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post Jun 5 2021, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(nicemamak @ Jun 5 2021, 07:17 PM)
What are the attractive S-REIT to buy at this moment? Exclude shopping malls and offices
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Depends on your flavour. Large cap or small cap?

There are industrial, hospitality, healthcare, data center etc. Also can consider business trusts.
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post Jun 5 2021, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(nicemamak @ Jun 5 2021, 09:18 PM)
Do u think Industrial and Data Centre REIT good for long term investment?
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What makes you think otherwise? You should bear in mind that REITs also adapt for survival. So they can expand their scope of investment from time to time. There is no limit on which real estate classes a REIT can invest. All that is needed is an AGM/EGM and amendment of trust deed. So if it's a sunset industry the REIT can ensure its survival by venturing elsewhere.

It's real estate after all.

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Cromwell's acquisition in Czech: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...6bebb6a69710f7d

Lendlease increases stake in Jem: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...43c5e68a27042d9
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 7 2021, 11:17 AM)
i invested in it to diversify my currency hedging on the MYR.  smile.gif
Looks good so far. 

So far i have 50% currency in SGD, 30% in USD. 20% in GBP, 10% in Euro for the SREIts
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That's very diversified in terms of currency exposure. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 9 2021, 05:43 PM

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Query from SGX Regco on Elite Commercial's listing in UK.

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Elite-Respon...t&FileID=670634
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post Jun 10 2021, 02:30 PM

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Keppel DC's competitor has arrived! New IPO expected from Digital Realty.

https://www.theedgesingapore.com/news/ipo/d...apore-trust-ipo
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Jun 10 2021, 02:39 PM)
interesting, the US Digital reality is performing good!
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Ya Ramjade's favourite stock. laugh.gif
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https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...b189fb28c2d9736

IREIT amended some terms in the circular.

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/IREIT%20Adde...t&FileID=670862
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QUOTE(Takudan @ Jun 11 2021, 09:13 PM)
Hi all, newcomer here (and frankly, a green, <1yo investor). I came looking for possible further diversification to my investment portfolio, with a very simple thought: "Singapore land very small, real estate sure up no down. Dividend fat fat"

That said, I read a weeee bit of this thread (sorry, the reports/articles tl;dr) and realised I'm probably in the wrong place.... Looks like there's much to consider.

So before I dive deeper... I have a few questions:
- how far am I off the reality with my initial thought about s REITS? Lol
- this is where you farm dividends, and not so much on capital growth right? So a minimum target (beat EPF's 5) would be 6+% annual dividends?
- I read a little, and it sounds like SREITS isn't 100% Singaporean real estates (geographically speaking), as some of these companies also invest in overseas real estates, like HK?
- which ones are considered blue chips? I'm looking to pick 1 out of 3 to narrow down my search, aiming to invest and forget (if they offer dividend reinvestment, even better) what's a good entry point? (any additional info/why will help)
- I have Moomoo account (thanks for the free share) and IBKR (TSG). Looks like anything Singaporean is cheaper on Moomoo in terms of commission fees, am I right? I'm not sure if I want to keep using Moomoo, but if I do decide to venture into SREITS, my next q would be Moomoo related 😅 any other fee I should be aware of? From where do Malaysians access S REITS?

Thanks in advance!
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Hello.

- Price is a function of supply and demand. You are right that since supply is limited the equilibrium price should be high, but demand plays its role too. Also, how price behaves depends on market structure. Is it perfect competition, monopolistic competition, oligopoly or monopoly?

Generally as land is limited, while SG's population growing, investors attracted by its various offerings, high demand and low supply, price will go up. But in the long run supply and demand side are rather elastic, so it's hard to tell. No one has a magic crystal ball after all. Things may change for the better or the worse.

- REITs are income-oriented vehicles, so dividend yields are prime consideration for many. Capital growth comes with increasing AUM, and factors like inclusion in indices, liquidity etc. Overall, both capital growth and dividend income play important roles and how they are distributed depends on the asset classes, AUM and liquidity. REITs with new economy asset classes, fast-growing AUM and higher margins tend to have higher capital gain components in total return and hence low yield. But as they mature, the capital gain component vanishes but the yield rises.

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Minimum target really depends on industry/asset classes/AUM/sponsor. Blue chip REITs generally large/mid-caps tend to have lower yields and after adding capital gain, total return on par with typical blue chips stocks. Small-caps have higher yields but that also mean higher risk. Risk here refers to refinancing risk. REITs are highly leveraged, and in the event of downturn, there is a higher chance that banks don't want to refinance their loans, with small-caps the most vulnerable to this. So higher yields mean higher risk. Other factors to consider are sponsors (Temasek/GLC-linked?, or IHH). Sponsors with poor reputation/quality may require higher risk premium to compensate. Hence higher yields. Certain asset classes have higher yields than others, say PBSA, while new economy assets can have lower yields, say data centers.

6% would be a typical yield for a mid-cap or the large ones in the small-cap space. Blue chips ones can range for the low 3-4% like Keppel DC/Parkway LIFE to 5% like Ascendas REIT. Small-caps can go up to 7-8% as seen in major US office REITs.

- Yes, different REITs have different strategies. Some concentrate on certain areas like Ascendas mainly focuses in SG while a small portion is invested in developed markets. Some entirely invest outside of SG, say Elite Commercial (entirely UK government properties), or Cromwell EU REIT (all EU properties). US Office REITs, as the name suggest focus on US office assets. They include KORE, MUST, and Prime US REIT. There can also be mixed REITs that do not have any particular restriction on geographical exposure. In general, it's the trust deed that stipulates the geographical limitations, it's up to the REIT's management and investors to decide the geographical locations of the assets.

- Criteria for blue chips: (Not all are needed in order to qualify for a blue-chip)

1. Scale/AUM: Large cap or mid-cap, large number of properties, diversified tenant base
2. Liquidity: Included in major indices, high turnover/volume, easily buy and sell with little influence to market
3. Track record: Increasing dividends over, long run, generally positive long-run trend
4. Sponsors: Who are the major shareholders? Are they GLCs in SG? ROFR pipelines available?
5. Yields: Generally low to medium, low not because they are worthless, but because they are growing or command higher premium due to their stability.
6. P/BV: Higher price to book value, somewhat growth-oriented or stable, only 2 REITs fit into this criteria, Parkway LIFE and Keppel DC.

Please don't forget your investment. REITs, especially blue-chip ones, almost always have EFR, equity fund raising annually to purchase new properties and investors should subscribe to them. Otherwise your investment will be diluted over time. As they can purchase properties anytime in a year, constant monitoring is needed.

-Not qualified to answer anything Moomoo-related. You can ask here though: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5135077/+140

Malaysians access SREITs via foreign brokers in general, like TSG/Moomoo that you have. Some buy via Syfe (https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4969696/+80). Other avenues include indirect investment via various ETFs like STI ETFs, SREIT ETFs. Or actually if you are "rich" enough, and has less risk appetite, you can buy SREIT bonds too. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5020731

Lastly have a look at some of the links and resources I posted here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry99272404

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post Jun 13 2021, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Jun 13 2021, 01:46 AM)
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OH my thank you sifu TOS! Very great writeup, I understand more now -- that at least I know I don't really want to get into a single REIT because I have trouble taking in all the information to figure out which one's the best. I'll probably settle with ETF that has the stable ones you mentioned. Kinda odd though, I found it so much easier for me to decide on a few company stocks to to enter, and yet not for REITs? I have so far picked stocks that I am familiar with (like actually coming across them in real life), and I like what I'm seeing as one of the consumers, or the news associated with them. However with REITs, I hardly ever come across related news, it fees like a very niche investment.

One more question about EFR: I read Investopedia and understand "what" it is, but how does it affect us investors, what should we do exactly when it happens?
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TOS will do. I am not sifu yet. biggrin.gif

It's ok to go for ETFs, but one thing to note. REIT ETFs are a basket of REITs, and the exact composition of the basket is determined by the index providers which the ETFs track. Generally the major REIT ETFs track the iEdge S-REIT Index or the iEdge S-REIT Leaders Index. Both are market-cap weighed with the later one added a liquidity factor consideration.

This means the indices are comprised of all REITs, large, mid, and small with large-caps having more weightage due to their large market cap. The small caps are also included. Some investors like me prefer only large and mid caps. Some others only want small-caps that have higher yields. In both cases, both indices don't suit our needs well. Since they mix both large and small caps together, and even if you want to hold a mix of them, you might want them in different proportions compared to the indices, say heavy in small-caps and only little holdings in large-caps.

So, if you don't mind holding all SREIT counters, and happy with the index provider's weightage, then the ETFs are ok for you. Otherwise, you should construct your own portfolio that suits your need. A bit of a hassle, but doable. In any case, don't blindly follow the indices. Passive investing works for very efficient markets like S&P 500, but there are ample rooms and opportunities elsewhere.

As for the difficulty in security selection in REITs compared to corporate stocks, I am not sure which company stocks you are referring to. One reason could be geographical. You don't live in SG, so it's difficult for you to know what is going on there like a SG resident in the heartlands of Singapore or a fund manager based in Shenton Way, for example. You can however rely on news from the SG media like Business Times, Straits Times, The Edge Singapore or Reuters/Bloomberg. Better still, you can befriend SG residents. And if you are lucky enough, they may work in the high finance world or know tenants of or the SREITs landlords. (My SG friend knows a tenant of Ascendas REIT in one-north). This gives you extra information that the broader markets don't know. So you have an edge.

Another reason could be that you are new to this investment vehicle. In this case, it takes some time but eventually you will reach there.

Regarding EFRs. First you need to realize that REITs are capital-intensive vehicles. During IPO, the REIT will collect funds from investors to acquire some properties and invest in them and collect rent, passing them to you investors as dividends. After some time, if the REITs want to grow, they have to buy more properties and to do this, they need money. There are two ways this can be done. First is to borrow money from the market or banks, either in the form of bonds issuance in the capital markets (the SREIT bonds I mentioned in the earlier post) or facilities/loans from banks.

The second way is to ask for more funds from the shareholders, you. This is done vie EFR. The REIT will make announcements on SGX and the news will be published in the media (SG media, not Malaysia's). You should read the documents published, note the important dates and timeline, and start checking your brokerage accounts for corporate actions notifications. You should also decide on whether to proceed with the fund raisings or forgo it. It you forgo it, chances are your holdings will be diluted. Say if the initial capital of a REIT is 100 million SGD, and the REIT intends to raise 50 million SGD. If that 50 million SGD is raised successfully, and you forgot it, your holdings which is the same as before is part of a larger number of shares, and your stakes are diluted by (150-100)/150 = 1/3. Of course this is an extreme example, usually the dilutions are much less than 30%. Most shareholders will subscribe to EFRs for this reason. You should check with your broker(s) on such corporate action handling matters. Usually the broker has a different deadline compared to the one the REIT announced especially if yours is a custodian brokerage account (not a CDP one), since the broker needs to file certain documents internally and handle with the REIT on behalf of you.

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post Jun 13 2021, 04:10 PM

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BT article:

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NEW ANALYSIS; Unconcerned landlords find plenty of takers for office space that banks vacate
Fiona Lam
10 June 2021
Business Times Singapore
STBT
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© 2021 Singapore Press Holdings Limited

THE trend of Singapore banks trimming office space is not spelling doom and gloom in the leasing market.

Singapore's banking sector will cut office space by 30 per cent over the next few years as office leases expire, a DBS report noted. But firms from other industries have been quick to pounce on these prime commercial units, often in prominent locations and boasting anoramic views of the city skyline. Investors, developers and real estate investment trusts (Reits) thus appear scarcely concerned, and welcome the new mix of tenants. In particular, a technology, media, real estate and corporate blitz looks to be underway.

Citi analyst Brandon Lee expects the space vacated by banks to be filled up by tech and corporate tenants. CBRE Research wrote recently large corporates will probably leverage the pullback in rents to move to higher-quality and better-located offices, fuelling a recovery in the Grade A market. At the Marina Bay Financial Centre (MBFC) Tower 1, tech firms from the US, China and Singapore are among those expressing "very strong interest" in roughly 200,000 sq ft across nine and a half floors.

Media companies and financial services providers are also keen on that MBFC space, which is part of the 400,000 sq ft currently leased to Standard Chartered, The Business Times reported. The UK bank's lease expires in October 2022, with an option for renewal.

Similarly, Keppel Reit is seeing demand from US tech and corporate tenants. In Singapore, the Reit owns a 79.9 per cent interest in Ocean Financial Centre, one-third of MBFC, a one-third stake in One Raffles Quay, and the entire Keppel Bay Tower. Suntec Reit also has a 33.3 per cent exposure to MBFC. Data from JLL Research showed that financial services' share of office space in new buildings across Singapore shrank from 47 per cent in 2004-2014 to about 26 per cent in 2015-2020. In the same period, occupiers from the tech sector grew their footprint to 22 per cent of the market, up from 8 per cent. Real estate companies accounted for 13 per cent in 2015-2020, swelling from 3 per cent in 2004-2014.

Keppel Reit, whose portfolio includes 10 big banking tenants taking up more than 40,000 square feet (sq ft) each, is confident of backfilling most of its potential vacancies, Citi's Mr Lee wrote.

It would be similar to how the Reit managed to fill former anchor tenant UBS Group's vacated space at One Raffles Quay, he said. TikTok owner ByteDance took up three floors spanning over 60,000 sq ft in the building, which is also jointly owned by Hongkong Land and Suntec Reit, after the Swiss bank moved out, Bloomberg reported. Four of Keppel Reit's key banking tenants are reportedly looking to surrender their space, including DBS's about 75,000 sq ft in MBFC Tower 3, StanChart in MBFC Tower 1, and ANZ's one floor in Ocean Financial Centre. Any downtime or "short-term income void" could be mitigated by positive rent reversions and S$467 million of undistributed capital gains, Mr Lee said.

Some investors are also maintaining a rosy view of the office leasing segment. Blackstone Group plans to invest in more properties in Singapore due to "compelling opportunities for high-quality office spaces", the US private equity giant told BT when it acquired The Sandcrawler, a Grade A business-park building in Buona Vista. This demand is driven by an influx of global tech companies setting up regional headquarters in the city-state. Such occupiers are keen to take up office space in low-rise buildings in business parks with a "unique campus-style experience", instead of skyscrapers in the CBD, Blackstone added.

Meanwhile, Hongkong Land, which owns a one-third interest in MBFC's commercial space, said it expects to achieve rents of between S$11 and S$12 per square foot (psf) per month for the StanChart floors that are being marketed. That is above the average of S$10.40 psf per month during Q1 2021 in CBRE Research's basket of Grade A (Core CBD) office rents.

The Singapore office sector has seen improved supply-demand dynamics, Mr Lee said. Supply is limited, given the potential delays of two sizeable office buildings - in GuocoLand's Guoco Midtown and IOI Properties' Central Boulevard Towers - to 2023 and 2024.

Tech giants from the US and China, including ByteDance, have snapped up real estate in Singapore since last year. Lazada and its parent Alibaba Group signed up for 140,000 sq ft at 5One Central on Bras Basah Road. In May 2020, Alibaba bought a half stake in AXA Tower. ByteDance's TikTok is also continuing to expand its physical footprint here, having leased two floors amounting to 58,000 sq ft at GuocoLand's Guoco Tower.

Mr Lee noted that the fall in Singapore office demand from banks and co-working operators should be mitigated by Chinese tech demand, including expansion by "first liners" - Alibaba/Lazada, ByteDance and Tencent - which are already here, as well as "second liners".

Singapore Press Holdings Limited


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Suntec's divestment of 30% stake in 9 Penang Road.
https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...0ba2c8d52424020
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Q&A regarding IREIT's acquisition: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/IREIT_Substa...t&FileID=671437
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IREIT's EGM resolution of the French acquisition is now passed.

https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...845a4947424bf40
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Wah with interest rate hike this thread is suddenly alive. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 18 2021, 07:56 PM)
Most important question tax free or 30% tax?
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Very likely tax-free. For corporates easy to evade the 30% WHT, you can already see this in KORE, MUST, Prime US REIT (the US office REITs generally has rather smart "tax evasion" structure)

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 19 2021, 05:51 PM)
I believe the bro could be referring to the new tax-structure that is being mulled by the new Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen, now,... how will this new tax structure affect the REITs internationally ? How will SG companies be affected too ?
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Ah yes the G7 tax deal too. Would be interesting to watch the developments.
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Prime US REIT to establish DRIP for unit holders: https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Prime%20-%20...t&FileID=671765
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QUOTE(moosset @ Jun 22 2021, 11:03 AM)
Is it? Where's the news?
Not DLR?
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Ya same question. Hansel I know about Digital Realty's listing, have not heard of Equinix's though.

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Prime US REIT's acquisition: https://links.sgx.com/1.0.0/corporate-annou...3a49ff53d57cb26


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Elite Commercial offering Distribution Reinvestment Plan.

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Elite-Establ...t&FileID=672612

Not long ago Prime offered the same. Looks like they want to deleverage with rising interest rates?

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