I always thought barb gearing was simple but when I take builds into account WW or Rend Hota it becomes complicating balancing gear specs, survivability dps and tdps. 5 sets costs = and arm and a leg. I think the problem lies in barbs passive. Everyone is stuck with weapon masters and ruthless and only leaves 1 free slot for open passive. This is the problem. If I had 2 free slot, I could even use bloodthirst + brawler. How nice...

I run keep 2 most of the time and I feel brawler is very significant when it comes to dense areas. I think it will be very popular come 1.08 because of the mob density buff but TWH buff is really a big significant buff when it comes to tDPS. Yeah, AR TWH are expensive but they are definitely a must have if not using IK belt but I hate being forced to use bloodthirst which leaves me with no free passive slot. Would you say that TWH are better off for Skorn users as it leaves them with 1 free passive slot because of the high LS from it? I might go with IK in the end and spend a heap of gold on a solid ring to make up for the lost from not using TWH... tough one this one.

I finally went with IK belt as the pros really outweighs TWH. I think DPS can be gained easily on other gears but eHP is one tough one and the set bonus 60AR really leaves you with a lot of options. I was afraid I would lose AS but seeing after being buffed, I still ran at 2.96AS and that is a lot of AS. This leaves me space to get a high DPS GG ring which I am planning to get. With TWH and 2 hander, It's really hard to run with SoJ. You practically lose too much AR and unless you can craft ammy/glove with AR, the lost is too big. They say with HIGH AS you can WW on plague, arcane/ Desecrator, I ran at 3.04 and 500AR and I died. Not too mention the trouble of kiting them just to get out of Arcane/plague/ desecrator/ molten.. Also, brawler is just an example, what I'm stating is, it is good to have 1 free slot where you can play with different passives. I'm assuming now that all TWH users have to be stuck with Weapon Master+Ruthless+Bloodthirst and that's about it. The problem with having LS is it rolls with low dps if you take CD+OS+Stat unless you have billions to spare for that high dps ones. In the case of EF, it's either CD or LS. So, definitely one has to be a high DPS weapon. I am using SoJ at the moment. Still trying to find barb SoJ for a good price which is almost impossible.

@HaruanX Yeah I understand how skorn users have to opt for TWH mainly because of the AS. It's not like DH's, we have quivers that gives 20% AS and that is a big huge boost but it is painful to be stuck to that kind of gear because of low AS weapon. I like using duals as they are fun to play with and fast. Maybe because my main is a DH and i move around a lot

@present me Yeah i found it annoying as hell but the cold SoJ kinda counters it a bit. Makes them walk instead of running a mile away but EF is too good to not use.. for barb that is. It is OP with a ugly twist

yeah, I love rend blood when I use skorn. Just have to rend before being rend by elites but it's a good skill though. I actually got a superb deal earlier when I saw a 250 str 40vit IK belt with 10% bash damage for 40M! So i got it anyways but I'm going to get a 60-70AR TWH as well. I think I'm going to try and run with 450AR - 500. According to those guys at barb forum in D3, they say np if have high vit.

Yeah, I actually did extensive test with 500 vs 600 AR and IK vs TWH and the result was pretty good and quite surprising. With TWH at 520 AR, I could stand on plague/desecrator and not die from the amount of AS which leads to really fast life regen. So finally I went for TWH with 148 str, 64AR, 9AS and 50CD which really gave me a great tdps buff. I finally hit 2.168 tdps vs elite with 650k eHP which I think I can still improve on my other gears. I still keep my IK belt so that I can play around with both. Now for a GG ring and a Mempo with CC. Both are definitely going to cost me a bomb.. ouch

Well, it's always good to have mitigation but if I'm not dying means I'm doing ok. Maybe shielded mobs will give me a harder time. Haven't tried yet but with cold SoJ and WW, I'm not having any difficulties. Also, depending on my luck with crafting. If I get a trifecta glove/ammy with AR, definitely a big bonus.

Yeah. For me it's ammy/bracers and gloves. If only i can get 70AR on my gloves. What a blessing. I've seen some really lucky punters with 250str, 70 ar and trifecta on gloves. So jelly. I've never tried calculation with Razorspikes bracers. Gonna try and see what the results are. Sure bump up eHP if get high str with vit ar and 6.0cc. I can survive 1 fallen maniac. 2nd bombing, confirm R.I.P

Never noticed it. Maybe it's a bug and doesn't really show the actual no. Never heard anyone complain about it

I went with both actually . I got an IK with 250str and 40vit for 50M which was a damn good deal considering it had bash 10%, then I thought what the hell, get the TWH as well. So I'm playing with both just for the fun of it. I much prefer TWH. With TWH, i'm able to do 2.167M tdps vs Elite so and that's combo'd with SoJ and still have 799eHP (diabloprogress) so all is well. With TWH I finally hit 3.2APS buffed and it is huge. Just a few more upgrades to go I guess. Thinking of ditching Lacuni's and going for crafted bracers next. I'm keeping the IK just in case I'm doing group runs which I might need more AR. So bracer, chest armor, GG ring, Mempo with CC and hopefully a better ammy

Yeah, that's going to be a big issue. Losing MS. That is if I can perma WOTB which so far is ok for me Dual Wielding. Btw, were you the one that crafted the epic Chest Armor? Was it Vit or Str Archon? There's a lot more upgrades to do and so little funds unless I actually decide to sell of my DH gear which would fetch me a couple of billions

@wlcling Yup definitely a bug. I'm sure its being reported and will take another year just to fix it as usual

LUL. Yeah they might but I don't do pvp lerr.. Not D3 but I do GuildWars 2 pvp though. I'm going to wait out and see what kind of buffs they have for DH. If it's shitty, it's either I sell all my DH gear and super gear my barb or my actual plans which is to move my DH gear to my upcoming monk which I plan to play once I hit Plvl100 on my barb.

Yeah, still not sure about how monk works but my guess was yeah, high CC and IAS. I see some using skorn and some using Duals. Not sure yet. I do have to buy some gear though for some added AR and also weapon. Still need to spend some more. LUL..

This one must call Sherlock Holmes di... Never encountered this before

Yep that's definitely the one and it's still pretty damn good. Of course IK can roll with a lot more Vit but still, it would've cost and arm and a leg. How many have you crafted so far?

Did u craft few hundreds in 1 go? That's about 105M for 700..

I might try vit version. Armor's tough. Socket is 1 issue, there's also AR and High vit to try roll and the cost *gulp* 150k a pop

I was thinking of going Mighty Weapon as offhand after seeing some of those crazy DPS high end barb. For some reason they use Bul Khatos for offhand. DPS buffed I see 550k to 600k dps... Are you playing to DW Bul Khatos? I think the bonus for mighty weapon not so good coz it only gives fury regen. Axe/ Mace still the better choice.

I want to craft ammy for my Barb but I scared of losing my 180vit.. gear with vit so mahal... Btw, tried 100 Str armor.. all fail.. some came with 250 str 200 vit but 70+ AR but NO SOCKET.. aduhh.. armor really tough

What item was your 1 hit wonder?

@HaRuaN.X

Yeah, I think If I did sell them, I would be able to really gear up my barb. Still deciding. I got some really good offers for some of my DH items but I want to see if they make any buff on DH. If they do and it's good, I'll keep my DH. For now I'm quite happy with my barb as I spent very little on him. The EF was the most expensive Item i bought for barbie followed by TWH. The mainhand luckily i sniped it at 100M only. Ring's I got from my DH farming except for the SoJ which I got for 5M. Lacuni's also cost me quite a bit but all in all, quite happy with the results. Just a few minor upgrades which is going to cost.. billions....Mempo with cc and higher vit IK chest and GG ring..

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Apr 18 2013, 02:57 PM