just wanna ask, assuming you have sgd10k worth of reits and the dividend is 3% yearly, are you expecting 300sgd gain on yearly basis?
Singapore REITS, S-REITS
Singapore REITS, S-REITS
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Jun 4 2017, 07:34 PM
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hello to all sifus,
just wanna ask, assuming you have sgd10k worth of reits and the dividend is 3% yearly, are you expecting 300sgd gain on yearly basis? |
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Jun 4 2017, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 4 2017, 08:08 PM) thanks ram. the 3% was just an assumption I've been reading this thread for quite awhile, and most sifus recommended industrial reits? thus, how would you diversify amongst the reits? |
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Jun 4 2017, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 4 2017, 09:23 PM) Not sure if you have read this. thanks ram. yes, I came across the info and it is still quite a lot of digest, but keep up the good work and I'm sure such info would be helpful to many From my previous post 1) For me, I determine how much yield I want. Very simple it must beat malaysia's amanah saham in the long run. A 5.75% yield can beat a 6%+ amanah saham over long period of time. Eg. You know a reit can give 6%+ yield but right now it's giving 5.8%+ yield, do you want it or do you want to wait? I will wait. (eg. CCT at current price. Will I buy CCT? No. See reason 9. If they give me 7%, yes, I will take not 6% 2) How much debt it have - again this is not set in stone. Lower debt of course better la. But Mapletree greater china IMO is better than capital china retail eventhough mapletree have ~40% gearing -way higher than Capitalland. But we need to see, mainland china are esavvy shopper. In china, you have online store everywhere (alibaba, 360, baidu, tencent, xiaomi, etc) We all know that amazon is beating the crap out of brick and mortar shopping lot. Do we still want capital china retail? If Fortune reit (a HK reit with shopping malls can survive HK, then shopping mall can still survive in HK). Fortune reit would be better option shopping reit vs Mapletree GCC but Fortune reit dividend only 5+% vs 7%+ of mapletree. Next thing you do is look at the mall owned by Mapletree. Is it it good? Even though it's only one mall, but it's a higher version of vivocity. I will bite but not now. Anyway with that high gearing, sooner or later Mapletree will have to issue rights.That time, price will drop. Div yield may reach 8%+ 3) Occupancy rate - the higher the occupancy, the higher the rental (not always true but having the place occupied and people paying rental is better than vacant), does it beat it's peer. 4) Types of building and location 5) Whether it achieve (+) rental reversion 6) NPI - a good reit should increase NPI 7) How the reit manager handle bad times (CMT, FCpT, FCT, CCT, Aims) 8) Read blogs (investmentmoat, fifth person, turtle investor (he's mostly index investor but sometimes does reit review), assi (some I don't agree like ASSI going for Capitalland China Trust and Starhill Global) does good reviews on reit 9) I am sucker for diversification. That's why my reits I choose are not all pure play SG-reit (Hence FCT, MLT and MCT is in my portfolio) 10. I want access to certain market but do not wish to pay withholding tax (I at looking at you AU and US). Hence I add FLT and manulife US when the time is right. Both does not incur 30% withholding tax. 20. How to know price high or not? Use google finance to find out. They have nice chart which shows previous prices. My goal (when I started in Jan) is buy at whatever market price and collect dividend first. Later when opportunities present itself, use dividend collected to average down. A bad strategy but so far it works. Some of my reits I bought at market price giving me 11-12% paper gain (including latest dividend). If opportunity present itself to average down, I will take it. There's still some reits on my shopping list I have got yet. See eg in reason 1. Right now, not buying anything. No money. No discount. |
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Jul 19 2017, 11:11 PM
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Keppel and Soibuild has been dropping quite abit in recent days, any particular reasons?
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Jul 24 2017, 07:31 PM
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I do notice Ascott reit has gone up 5-6% within a week, especially before/after announcement of earnings, any thoughts? (though I can see that dpu wasn't that great due to circumstances)
On the other hand, does reit's price goes down after ex-div, in general? |
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Jul 25 2017, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jul 25 2017, 08:58 AM) it move upwards after announce div. so I'd say its not worth to invest in Ascott given some of the reviews by sifus here? and it moves much higher after this news. http://sbr.com.sg/commercial-property/news...s-based-synergy http://www.btinvest.com.sg/markets/news/13...tml?source=btbn Now i am thinking should i sell it for profit since it move up so high. its 20% capital appreciation within 1.5 yrs. Maybe sell after ex-div? This post has been edited by ConquerorX: Jul 25 2017, 09:53 AM |
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Jul 27 2017, 11:52 AM
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Good day to grab some AIMS and Cache
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Aug 3 2017, 11:38 AM
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today is ex div for AIMS, but don't see it dropping
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Sep 5 2017, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Sep 5 2017, 08:47 AM) http://infopub.sgx.com/Apps?A=COW_CorpAnno...76a79ef0ab6f7af Just a question. How does it affect the current shareholders, given the right issue price is at 0.63 vs current price of 0.87?cache rights issue...!!!! this month.. i will have 2 rights to take care of... |
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Sep 5 2017, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 5 2017, 11:43 AM) Of course. Whenever there's a right's issue, current price will drop. If you don't subscribe, your future dividends will be reduced. sorry, still trying to learn. how does it affect future div if you don't subscribe and if you subscribe, what will happen? say if you purchased cache at 0.9 previously. |
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Sep 5 2017, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Sep 5 2017, 10:09 PM) http://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot....100-rights.html very informative. thanks sis! ConquerorX.. this will explain all you need to know about the RIGHTS ISSUE... enjoy... so on the other hand, assuming you have a singapore address, you just need to wait for the offer letter, fill it up (assuming you are subscribing to the rights issues+ excess rights) and make payment? how do we make payment for the puchases of rights? anyone went through the process before? |
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Sep 6 2017, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 5 2017, 11:51 PM) Read the links I gave you earlier. It explained rights very well. Thanks Ramjade! the links which you had shared earlier was informative. I'm using DBSVO; and direct Individual account with CDP. What would be the procedures based on your knowledge? Yes. For rights you need a SG address. First, what broker are you using, second, is it a direct account (shares held in CDP) or is it custodian account (shares held with broker). Different procedure for both. |
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Sep 6 2017, 10:19 AM
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Oct 3 2017, 10:10 AM
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is it a good price to enter CCT & CMT at this point? what do you guys think?
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Nov 1 2017, 11:18 AM
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seems like there's forex risk involved in regards to keppel-kbs.
http://singapore-ipos.blogspot.sg/2017/10/...s-reit.html?m=1 anyone knows when the IPO starts for the keppel-kbs? |
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Nov 6 2017, 11:22 AM
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anyone is applying the keppel-kbs ipo?
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Nov 6 2017, 07:04 PM
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already tikam some via ATM. let's see if I have the luck 🤣
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Feb 5 2018, 10:23 AM
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flash sales today in SGX! huat ar!
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