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Deckard Cain
post Apr 26 2013, 06:49 PM

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MASTERCARD FOR THE WIN!
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post Apr 27 2013, 01:02 PM

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Luckily he was not wearing Rugged Faze ring. Or else he completes the DUPED barb of the year contest. I'm sure all this dupers are laughing their a$$es off coz all this ppl are feeding good $$$
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post Apr 27 2013, 01:47 PM

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WOW. I don't know where to start. A lot of gear needs some serious upgrades. 1st of all, the most important thing to ensure is your survivability meaning having sufficient AR, armor and HP. Without those, you'd be dying so much there's no point farming higher MP. 2nd, don't worry too much about DPS. 3rd, I guess you're going for WW build so you should at least know the basic of what you need to make WW effective.

I have a few spare barb items that you can borrow 1st. Add me in game Electroclash#6469. Don't expect them to be billion dollar items though biggrin.gif Just some entry level items to get you started
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post Apr 27 2013, 03:31 PM

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I just do keep 2 runs for legs and collect DE at the same time. If DE farming only I normally do Vota mp5 about 25-30 per hour.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...#33;!YbbYZc

This is the build I use for VOTA DE farming. It was posted in the Barb forum by a guy for DE run efficiency. He normally does about 35-40 per hour which is amazing.

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post Apr 27 2013, 03:51 PM

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NP! Btw, if you do use this build, passive Unforgiving for Fury. Just rend and HOTA away, the elites melt really fast and then move on to the next one.
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post Apr 27 2013, 04:06 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVkBCrQHThU Here you go. Took me some finding to get the video. This is one of his DE farming runs. You can see how he uses the skills
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post Apr 29 2013, 11:56 AM

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spongebob,

sorry, was busy in game when you contacted me. If you do see me in game again. PM me 1st ok
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post Apr 29 2013, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Apr 29 2013, 03:23 PM)
going from skorn build to dw.. sheet dps lose 40k dps but sheet dps can get net gain 40k dps instead since wotb uptime is much better smile.gif
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DW definitely the better. Also, don't feel so boring as you are constantly moving at full speed.
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post Apr 29 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Apr 29 2013, 04:09 PM)
Farming mp10 , I say skorn ftw just my own view
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I think if can DTWW with 400k dps buffed, can melt everything like skorn and generate fury like crazy
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post Apr 29 2013, 04:50 PM

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Hmmm... I find it quite strange as your APS seems to be sufficient. I'm sure you're hitting 2.5BP. I don't have problems with any affixes even plague/desecrator/arcane/molten even with only 520AR but then again, my APS buffed is above 3.0 and I'm generating 10 ticks for both hands. I think the lower your AR the more APS you should have but I think it shouldn't be a problem to you.
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post Apr 29 2013, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 29 2013, 04:57 PM)
how about you stand on plague and those nasty affix then tell me you don't have problem. LOL

spinning around them doesn't imply that you can deal with it because you barely receive any damage from it.
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Sorry, WW doesn't involve standing. I'm sure you understand the mechanics. Maybe plvl30 on a barb would not make you understand what having 2.8bp and 500AR on barb means. Also, not implying i'm not taking damage but DTWW at 2.8bp gives double the fury and hp regen. Read up on the barbs WW mechanics 1st? Yes waller might be the only problem but there's always the option of kiting them to open areas.

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post Apr 29 2013, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 29 2013, 05:06 PM)
Righttttttttttt

Why do i need to read up on barbs WW mechanics? Maybe you should brush up on your English comprehension capability first. You said you didn't have problems with those bla bla bla affixes so I suggested standing on them and then report how you fare.

Running around and avoiding them does not mean you can hold up to those affixes.
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Running around is what WW is unless you're delusional and thinking they stand and do nothing. You don't generate fury by not moving. I'm not running WWHota build. Since you decided to post your thoughts, I'm assuming you actually understood WW mechanics and further to that, I don't have a problem with said affixes does not imply I don't take damage. Maybe brush up yours instead?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 29 2013, 05:12 PM)
and btw, yeah i don't understand what your breakpoints mean but what i know are the following:

1. LS on belt? LOL
2. dirt cheap gears? LOL
3. more LS? LOL

should I go on? please i had ZERO knowledge about your so called breakpoints or mechanics and yet I could gear a barb and do MP10. What does that say about the class?

Anyway here is a barb advance guide for players:

Right hand: OOOOOO
Left hand: 1234
Eyes: CLOSED
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For white trash mobs tongue.gif Gotcha
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post Apr 29 2013, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 29 2013, 05:16 PM)
again, you need to read and comprehend better.

I understand what and how WW is and works. I'm saying if you wanna see how tough you are maybe just stand still and HOTA them or punch them or whatever you barbs do. By doing so you're probably taking maximum damage.

Try standing on plague, desc or arcane. Something like that and see how you fare.

if you gonna say since i spin around n i get little to zero damage from those affixes, a DH can just vault away and say the same thing but the truth is, with certain AR/LS you cant sustain the damage from those affixes.
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Well I won't argue with mr. know it all but I will have to say that I do not need to read or comprehend better because :

1. You're not rolling a full on barb
2. i had ZERO knowledge about your so called breakpoints or mechanics<---- this
3. i don't understand what your breakpoints mean <---- this as well
4. Try standing on plague, desc or arcane. Something like that and see how you fare. <----- and this since the original topic we were discussing was skorn vs. DW WW not Hota or whatever we do biggrin.gif
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post Apr 29 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(alphaz @ Apr 29 2013, 05:20 PM)
ye ye barb is ezmode nncry tongue.gif
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EZ mode on single player only.. party is different matter.. any affix oso sakit when playing with 3-4
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post Apr 29 2013, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 29 2013, 05:30 PM)
I don't have to argue with Mr.IhaveadexTWHbutchosetokeepit. LOL

1. I don't need to roll a full on barb. Btw, your barb isn't full on either.
2. Yeah I had ZERO and yet could do MP10, pretty much says a lot
3. Go on chat, barbs are player pretty much by 18 years old. Kongor? hhahaha
4. Yeah, i was suggesting a way to see how tough you are but since you're incapable of understanding that. Oh well...
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Oh my someone's mad and talking about Kongor. sweat.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 29 2013, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 29 2013, 05:12 PM)
and btw, yeah i don't understand what your breakpoints mean but what i know are the following:

1. LS on belt? LOL
2. dirt cheap gears? LOL
3. more LS? LOL

should I go on? please i had ZERO knowledge about your so called breakpoints or mechanics and yet I could gear a barb and do MP10. What does that say about the class?

Anyway here is a barb advance guide for players:

Right hand: OOOOOO
Left hand: 1234
Eyes: CLOSED
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Well, the above statement seems to be an implication that you know about barbs as per your understanding? No one's being harsh towards you. Merely suggesting doesn't read like this

how about you stand on plague and those nasty affix then tell me you don't have problem. LOL

spinning around them doesn't imply that you can deal with it because you barely receive any damage from it.

This is more like a statement rather then a challenge when clearly I was just suggesting something to HaruanX and not implying that we are all uber barbs on eazymode. I have no ill feelings towards you but maybe it's the way you posted it that made it seem hostile.
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post Apr 29 2013, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Apr 29 2013, 06:07 PM)
Everybody please...
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I think we're here because we share the same interest for the game and passionate enough to care hence discuss bout game mechanics, build, gearing etc. Don't need to bring out cannon firing all... let's continue with constructive discussion thumbup.gif
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Well said. I shall now continue my journey to get that lottery drop... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Apr 29 2013, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Apr 29 2013, 06:07 PM)
Everybody please...
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I think we're here because we share the same interest for the game and passionate enough to care hence discuss bout game mechanics, build, gearing etc. Don't need to bring out cannon firing all... let's continue with constructive discussion thumbup.gif

Can I get some feedback on how you guys get LS and how many % is sufficient for life replenishment? Please state whether your barb get LS from belt, passive skill or off-hand... which MP you're normally running with that amount of LS... and other life replenishment stats you might have. TQ~ rclxms.gif
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Btw, I can't say how much is sufficient but some barbs say 5.0 some say 5.2. I think it varies on how much APS you have. The higher the APS the faster HP regen is even with 5.0. I see some barbs running on only 3.0 and a bit of LoH but have to have sufficient AR and Armor because RD affix. I tried it with 3.0 and .. straight away die with RD mobs.. too much damage not enough LS. I only use my MH + Bloodthirst, that's about it. I'm sure you're running the same as you are using TWH right?
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post Apr 29 2013, 06:29 PM

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Btw, here's a link to breakpoints and it's mechanics. From damage to fury and health regen per tick. A lot of math but easy to understand.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037344497

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