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post Mar 8 2013, 10:19 AM

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I am no property expert but my layman's view tells me this is too expensive. Flippers won't make money out of this unless they are confident KL property mkt will go up 30% from current levels by the year 2016. The two most important pull factors for TG2 is the MRT and the surrounding amenities. Whether these two factors are worth the premium the developers says they are will be known when the "unveiling" begins on Sat. Let the market decides!
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post Mar 8 2013, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Glees @ Mar 8 2013, 06:19 PM)
Totally agree with sifu cybermaster98's view..  nod.gif
Dangerous!  shakehead.gif
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Yup, I totally agree with cybermaster98's view. But, Glees, please don't read too much of Gordon Chang! This perma-bear on China has been proven wrong umpteen times about the collapse of China. He has no credibility and yet the Western press gives me unnecessary visibility. He is an embarassment.
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post Mar 8 2013, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Mar 8 2013, 08:20 PM)
Thousand of people, 50 tables all full, got wine sushi

But at RM1100 psf for studio the purchasers are really paying for my free dinner
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Haha. Good observation!
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post Mar 8 2013, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(klee123 @ Mar 8 2013, 10:38 PM)
i was there this evening. It was not 1000 people, only around 150 people and not including their staff. Not 50 tables, at most 20 tables. Dijaya is just plain greedy to price it at $1100psf after seeing how well the response was in the phase 1 launch. I am out of here; its just too much overpriced and not much room to make any meaningful gains.

One more thing. The SOHO and office blocks will be replaced with a 20 floor office block near the 12 storey hotel in between Bayberry and the yet to be launched 3rd block service apartment.......this is what they know now but plans not finalised yet.
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Dijaya decided to cut out the flippers and speculators and appeal directly to the die-hard TG groupies biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Rickoo @ Mar 9 2013, 11:28 AM)
ENCORP does not have mainroad fronting nor MRT.
Nexis could be a better option. Anyway I hope there will be some 600sq ft ones for me tomorrow
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The proximity of the MRT is TG's star power. If I am a buyer, I will only consider TG. Nothing in the vicinity interest me. BTW, isn't noise pollution a big deterrent? This MRT station is not built underground so I am pretty sure it's going to be noisy. Buyers beware!
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post Mar 10 2013, 03:07 PM

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I was there this morning. All units snapped up except for the large units. I think 70% of the units booked by flippers. Come 2016 and the price gets to rm1,200, most of the units will be back into the subsale mkt.
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post Mar 11 2013, 02:18 AM

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BTW, pls help me on this: would you agree that TG2 forward pricing (2017) of rm1,100 psf is actually equivalent to approx rm950 psf current price?
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post Mar 12 2013, 10:01 AM

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So, for all those genuine buyers of TG, who thinks that TG has got it all: better to wait for VP for Phase 1, then BUY
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post Mar 12 2013, 10:06 AM

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No point buying now coz you can't have: what you see, what you get. Eg at this moment in time, you can't ascertain the level of noise pollution from the MRT. We don't know how the noise pollution is going to affect the property values in terms of face orientation and floor levels.
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post Mar 13 2013, 07:56 PM

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Millionaires in PJ are no big deal. Anyone who owns a home is practically a millionaire. IMHO, new benchmark for millionaires in PJ is RM10 million. If net asset value is less than that, he is just an ordinary man in the street. That's why he is still taking the MRT once it has been built.
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post Mar 15 2013, 06:20 PM

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Once Uptown Residence is completed next year, the sub sales pricing would give an indication whether TG2 RM1,100 psf is sustainable or not.
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post Mar 16 2013, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(johari.s @ Mar 15 2013, 11:16 PM)
I fully agreed with you. I see TG has a lot of potentials in future. Buying property needs a lot of visualization, how  the area would be in the next 3-5 years down the road. A good product from a reputable developer plus excellence location - then, dont think too much. Booked a unit at Bayberry on last Sunday. I dont think those people invested in Arnica and Bayberry (about 700 plus of them) have the nerd mentality.
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If you book a unit, I think it's quite safe. TG is a good product and the right ingredients are there. But, if you book more than one unit for speculation and get highly leveraged in the process, you may be in trouble. Cos, all those red flags that has been raised in this forum are very, very real plausibilities. And, the upside potential from RM1,100 psf is quite limited. Most of the gains have already been collected by the developer and not much meat is left for flippers that came in during Phase 2.
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post Mar 18 2013, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 18 2013, 06:02 PM)
Miss the opportunity? I dont think i missed anything. The only thing i regret was not starting my property investment before 2009. No other regrets to date. 4 good investments.

I think its rather childish to be talking about jealousy, sour grapes, etc. Im sure we're all way matured than all this rite? So lets keep the discussions mature shall we? I note Happyman as gone silent.
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Agreed wholeheartedly. There is no such things as sour grapes, jealousy etc in investment. We may feel regret but a good investor will always move on as there will always be good opportunities, be it in property, stocks or anything. Tell me, who has 100% foresight?
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post Mar 18 2013, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(asmabadr @ Mar 18 2013, 02:22 PM)
Hi,

Agreed the specifications reflects RM1000 per square feet! Better than a lot of other "luxury development"

Congrats buyers!

some of the specs are as follows :-

Interior Features
Gourmet Kitchens from Gaggenau
•Granite countertops with 6 color selections to choose from
*Note* Special-order granite colors are also available.
•Kitchen sink from Mielle or Han Grohe is per plan specs using finishes such as copper, bronze, nickel or stainless steel
•Cabinets are built to plan specs with customer’s choice of finish type Master Bathroom

Bathrooms
•Finished flooring per plan specs using materials such as natural stone, marble or ceramic tile
•Tubs are placed per plan specs, offering a choice of jetted tubs, garden tubs and free-standing tubs
•Rain Showers are built per plan specs using ceramic tile or marble wall coverings with either “open” or glass enclosure style designs
•Vanity tops are granite
•Vanity cabinets are built per specs and customer’s choice of finish
Living Room
•coffered ceilings
•heavy crown molding
•wainscoting
•wide window and door casings
•arch moldings
•hardwood wall panels with natural timber
•built-in cabinetry

Materials used
•Hardwood species in oak, cypress, heart pine, hickory, chestnut, mahogany and zebrawood
•Natural stone
•Marble
•Sile stone
•Ceramic tile (washing area only)
I have no regrets! Thks! thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Which property are you referring to? It's certainly not Twins Damansara. From what I gather, you may be referring to DC Residence.

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post Mar 18 2013, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(joeblows @ Mar 18 2013, 03:37 PM)
I can buy 1400sqft Opal Damansara (condo just across the road) for 720K.

Then I spend 130K on ID. Enough to fit in Gaggenau, Grohe, Sealy/Tempur-pedic mattress and 40in TV. Seriously, 130K is a huge sum for ID and reno on a 1400sqft condo.

Total = 850K for a 1400sqft dwelling, that I can move into in 2-3 mths.

Isn't it smarter than paying 1.5M for an equivalent in TG that's only ready in 2 years?

This is just what I'm wondering about.....doesn't really make sense.
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It doesn't make sense..........but that's the way it is. Mkts are irrational! With TG, you get the "newness" factor. Perhaps, even a Simon Cowell "X-factor" biggrin.gif

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post Aug 25 2016, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(aacoolj @ Aug 24 2016, 02:16 AM)
yah, dianthus units facing highway will have an advantage, esp higher floor units since they will also enjoy the KLCC and KL tower view (distant, but still can see). none of the arnica or even bayberry units can say that. but u think all this will affect subsale and rental? i always remind agents about premium view when i ask them to value a unit, but those idiots only calculate sq ft and location into rental and subsale market price. thats what they keep repeating to me.. market price.. market price. they never consider a nice view as something that would add to the value. very annoying.
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Hi,
But, strangely, the pricing for the units facing Cypress are higher relative to those facing the highway. Even for the higher floors. I would have thought the privacy concerns of the apartment dwellers would outweigh their distaste for noise from the highway but apparently, the sales are better for the units facing west. Noise issues from the highway can be solved through double window glazing, and the view is so much more breathtaking (esp the higher floors) compared to the views of the Cypress. No fun looking at other apartments unless one has a fetish for voyuerism
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post Aug 26 2016, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Aug 26 2016, 09:30 AM)
I will choose other than facing highway.

I once lived in Cascade, i can tell you is, the noise from the highway is "really really loud and annoying", especially after mid night. Ppl after mid night the noise would be much lower due to much less traffic, this is Wrong!!

Reason:
Day time : the traffic flow in highway is consistent, so the noise generated by the traffic is loud but consistent, therefore, we will get used to it slowly.

Night time : this is the worst time, no traffic, so quiet, every 5-10 mins, a high speed vehicle / bite passing by will wake you up in no time. That kind of shape pitch noise is so annoying. So it come and go in no anticipated timing.

Never buy any property near highway for me. The entire day is so noisy, you basically cannot open the window, and forget about the balcony.

No peaceful life living next to highway. Trust me. Personal experience.
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Hi TK,
Thanks for sharing your insight and experience re living beside a highway. It was certainly very useful.
Can totally understand how unsettling noises can be at night from high speed vehicles.
But, I would have thought that we can mitigate these noises with sound dampening materials and double glazed windows.
Am I right to assume the above?
Luckily, Dianthus doesn't have balconies otherwise it would have been wasted space. For me, windows are shut 24 hrs a day.


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post Aug 26 2016, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 26 2016, 10:38 AM)
purely block d beside NKVE.. casket unit facing nkve also more difficult to rent out but even worse are those facing giant/blocked view etc.

Facing MRT/surian shld be nt so noisyy. wonder how final 4 towers will look..2 square twin tower n 2 rectangle twin tower!
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I think practically all high rise apartments in the heart of a city suffer from noise pollution. But, if I have to choose between an apartment which is noisy but with view, and an apartment without view but peaceful and quiet, I will choose the former.
Noises can be dampened but if you have a breathtaking view from your apartment, it's priceless!
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post Aug 26 2016, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Aug 26 2016, 12:34 PM)
dampened the entire house with huge glass door and window is not cheap.
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For own stay, maybe worth the investment. If planning to rent out, have to do the calculations and see whether got returns or not.
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post Apr 13 2017, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Apr 13 2017, 01:30 PM)
What to do? Tell them they dun listen......
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