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Ramjade
post Jun 7 2017, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 7 2017, 07:14 PM)
No idea about starhub.

Cmt... watch closely... this one like all retail reits wont fly but can wait a bit if wanna sell.

I will surely yell when i sell rest of what i have.  smile.gif
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I think when it approaches ex date again, the price will rise. Need to recycle funds for Netlink IPO and upcoming reit IPO.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jun 7 2017, 07:30 PM
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post Jun 7 2017, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 04:11 PM)
No charges for dividend or maintenance fee. Just pay brokerage fees. That's what make it interesting as a broker for foreign shares. But the bad thing is high forex spread. One alternative, buy using DBS and transfer into Standard Chartered. Transfer in is free. They absorb all charges.  thumbup.gif

If you poor kid like me, yeah la. Need to buy insurance/have mortgage/buy SGD30k worth of unit trust with them. No money no talk  sad.gif  mega_shok.gif
Money talks.  cool2.gif Walk in and say you want to apply priority banking, they let you in. Sure no problem.
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high forex spread for what ? can elaborate abit .

why buying using dbs no forex spread ?

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 7 2017, 05:24 PM)
If you have SC premier in Malaysia, does it entitle you to have it in Singapore?

200k RM easier to aim le tongue.gif
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u must be having cash or investment with value equivalent of SGD200K or above to be Priority member in Sg Stanchart.

Let's start to save from now.
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post Jun 7 2017, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 04:29 PM)
If your stocks worth SGD200k including foreign shares, you can transfer in. It's counted as SGD200k. No need SGD200k cash. Later during bear market, just downgrade to normal member should your value drop. They cannot kick you out  rclxms.gif

That's why I said I want to work on getting SGD200k worth first before going for australia stocks etc.

This is one priority banking with incentive. Others tak da. Useless (except maybe better forex rates). If you can get priority banking for this, go ahead.
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Boss...to obtain Sgd200k = RM600k.

Do you know it takes ard 10 yrs to save RM100k. Maybe you need half of the tenure I guess to save RM100k.

Even if you save RM1000 per month, you need 8 yrs ++ to get RM100k..

RM600K, I guess you got to save 48 yrs ? hahahaha.. unless you have inheritance wealth..

I don't have any gold spoon like you..


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post Jun 7 2017, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 08:57 PM)
high forex spread for what ? can elaborate abit .

why buying using dbs no forex spread ?
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Eg.
You buy AU stocks. You use SGD to buy. If you were to buy using DBS, you use less SGD to buy AU stocks.

Another example. Manulife US reit. You use SGD to buy it from standard chartered. If you use DBS, you would have used less SGD.

After use DBS to buy, then ask Standard chartered to transfer in. No maintenance charges. Then use dividend earned in Standard chartered to buy more.

A trick I learned from a Singaporean.

QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 09:05 PM)
Boss...to obtain Sgd200k = RM600k.


Do you know it takes ard 10 yrs to save RM100k. Maybe you need half of the tenure I guess to save RM100k.

Even if you save RM1000 per month, you need 8 yrs ++ to get RM100k..

RM600K, I guess you got to save 48 yrs ? hahahaha.. unless you have inheritance wealth..

I don't have any gold spoon like you..
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Me also no golden spoon. I just need SGD100k. Then try to compound it 8%. Will get another SGD100k in 9 years

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 09:23 PM)
Eg.
You buy AU stocks. You use SGD to buy. If you were to buy using DBS, you use less SGD to buy AU stocks.

Another example. Manulife US reit. You use SGD to buy it from standard chartered. If you use DBS, you would have used less SGD.

After use DBS to buy, then ask Standard chartered to transfer in. No maintenance charges. Then use dividend earned in Standard chartered to buy more.

A trick I learned from a Singaporean.
Me also no golden spoon. I just need SGD100k. Then try to compound it 8%. Will get another SGD100k in 9 years
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As I can recall, DBSV has a minimum purchase on monthly else there s a charges. that s y I have not sign up for dbsV. Elea, can you confirm on this.

If you were to buy using DBS, you use less SGD to buy AU stocks. => what do you mean by this ? U mean the forex exchange from Sgd to Aud using dbs is better spread compare to Sg Stanchart ? I m not too sure on this. Can elaborate on this point





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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 09:23 PM)
Me also no golden spoon. I just need SGD100k. Then try to compound it 8%. Will get another SGD100k in 9 years
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Sgd100k = RM300k.

If you set period of 9 years, monthly saving is RM2700. you expected salary in coming job must be at least RM5000.

Well planned you.



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post Jun 7 2017, 09:47 PM

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watch this one. if fed fails to hike, bond prices may rise further. so will reit prices then.


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There’s more uncertainty brewing next week. The Federal Reserve is expected to raise interest rates June 14 and may offer guidance on both further increases and its thinking on when to start trimming its $4.5 trillion balance sheet. Treasuries have rallied this quarter, with 10-year yields dropping Tuesday to the lowest since November as traders lose confidence economic growth and inflation will accelerate.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...d-bets-j3lr49xm
https://www.ft.com/content/3dc6156c-4952-11...f4-c742b9791d43

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 09:41 PM)
As I can recall, DBSV has a minimum purchase on monthly else there s a charges. that s y I have not sign up for dbsV. Elea, can you confirm on this.

If you were to buy using DBS, you use less SGD to buy AU stocks. => what do you mean by this ? U mean the forex exchange from Sgd to Aud using dbs is better spread compare to Sg Stanchart ? I m not too sure on this. Can elaborate on this point
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That's only for foreign shares. If you buy SG shares, it's kept with CDP. No charges.

After buy just initiate a transfer straight away once it showed up in DBS V. Don't wait for them to charge you. That's how I will play it. You can try comparing the price you need to pay in SGD. Standard Chartered SG is known for their bad forex spread (among Singaporean). If you are investing in SG, you should learn their tricks and trips. Be kiasu like them. biggrin.gif

I am not very sure about SGD/AUD spread by DBS V. But I know their spread for HKD and USD is definitely way way cheaper than Standard Chartered. So if it's already true for USD and HKD, I am sure DBS's AUD will also be lower than Standard Chartered. This is just assumption (AUD is cheaper)


QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 09:43 PM)
Sgd100k = RM300k.

If you set period of 9 years, monthly saving is RM2700. you expected salary in coming job must be at least RM5000.

Well planned you.
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By that time 8 securities sure operational in AU/SG. Commission free trading. Takkan 10 years they cannot get their license. Also, maybe that time brokers in SG will be as cheap as Malaysia's broker.

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 7 2017, 09:47 PM)
watch this one. if fed fails to hike, bond prices may rise further. so will reit prices then.
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It's almost 100% expected Feds will rise.

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post Jun 7 2017, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 10:01 PM)

It's almost 100% expected Feds will rise.
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i am not so sure it will happen in the near term.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 7 2017, 10:10 PM)
i am not so sure it will happen in the near term.
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From what I read, it's 92-94% expected that Feds will increase interest rate.
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post Jun 7 2017, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 10:11 PM)
From what I read, it's 92-94% expected that Feds will increase interest rate.
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when?

The US economy is still un convincing. Jobs are also slowing.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 7 2017, 10:46 PM)
when?

The US economy is still un convincing. Jobs are also slowing.
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Read it on Bloomberg. But can't find it anymore. Here's other people who said Feds will hike.
http://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/...B2-665E119D65B4
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/30/busin...rest-rates.html
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 7 2017, 10:58 PM)
Read it on Bloomberg. But can't find it anymore.  Here's other people who said Feds will hike.
http://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/...B2-665E119D65B4
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/30/busin...rest-rates.html
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In the same vein,

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/rate-hike...vels-2017-05-17


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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 7 2017, 04:23 PM)
Yeap. i hv just finish talking with Std Chart Relationship mgr.

transfer in shares.. cash.. to the value of SGD200K.

can even open the account from malaysia.

But then huge cash reserves sitting there not earning..!!?
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You will have a whole range of structured products and conventional products for you to choose with that cash reserve. Very wide range depending on your risk and return preference.

Opens up totally another alternative to stock market. Offers from single digit to double digit returns

I would say not for everyone though. Some products are very complicated


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post Jun 8 2017, 09:01 AM

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For those interested,

Eagle Point declares $0.20 dividend

Jun. 7, 2017 12:22 PM ET|About: Eagle Point Credit Company Inc. (ECC)
Eagle Point (NYSE:ECC) declares $0.20/share monthly dividend, in line with previous.

Forward yield 11.59%

Payable June 30; for shareholders of record June 12; ex-div June 8.

Payable July 31; for shareholders of record July 13; ex-div July 11.

Payable Aug. 31; for shareholders of record Aug. 11; ex-div Aug. 9.

Payable Sept. 29; for shareholders of record Sept. 12; ex-div Sept. 8.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 7 2017, 07:14 PM)
No idea about starhub.

Cmt... watch closely... this one like all retail reits wont fly but can wait a bit if wanna sell.

I will surely yell when i sell rest of what i have.  smile.gif
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http://www.theedgemarkets.com.sg/capitalan...-changi-airport

can hold for a while... till good price...

the airport look nice.
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jun 7 2017, 09:05 PM)
Boss...to obtain Sgd200k = RM600k.

Do you know it takes ard 10 yrs to save RM100k. Maybe you need half of the tenure I guess to save RM100k.

Even if you save RM1000 per month, you need 8 yrs ++ to get RM100k..

RM600K, I guess you got to save 48 yrs ? hahahaha.. unless you have inheritance wealth..

I don't have any gold spoon like you..
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u hv to make $$$ work harder for you to make it grow faster.

Money grow from investments.

My opinion the fastest for young people... is still PROPERTY.. if want make 6 figures in 10 years.
as its LEVERAGE MONEY.

Young people can take LONG loan duration and once prop ready dispose for CAPITAL GAIN.

That will expediate the FUNDS build-up.

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 8 2017, 10:02 AM)
u hv to make $$$ work harder for you to make it grow faster.

Money grow from investments.

My opinion the fastest for young people... is still PROPERTY.. if want make 6 figures in 10 years.
as its LEVERAGE MONEY.

Young people can take LONG loan duration and once prop ready dispose for CAPITAL GAIN.

That will expediate the FUNDS build-up.
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couldn't agree more

i think have to have a little bit here and there.
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 8 2017, 10:02 AM)
u hv to make $$$ work harder for you to make it grow faster.

Money grow from investments.

My opinion the fastest for young people... is still PROPERTY.. if want make 6 figures in 10 years.
as its LEVERAGE MONEY.

Young people can take LONG loan duration and once prop ready dispose for CAPITAL GAIN.

That will expediate the FUNDS build-up.
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Agreed with you.

My investment capitals came from disposal of properties gained.

my condo is completed soon and will be ready for renting too. make money works for us.

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