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Deckard Cain
post Apr 29 2013, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Apr 29 2013, 06:37 PM)
a lot of high end barb don't use Ik belt and LS passive , but most of the dh  use and I can say 90% above dh use gloom except pvp dh  , for me 1 LS off hand with 2.6 % is enuf already , ik belt is good but u will feel something missing compare to TWH
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yeah.. IK belt is memang good especially if got set bonus but lose a lot of DPS from there. I used to use IK set and it's still good but I feel TWH really makes a big difference. I also running the same with 2.6% + passive. Cukup makan. If use IK belt + LS from weapon .. passive got 1 free slot which i think its an advantage in case want to use brawler or something.
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post Apr 29 2013, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Apr 29 2013, 06:51 PM)
I love my WW Barb!!! tongue.gif
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LUL i love the CC mempo on your barb. kekekeke. I oso love WW rclxms.gif
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post Apr 29 2013, 07:10 PM

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I think where skorn really shines is the bleed effect and when you rend, it's based on weapon damage so 1400dps skorn.. FUH sakit. I think with enough APS, memang power with skorn no doubt but see this vid. If you see his profile, you'll be shocked. He doesn't have that 40B gold gear. It's not like he's one of the top barbs some more but amazing use of DW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J82U7-WmhOg&feature=youtu.be

His profile :

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Death-1408/hero/3692684

Respect man this guy coz he doesn't use the famous duped Teeming Necklace ammy or Rugged faze ring.
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post Apr 29 2013, 07:39 PM

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Yep, he's got damn nice setup. Btw, just wondering, some of us memang WOTB kaki larrr so if or when they do nerf it, what build would you be going for? I guess WW not so power di...
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post Apr 29 2013, 09:00 PM

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I have a feeling Shields might make a comeback. I guess for now I only think of HOTA Rend and use WOTB only against elite.. but to get good dps with shield is sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif ... Not too mention shield with CC also sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif . Must ask amiranna to tunjuk ajar how to use SnB build.

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post Apr 30 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Gecko @ Apr 30 2013, 12:13 PM)
syok until u meet elite pack with affixes: waller, plague, desecrator/molten, arcane .. lolz
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If got WOTB not so bad.. wait till kena nerf di baru tahu sakit with DW.. kekeke..

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no need to tunjuk ajar la.. my build is very simple, everyone can do it.. my built is easy "AR*10= Armor*10=life" 


Your build not so easy as I thinks, lagi lagi nak control fury without WW... fuh.. another thing is AR 10 + Armor 10 = life = lots of $$$ sweat.gif


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post Apr 30 2013, 01:28 PM

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I see they use no fury generator build with WW,HOTA, REND that means no primary attack with bash, cleave or frenzy.. susah worrr... yeah hit few times and kena hit then battle rage and WW but when try, fuh... sometimes mati oso.. not to mention have to control fury to make sure after kill Elite still got fury to sprint. Some more want to maintain WOTB.. this one really need lots of practise to get used to..
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post Apr 30 2013, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Apr 30 2013, 02:03 PM)
yah thats why i find it so hard to get wotb active with skorn. can only depend on slow ww ticks for fury. but now want to add back a main attk fury generator my fingers cannot coordinate already... lol now just do dw but stick with wwhotarend combo...the ww easy to generate fury..
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yeah I think it's much easier with DW but if 1st pack is elite... sweat.gif sweat.gif Sometimes go in K2 1st pack already kena elite.. lul.. no time to battle rage oredi mati. kekeke.. but the build is good coz it maximizes all pure damage skill.. Elite also melt faster. I just don't like the HOTA part coz no HOTA SoJ. I tend to over HOTA sometimes till no fury left after they die.. must budget budget
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post Apr 30 2013, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Apr 30 2013, 02:23 PM)
i usually do this.. max out my frenzy, Rend and start Hota.. will switch back to frenzy to maintain 5 stack of my frenzy and wotb, so in order to keep this need to sync left and right click .. repeat step, Frenzy, rend (if rend effect finish) and hota until elite KO.. lol
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Just want to ask you, for SnB, I see you pick sword is it because of Passive weapon damage or because sword is faster? If mighty weapon or axe ok or not? Also, correct me if i'm wrong but your build based mostly on CC and CD or AS also very important
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post Apr 30 2013, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Apr 30 2013, 02:08 PM)
but i see those p100 barbs they will use frenzy +4%dmg.. not easy to coordinate man... who said barbs just mash buttons? not true mangz!

start of each match have to frenzy 5 times, sprint, ww, hota, frenzy, sprint, ww, battle rage, hota, frenzy... need to time everything properly for fury and max dps output
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Yeah it's actually quite hard to co-ordinate but I wonder why use frenzy when Bash Punish also can stack to 3 times with 8% damage. Is it because the duration of frenzy has no limit and also the 75% increase AS?
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post Apr 30 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Apr 30 2013, 04:46 PM)
Jom2x!! i TR to another place while u kill them..hahaha
maintenance xde ma today. last 2weeks they do so much maintenance already kan??  hmm.gif
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Ader lerr.. 8jam.. patch 1.08 kutt

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post Apr 30 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Apr 30 2013, 04:57 PM)
hopefully 1.08 but don't think so..
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I think it is!!! time to WW for the WIN!
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post May 1 2013, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(bob_afdlin @ May 1 2013, 01:19 PM)
Guys..As a barb, which one do you prefer?

+DAMAGE

or

+LIFE

Why? Becoz a lot of item, when it has +LIFE it will have -DAMAGE. Vice versa..
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Priority is survival 1st then DPS next. There's always away around it. For instance, I craft vit shoulders to cover my Vit so that I have sufficient HP then the rest of my gear, I can purchase without vit and concentrate on STR for DPS. It's up to you to play around with your setup. If you rich brows.gif then buy everything with high str and high vit brows.gif


Now trying to practise build with no Fury generator. I use unforgiving passive with Rend and Overpower. I see elite melt so fast. Much better then Hota coz i don't have SoJ with Hota.

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post May 1 2013, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ May 1 2013, 02:48 PM)
EHP>>>>DPS for me... dont worry about item price.. starter gears are damn cheap now..

i build this Barb this morning: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sabenar...6/hero/22620930 with less than 1 mill gold.. he has enough EHP and DPS to clear MP3-4..

just remember:

- shoulder, chest, pants, boot are your main EHP slots..
- weapons, rings, amulet, gloves are DPS slots

avoid stack EHP stats on DPS slot unless u are rich/get a nice deal..
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You memang good at building low budget gear, I saw the DPS and eHP also good arr. Do you bid for the items or buyout memang cheap.
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post May 1 2013, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ May 1 2013, 03:29 PM)
50% bid, 50% b/o.. most expensive is EF, 500k gold... I always sad see new barb using cheap IK chest + Inna pants.. both are horrible in EHP....
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Yeah, I think because they always look at ppl's profile and see most barbs gearing up that way so they feel that this is the way barb should gear up. That's why you see a lot of post complaining how come they can't do this mp and that mp. There's so many posts about builds but I haven't seen one about gearing. Maybe there's one buried somewhere in the barb forums.
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post May 1 2013, 06:02 PM

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Read his post. It kind of makes sense that he advises not to use BK so that you don't have to spend so much more gearing up for mp10 but then again, inna's with high vit ain't cheap and so are ice climbers with hi str/vit. BK I think ok for low to mid tier as it is dirt cheap so if you upgrade, even if you brim the BK, tak rasa sakit
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post May 1 2013, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(bob_afdlin @ May 1 2013, 06:31 PM)
aiyoo.. i noobie.. pening baca..

What is EHP? BK? EF?
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eHp is effective hit points = the amount of raw damage that you can take before you die. So simply means the lower your eHP the faster you die or the lower defence you have against damage

BT not BK ( typo error ) = Blackthorne's set. Comes with 100 vitality bonus when you wear 2 set and comes with All Resist as well. Its a good entry level set for beginners because it is cheap and increases your eHP by a big amount.

EF well Echoing Fury weapon.

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post May 2 2013, 11:06 PM

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What to do. Those mastercard for the win guys will pay whatever it takes to get perfect stat gears.. Even up to USD800-1000 just for an almost perfect mempo I heard. That money can feed hungry children..
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post May 3 2013, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ May 3 2013, 11:00 AM)
I saw your post in that topicĀ  tongue.gif lol the seller promise to give donation btw..
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LOL! yeah!!! must let this ppl aware a bit. If you're gonna make so much out of virtual items, at least use the money to donate a bit. I'm not a saint but at least I do my part by making donations to UNICEF. It's only RM50 every month to feed starving kids. That guy must've felt really bad after I said that. kekeke

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its like that Deck, there are player wiling to pay for the perfection, sometimes the stat difference only 1-3 only, like bro Wlcling said, 1% element/elite difference in SoJ also the price difference like sky and earth (langit dan bumi..errr sry direct translate, my england not powderfull) ...same case with the top STR mempo now..few STR stat difference, but there is player wiling to pay beribu ribu lemon for it.

edit : added link Top STR Mempo, read from reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/1d...sold_this_week/


Sadly it's this players that make the it hard for lower tier players to upgrade. They are willing to spend hence making AH Mafios buyout everything and raise the price. They are encouraging overpriced items but they are the ones complaining about the the prices of items. doh.gif


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post May 3 2013, 02:10 PM

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I don't know why they want to put a 5M pricetag just to unsocket marq.. its stupid as hell. The cost of making one is already so costly but they still punish players for unsocketing it.. *sigh*.. what are they thinking

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