M with patience and buying the right items.
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post Mar 17 2013, 05:17 PM

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I'm about there with that setup and yeah.. only 1 hit. I remember reading in the barb forum, this guy did an experiment. He stacked 700AR, 7K-8k Armor with 80k HP and a stormshield setup. If I can recall he said he could take 3 hits at most. 4th one death but of course that setup gimped his DPS.
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post Mar 22 2013, 08:42 PM

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yep. That one is defintiely my Leg drop just now when we were running. Exact spot... it's bugged
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post Mar 23 2013, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Mar 23 2013, 07:28 PM)
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SwSw-2890/hero/26101487

Out of boredom but the downside is can't kill elites. Just thrash mobs.
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Wah just started already so geared but can't kill elites? hmmm.. I think you have a nice set of IK's but I would personally got with 2 set only for set bonus and the rest for DPS and eHP so that I can kill elites on MP10 efficiently. Also, crafted gloves beats IK anytime unless of course you have a tri IK gloves lar.. that one I can't say anything but nice BARB anyways. Anyway, trash mobs are the ones dropping the legs most of the time if you're doing Keep2 farming.
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post Mar 23 2013, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Mar 23 2013, 07:59 PM)
nicely geared? no way man. I cincai assemble the barb within 1 day and the total cost is below 300m. Gems are from storage long time ago when I was flipping them for PVP and it was dirt cheap back then.

most expensive piece is the EF at 70m but apart from that, each piece is pretty cheap imo.

yeah can't kill elites and i don't really bother either. just take it for a spin when i'm bored with my DH.
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I don't kill elites either unless there's party play with the LYN guys. It's pretty cheap to assemble a decent barb unlike DH and with a small amount of DPS, can already run MP10. For farming, definitely barb for efficiency. Uber, have to use my DH coz my barb still not properly geared yet. What are you running with your barb? Keep 2?
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post Mar 23 2013, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Mar 23 2013, 08:14 PM)
Yeap keep 2 MP10 only. I can take one fallen maniac explosion but the worst thing is after they explode, a swift skull cleaver or those porcupines come whack you. =)

I wanna kill elites but i can't. It takes too long even with HOTA. Can't complain la.

Yeah farming thrash mobs with barb is fast and effective but I can't farm DE. =)

oh yeah, I was advised to go mempo, inna's too but then i'm sick of mempo n inna. and besides, i can keep berserker up with my AS and those two parts are expensive.
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Yeah the perks of having full IK set. I normally take less then 3M to clear Keep2. I use skorn and Rend lacerate. They normally drop dead like flies after kena WW and Rend Lacerate. What I do is WW 1-2 times then Rend and sprint to the next mob. Rinse and repeat till BAM ' 300 Monster Kill Bonus' lul. So I never have problem with WOTB.
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post Mar 23 2013, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Mar 23 2013, 08:35 PM)
^^ kill faster than ur dh ?
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Definitely... DH slowpoke, have to gloom, echoing blast, bola and move on to the next mob.. some more no sprint. The plus side is, DH kill elite easily on MP10. Just sentry, gloom and lay traps and wait for them to drop dead while hitting them with bola.
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post Mar 23 2013, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Mar 23 2013, 08:41 PM)
u need hybrid build , with hota  brows.gif
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I use hota if i want to kill elite. Definitely must use or not WW until my eye and hand oso sakit.. WW hota lar i tried. Rend Hota, err.. i have no patience. Its OP as hell. Can tank ELITEs but for me so use to moving with DH, i cannot stand and just rend hota the whole day. I want to try weapon throw though., that one very interesting brows.gif

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