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post Feb 26 2017, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ Feb 26 2017, 10:01 AM)
Sorry for not understanding your statement.  blush.gif

For the case of Maybank Kim Eng Trade Prefunded Account, will the dividend be credited into this KE Trade Prefunded Account, and then we need to manually transfer the dividend, to our Singapore saving account?
Assuming that MAS does not extend the tax-free period beyond March 2020, do you all plan to sell your SGX shares and S-REIT units latest on February 2020, since withholding tax will naturally reduce our yield?  hmm.gif
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No problem for me as i reinvest all my dividends so no need to transfer out to dbs acct.

Even tax free not renew will continue to invest in sgx, maybe more in stocks rather than reits. The 2020 time limit onky affects reit.

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post Feb 26 2017, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 26 2017, 10:34 AM)
Well for Sifu Hansel, he perfer shares to be CDP because he wants to attend their AGM. For me, I don't really care about the AGM as long as the counter is performing, don't really want to look at it.
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For nominee account, you can attend agm. Before the agm, just contact your trading rep to fill in a proxy form for you and submit. Then you can attend the agm as shareholder.

The shares held inside a nominee account is kept in a seperate benefit account and not lumped together. Unless you give permission, the broker cannot touch or misuse it. Eveb if the brokerage company bankrupt, debtors cannot touch those assets by law.
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post Feb 26 2017, 06:18 PM

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Most reit gives dividend 2 to 4 times per year. Timing will not matter if you plan to hold long term. If you want dividend, you must hold the share before until exdate.

I mostly buy whenever there is value and hunt mostly after ex dividend. smile.gif
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post Feb 26 2017, 07:01 PM

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Announcement date - date divvy is announced
Ex date - date divvy is distributed ( share no longer have divvy)
Payment date - date divvy is paid to your accounts

That is the basic of dividend dates.

If you buy before ex date and keep until ex date - you are entitled to dividend.

If you sell before exdate, you dont get divvy.
If you buy on exdate or after that, you dont get divvy.
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post Mar 4 2017, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 4 2017, 04:56 PM)

On my part, I've just discovered a round-up report of another REIT this evening,.. Viva Industrial Trust. Research and data compiled by OCBC and evaluations from OCBC too,.. read-on :-

I find the above quite detailed and complete for VIT moving fwd,... Appreciate some opinions,...
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Did an in depth review of viva vs soilbuild a couple weeks back in this thread. You can search the thread.

Just be aware that they have rental support which is going to expire in 2018/2019.

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post Mar 4 2017, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Mar 1 2017, 09:32 AM)
Uncle @gark, can provide me the contacts for Leslie Toh? smile.gif
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Already PM you the contact.

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post Mar 6 2017, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 5 2017, 11:58 AM)
Tq bro gark,... yeah, I recalled we discussed this earlier, buy in light of more complete details from OCBC,... and recently, Religare Capital started coverage too,.. I was thinking if our opinions of the fundamentals could have improved.
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Jackson Square is under rental support and is expected to be 75% occupied. Location is not really that good, so we expect some negative reversion. Also it is classified under light industrial and not BP. Impact to revenue after the rental support guarantee expire will be around 30-35%. Jackson Sq contributes about 6% of total income.

UEB Bizhub, got more potential, with 89% occupied and further occupancy once the MRT line is completed with some fair rental reversion. I would expect impact to revenue to be very small, maybe around 5-10%. UEB Bizhub contributes about 30% income.

However the Bizhub hotel will not do as well once the rental guarantee expires, similar to hotel occupancy in singapore, we expect the occupancy will be lower at 70-80% vs 99.5% with rental support. This will likely reduce the income by 25%-30%. The hotel contributes about 13% income.

For viva BP, current occupation is at 73%, and after the latest AEI, we expect the rental to go up as the current rental is too low for a pure BP. Also occupancy should be moving up and the white space should generate more income. We expect the rental income will increase by 10%-20%. VBP contributes about 29% income.

Jackson design hub is also under master lease, and would be expiring soon, but the impact should not be too big at maybe 5%-10%. JDH contributes 3% of income.

Taken as an aggregate, for worse case scenario, the impact on loss of income will be -2% from JS, -2% from Bizhub, -3.5% from Hotel, +4.3% from VBP and -0.2% from JDH. Weighted average potential reduction on revenue and income will be around 3% and 7% respectively.

Also to note that VBP land lease is expiring in 15 years, Jackson square in 12.6 years and 30 pioneer road at 20.4 years. We have to take into account at worst case scenario, after the expiry of the land lease we expect no more income for these properties. So the NET decay rate for property will be 6.6%, 7.9% and 5%. These property represents 40% of the total properties, so the decay rate will be around 2.8% net.

I think the price now is fair value, but I would not take anything less than 9% from the potential income reduction after rental support ends and the high decay value of 2.8% (which is consider capital return).

The above is my opinion only, and am not responsible for your gains or losses. I am vested in Viva. laugh.gif


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post Mar 7 2017, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 7 2017, 08:22 AM)
i am still holding. but not adding.

I want to reduce my 30 counters to 20 only this year.
eyes cannot see all 30 also.

In my portfolio:

AIMS - 12%

CACHE - 3% - entered 2015. Now at 2% loss (include dividend)

VIVA -  3% - entered since 2014 (At 18% gain include div)

mapletree industrial - 2% - cost very low about  (about 40% gain incl div)

which one to take out? Appreciate some suggestion.
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I would keep AIMS... and mapletree. laugh.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 7 2017, 10:30 AM)
If I am investing for long term, does entering price really makes a difference? Cause if I wait on the sidelines with cash, I might be missing out on the dividends. I can always average down

If I plunge in straight, at least I am assured of the dividends but could be lower cause the price is high.

Please advise.  Kind of in a dilemma notworthy.gif

Counters that I will be looking at:
- MGCC
- Croesus
- Topping up AIM
- Fraser Logistic
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For me I rather wait and buy lower.. reason the extra % of divvy will work out better in the longer term.

Don't like to see a RED counter in my portfolio (although covered by divvy). tongue.gif

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post Mar 7 2017, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 7 2017, 10:53 AM)
That is providing you are expecting SReits to retract on their prices.
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Sooner or later they do... and occasionally they selldown.. brows.gif

Just that you have to hunt wider and not restrict yourself to certain stocks.
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post Mar 7 2017, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 7 2017, 11:05 AM)
So if I want MGCC, Croesus and Fraser Logistic, better I wait?
Before this just buy cause don't want to waste dividend collection.
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I am waiting for Creosus at 0.80-0.83 and Fraser Logis at 0.89-0.925 (almost get it 2 days ago, during selldown)

Might get.. might not. tongue.gif

No guarantee yah!

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post Mar 7 2017, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 7 2017, 11:40 AM)
i think the keyword here is "does NOT spend" (much) - prioritized spending / frugality on low value stuff to him  notworthy.gif
no matter how much one makes, if expenditure >= income (active + passive), net worth or cash flow still kaput  sweat.gif
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Spend less, invest more.. and one day you will find that you can save >100% of your working salary. laugh.gif
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post Mar 7 2017, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 7 2017, 04:54 PM)
why ASCOTT after announce the rights.. price drop 3.8%... shareholders not happy with the purchase?

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Rights issue is always negative sentiments for REITs.. tongue.gif

Ascott just did rights issue in 2015.. so fast..

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post Mar 7 2017, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 7 2017, 06:52 PM)
For those who are interested in Nikko REITS ETF

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You can buy the REITs with the same ratio as above yourself, save management fee, save taxes. No need buy the ETF devil.gif

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post Mar 8 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 8 2017, 08:38 AM)
i hv all these except LINK & FORTUNE... hv u started buying HK REITS?
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Not yet.. yield is not interesting enough yet...
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post Mar 8 2017, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 8 2017, 08:43 AM)
my ASCOTT price was 1.08 entered in March last year.

So, what would be the price after costed in the rights? how to count?

need to add or else my div will be less as shares increased.
furthermore my rights will be auto sold off.. so, i want add at the 'BEST" price if possible.

yeap i know can never timed the BEST price..but try la.
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The details will be in the prospectus, under theoretical ex rights price.

Got read? tongue.gif

Anyway summary here.. (calculation will change depending on price)
Closing price : $1.17
Rights Price : $0.919 (21.45% discount)
Theoretical Price ex rights : $1.114

Dilution 29 rights for every 100 shares.

Gearing reduce from 40% to 37%

DPU per unit will reduce from 8.27 to 7.27 and post deal will be 7.43

Notes.

Deal is DPU accreditive IF you subscribe
Your DPU will be diluted IF you do not subscribe.

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post Mar 8 2017, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 8 2017, 01:13 PM)
I'm glad I divested Ascott REIT after attending the AGM last year, after hearing the GM spoke. Shareholders reminded him to be more conservative when doing these exercises, and he said yes,... He was very friendly and down-to-earth, I must say,...

But now,... doing it again,... biggrin.gif

For Cache Logs Trust - Daniel and the board said okay,... they will be more conservative, and not to do too much anymore. Since that AGM last year, none was done anymore ! Okay-lar for CLT !!!!!!!  thumbsup.gif
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Actually I sometimes wish that these REIT managers just quietly do their job, relax in office and no need go find so many deals.. innocent.gif

Just let us earn dividend in peace.. laugh.gif

But then again, the managers always need more income.. from transaction and future management fees.. puke.gif

Now Croesus manager already internalized, I hope he wont be pressured to do many deals.. tongue.gif

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post Mar 9 2017, 01:08 AM

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US 10Y is almost breaching the 2.6% yield. Bill gross predicts if the yield stays above that consistently will lead to a bond bear market.

Time to get your ammo ready.. hopefully. wink.gif

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post Mar 9 2017, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 9 2017, 09:39 AM)
Gark,

how will this impact the Reits sector?
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Higher bond yields.. usually means higher REIT yields. brows.gif
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post Mar 9 2017, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 9 2017, 11:34 AM)
So better to sell Reits now n buy back after pullback?
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Nothing is certain.. for REITs i rather not speculate. Only collect if prices meet the yield you want.

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