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Spanish Clubs FC Barcelona 2012/2013
Spanish Clubs FC Barcelona 2012/2013
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Sep 14 2012, 11:55 AM
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Oct 11 2012, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Oct 9 2012, 01:15 AM) Nice game yesterday... Hi there.I thought Barcelona were much better under Pep Guardiola. Sometimes sacking manager is not the best option. I can understand losing championship to rival Real Madrid but still getting rid of Guardiola is a bit too harsh... Really hope Guardiola will become United manager in the future. No Pep didn't get the boot. He wanted to take a sabbatical. You should've seen how he has aged in the course of 4 years. Poor man. The only club I wouldn't mind seeing him coaching is Man U. But don't expect him to be like SAF, spending so long there. He can't even last longer than 4 years at his club Barca. He is too serious about his job. Added on October 11, 2012, 11:38 am QUOTE(acaptake @ Oct 8 2012, 03:57 AM) The only thing Ronaldo can come close to be compared to Messi are the goals.The buck stops there. This post has been edited by barca96: Oct 11 2012, 11:38 AM |
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Oct 29 2012, 01:02 PM
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It was definitely a top 5 worst performance since the Pep era.
It is up there with the Madrid Supercopa in Madrid where couldn't even string 5 passes together. Busi is needed in midfield especially with Iniesta out. Problem is that Busi is also needed at CB. |
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Dec 22 2012, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(uzary @ Dec 20 2012, 12:51 AM) very sad to hear the news suddenly, wish tito a speedy recovery, it is a regrets not able to c him lead barca till at least the end of this season especially after the best start ever, but most importantly his recovery is a top priority. hope pep wil resume his duty. How do you know that he won't be able to lead the team till the end of the season?This one is not as bad as last season. He won't be out as long as last time. |
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Jan 9 2013, 02:08 PM
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Amazing achievement by Messi.
Thoroughly deserved. Iniesta should've been 2nd though. |
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Jan 20 2013, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Jan 20 2013, 03:04 AM) What on earth are you on?Valdes is the perfect keeper for us. He saved our asses many times before. His 1on1 is one of the best (very important criteria since we play a high line so GK will have a high chance of 1on1 situation). His foot skills are the best. (very important for build up play and possession). Which other keeper do you think has those 2 important qualities that is oh-so important for our team? You want to criticize him for blunders? Fine. But do remember that every goalkeeper commits a mistake at least a couple of times in 1 season. Casillas, Buffon and (insert any GK in the world) included. QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jan 20 2013, 03:19 AM) Valdes couldn't do better. It was poor defensive performance by Mascherano and Alves. They can't stop the source of the attack. Poor defensive performance?It was a poor performance from the whole team. Please don't blame a player. Masch - it was an own goal. You want him to try to block the shot or move away? Alves - he was trying to cover Puyol who tried to cover Pique who tried to head the ball away, far from his position. If anything, Puyol should be blamed for the 1st goal for the reasons I mentioned above and 3rd goal for needlessly kicking the ball out when he has time and space to play the ball. And please do not associate match performance with one mistake. So in your books, Messi could be having a great match, scoring 5 goals but because he had an own goal, you call it a "poor performance" (Masch)? If you don't get it, let's put Masch into Messi. Smasch blocked a lot of shots and won a lot of tackles and recovered a lot of balls but because of the own goal, you call it a "poor performance"? QUOTE(Big_Bad_Wolfgang @ Jan 19 2013, 04:16 PM) Only a few names come to mind: Is this your preference or just a name you plucked out from the media?Ter Stegen (Moenchengladbach) Guaita (Valencia) There's the De Gea rumour, but it doesn't looks likely that SAF will let him go that soon. This post has been edited by barca96: Jan 20 2013, 05:54 PM |
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Feb 19 2013, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(uzary @ Jan 20 2013, 11:13 PM) No offense to valdes fan, i respected valdes as he is our main goal keeper, he is a good goalkeeper but not a great goalkeeper. Yes cassilas, buffon are also makes mistake but most of the tym they guard their goal well. Valdes is kinda like barthez, he can be great one match, but terrible in d another. I am not sure who you are referring to but VV is more than a good GK.This season tito playstyle make alot of goals for us but also leave rooms for opponent to counter attack. Judging how many goals we conceded this season, it is clear that valdes wasnt that great. Previous season under pep, we played much more tiki taka n hold the possesion of the ball better than this year, n during that tym valdes really dont need to do anything, but wit tito play style, he is exposed to more attack from the opponent strikers. N he proved himself by just being a good keeper but not great. Btw i kinda frustrated with this lost as i was hoping we win the la liga title undefeated like juve did lst season. But past is past, hope we perform better nex match, this match luck wasnt on our side. We could hav score at least 4 goals during the first half n win the match. But too bad, n with pique red card, i knew we will lost n we did. If he wasn't he wouldn't have been between the sticks for so long. I guess you forgot the # times he has saved our asses. I don't have the stats but I remember last year I saw one stat saying that VV had a better ratio than the world class Casillas over a # year period. Not amount of stops but the ratio. That's gotta mean a lot. In my mind, VV has a better foot skills that is so important for our style of play and he is one of the best 1 on 1 shot stopper. |
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Feb 19 2013, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Jan 20 2013, 06:42 PM) If his 1 on 1 is so good, why couldn't he bail Barcelona out of defeat last year when Ramires and Torres both ran wild at Camp Nou? Now you're just being selective.I can barely keep count of the mistakes he made in big games - most recent El Classico games come to mind immediately. In last year's Spanish cup, he failed to recognize the danger and received the ball with a very poor control, leading to the dispossession by Angel Di Maria and conceded a goal. In the next Classico that ended 2-2, he was beaten near post by Cristiano Ronaldo, which was not even a fast ball to begin with, terrible reflex. An even older El Classico game, he passed the ball to Angel Di Maria (yet again) and let Benzema score within a minute, then there's the Espanyol game some time ago where the same thing happened. What keeper in the right mind will commit these mistakes in a game of such dimension? His distribution is piss poor and his failure to maintain composure when pressured has failed him from time to time. He was massively overrated or was he overrated to begin with? Nowhere near good enough for Barca as he was only made good by the 10 men in front of him. You are just counting a few instances where he was beaten. Why don't you count the number of times Casillas, Buffon, Reina and Neuer made mistakes too? I've seen howlers from all of them last season or the seasons before. Can't really talk about this season as I haven't been watching any football other than Barca. Like I mentioned earlier, there was a study done with stats showing that VV had a better ratio than Casillas. It was last season and the season before. QUOTE Nowhere near good enough for Barca as he was only made good by the 10 men in front of him. If this was the case, he wouldn't have had to make any saves doesn't he? As a matter of fact he does have to make saves and most of them were the hardest part for GK's which are 1 on 1 situations. |
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Feb 19 2013, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(Big_Bad_Wolfgang @ Feb 16 2013, 02:45 PM) Already signed. Not quite.Pep's reason for the 1 year rolling contract during his Barca days were so that he can quit when he feels he is no longer able to lead / motivate his players. I think it was an admirable act. Most managers would want stability of a long contract, and the possibility of a huge payoff if the club decide to sack them before their contract expire. Yeah, since then, Adriano has came out to say he wants to continue playing in Barca. But it's hard to resist the big money of PSG. We'll have to wait and see. He was more than a coach at Barcelona. He was attached to Barca. He was a player and now a coach and obviously he loves to club to death. And besides that, we all know that Barca is not just a club. It is like a country so he is more or less carrying Catalunya on his back. That is a massive burden to walk around with. |
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Feb 19 2013, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Jan 20 2013, 03:04 AM) I hope that he isn't leaving for good.Hopefully he will be back in a different capacity. As a coach or ambassador perhaps. I guess you have not watched Barca matches since the 90's. We never had any reliable GK's since Zubi. We just never had a world class GK. I was happy with the portuguese #99 Victor Baia but I don't know what happened and he just disappeared. Hesp, Rustu, Bonano were simply poor. Rustu was god awful. If you thought VV made a lot of mistakes, try to find old matches and see what the turkish guy did. Numerous fumbles in the last minute causing us to lose points. You know what they say, "you never know what you got till it's gone." Btw, I am not a VV fan. I am a fan of the club first and foremost. I just can't stand fans who don't just appreciate but taking digs at players without justice. |
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Feb 22 2013, 12:49 PM
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With/out the handball, we weren't able to penetrate their 2 banks of 4's anyways.
Their defensive performance was the best I've ever seen. They stuck to their game plan. Nobody left their position to pressure the Barca players. One thing that the Barca might've done was to use the wings more like whenever Messi went RW. It worked but nobody helped him out. He beat 1 man and has 3 in front of him. I think we can score 3 past them at home but not even 2 if Milan stick to the same game plan which I doubt they will since they have no need to come out and play. |
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Mar 13 2013, 01:45 PM
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What an amazing night (morning).
Not a great performance to be honest. The players was on fire for the first 10 mins but slowed down after the Iniesta volley until Messi's 2nd goal. Started bright in the 2nd half again but again in the 2nd part of the half slowed down. I don't think the players are capable to keep the intensity high like they did from 2008-2011. There were signs last season that they could do it but it has been a long time. We might beat this Milan side but we will struggle against the German teams or Juve. Let's pray we won't draw Madrid. They will beat us fair and square, again. Congratulations to the boys. |
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Mar 17 2013, 12:44 PM
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Mar 17 2013, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(myhotgary2 @ Mar 16 2013, 10:08 AM) Funny how everybody seem to say that we were lucky to progress for niang had hit the post for if it skewed a little to the right it'd be 1-1, while so conveniently forgetting that iniesta drew a magnificent reflex save from abbiati which then hit the cross bar before sailing out about 15 minutes before that. That could have also made it 2 to the good. Conveniently selective memory. Besides, that was the only clear cut chance they had all game, while pique and alba did pull some magnificent last ditch tackles. We were (required to) playing an offensive game, precisely how good would you expect us to defend? While Masch heading into each challenge at the first chance may have backfired in that instance, but at the same time it was how the third goal was initiated. Excatly!Good to see Villa finally smiling like he did when he scored that goal. That is pure joy. Not to mention that he's picked for the NT. If he does play, that should do no harm to his confidence? El capitan is out again. Fitness seems to be a recurrent issue for him, maybe it is really time for him to call it quits. He's already a legend. It breaks my heart to see him play these days, his feet seem too heavy. But his organising of the defence line, communication, leadership and morale boosting effect is second to none. Usually I would say his top class reading of the game is what still makes him relevant even though he has lost the physical and agility edge, but in the last few matches I've seen him played, that doesn't seem to be the case any more. Positioning is somewhat awful, he looks heavy legged and anybody with moderately quick feet can whizz past puyi with little difficulty. What he still has is the judgement to quickly react to the opponent's flicks/turns/feints and interfere, that is sheer class and cannot be taken away. But I have to say, it breaks my heart to see him play lately. Varane stepped up at Real.. Shouldn't we give Bartra a chance? What do fellow cules think? To the Barca-haters, one chance for the opposition = goals = Barca will surely lose. As if Barca is incapable of scoring again after conceding. Look at the way he celebrated. It must've meant a lot to him. It was like the manita goal. All of a sudden, a lot of people think that Puyol has lost it and it all happened after the slip against Di Maria. A slip people. He was actually not quite himself this season but the way people over exaggerate after that slip is amazing. |
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Apr 26 2013, 01:35 PM
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Kudos to the German teams.
Too bad Dortmund can't hold on to their young stars. My biggest beef with the loss is that we lack a coach who can prepare and make in-game changes (although he did it many times successfully in the 1st half of the season). We are incapable of winning CL with this type of coach. |
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Jul 24 2013, 03:45 PM
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Jul 24 2013, 04:04 PM
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Jul 30 2013, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(estcin @ Jul 24 2013, 04:40 PM) If you read the title carefully, it was long ago.And some of them in the videos aren't even dives. But sometimes people want to only see what they want see. He milks sometimes which annoys me too but it's getting really rare for the past season. I wonder if Pep or Tito or any of his team mates every sit him down and try to talk him out of it. I would've definitely done it. |
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Jul 30 2013, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(estcin @ Jul 30 2013, 01:56 PM) Agree. But fans will still be worried at first with Tata's lack of track record, and will be more confident as Tata win more games. Last time, I was so doubtful when Pep lost his first league game. But it turned out to be the only few games they would lose that season. As for Tito, he inherited a great team with all the systems in place. Take no credit away from him, but his job is easier than Pep who rebuilt the whole team. I'd say Tata has a better track record than Pep and/or Tito.Managing a World Cup team to QF and Argentinian club in the league and Copa Liber (sp?) is a different kettle of fish to Tercera Division (3rd division of La Liga). |
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Jul 30 2013, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(estcin @ Jul 25 2013, 02:12 AM) I never hated Busquets. He is a key player and silent worker who doesnt get as much recognition as other attacking players. Agree that he has dived less than before Serial diver?Busquets has dived less in his career than Drogba did in one leg vs. Barca in 2012. And Pedro a serial diver too? tsk tsk. You seem to have already made up your mind that Busi and Pedro are serial divers. If you have followed their careers properly since many years ago, you would've known that most of the dive fame was from the El Clasico encounters a couple of seasons ago. |
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