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TSprophetjul
post Dec 2 2022, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Dec 2 2022, 08:59 AM)
Received this from IBKR because I holding ODBU - UNITED HAMPSHIRE US REIT  sad.gif

full list: Publicly Traded Partnerships List

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Does this apply to all listed companies?
TSprophetjul
post Dec 2 2022, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 2 2022, 09:11 AM)
I saw Eagle Hospitalit Trust and United Hampshire US REIT in the list tadashi posted. So it's not a new thing already?
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Does this mean we get withheld 10% when we sell the shares?

i sold some Utd Hampshire few months back. Nothing applied yet.

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post Dec 2 2022, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Dec 2 2022, 09:15 AM)
i think it applies to BOTH sell and dividend, after 1 Jan 2023
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Oh Yeah. Distributions too! sweat.gif
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post Dec 2 2022, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 2 2022, 09:15 AM)
Ya, gross proceeds and "certain" distributions. You bought Eagle Hospitality many years back right? You should know this better than me and tadashi? tongue.gif
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i missed this because it has never been applied.
The notice says 1st Jan 2023.
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post Dec 2 2022, 09:19 AM

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The time for filing Forms 8288 and 8288-A to report IRC section 1446(f) withholding is the same as for IRC section 1445 withholding. The same rules for filing Forms 8288 and 8288-A by transferees withholding tax under IRC section 1445 apply to transferees withholding tax under IRC section 1446(f). The same rules for claiming a credit for withholding of tax under IRC section 1445 apply to transferors receiving Form 8288-A claiming credit for withholding under IRC section 1446(f).

For more information on Section 1446(f) Withholding requirements, please refer to Publication 515, Withholding of Tax on Nonresident Aliens and Foreign Entities.

While both IRC sections 1446(a) and 1446(f) require withholding if a foreign partner has gain that is effectively connected to the conduct of a U.S. trade or business, there are differences between the withholding provisions. The differences include:

Under IRC Section1446(a), a partnership must withhold on effectively connected taxable income the partnership earns that flows through the partnership and is allocable to a foreign partner. Withholding is at the partner's highest tax rate (i.e., under Section 1 or 37% for non-corporate foreign partners and 21% for corporate foreign partners).
Under IRC section 1446(f), if the foreign partner has gain on the sale or exchange of a partnership interest, the purchaser/transferee of the partnership interest must withhold 10% of the amount realized on that sale or exchange, unless the transaction qualifies for a full or partial exception. Thus, the withholding generally is not based on income flowing through the partnership to the foreign partner.


https://www.irs.gov/individuals/internation...ial%20exception.
TSprophetjul
post Dec 2 2022, 09:22 AM

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For Utd Hampshire

https://investor.uhreit.com/newsroom/202210...8NXEMBWAS.1.pdf
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post Dec 2 2022, 09:24 AM

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i trade US stocks too. Received dividends. Sold. Never had anything with held to date.
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post Dec 2 2022, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 2 2022, 11:37 AM)
Let's tag the usual suspects. tongue.gif

prophetful Hansel wongmunkeong cherroy

I personally think with interest rates going to peak, it might be easier for them to refinance loans, so things may not be that bad. Current yields are around to 8-9% p.a. which may be enticing for current investors to buy, but in your case, your yield will probably be around 7% p.a., so you will have to "wait" to recover the loses. It highly depends on interest rate environments. If the rates start to turn downwards, then you can reap capital gains. But if inflation failed to be tamed, the loses will compound.

Another risk is that if they start doing rights placement and various equity fund raisings, then your money will be stuck for a long time due to dilutions and stagnating or even decreasing DPUs.
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A'lo........it's prophetjul, not prophetful.......with a j. biggrin.gif

What reit are we discussing here?

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Dec 2 2022, 12:15 PM)
hehe this wan simple, i can help to reach clarity:
No sunk cost fallacy - assuming U dont hold those stocks, will U want to hold now - ie U like the biz, management, etc?
IF Yes - sit and monitor
IF No - sell sell sell! <'ala Cwazy Kramer>
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Bro, i have the same approach! thumbup.gif
Pretend you don't have it now. Will you invest in it?

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post Dec 2 2022, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 2 2022, 01:33 PM)
Oh my bad. prophetjul it is.

Tagged you to ask you to help tadashi in deciding whether he should continue his investment in United Hampshire US REIT. smile.gif
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ohh...i see.
i sold some at 70 cents. Collecting back now.
i still like their business model.
Some data
Fixed interest debt = 82%
Debt leverage 42%
Effective interest rate = 3.05%
DPU= 5.82
Eff yield= 11.64%

Sensitivity to
LIBOR/SOFR 2
Every +50bps in
LIBOR/SOFR
translates to 0.053 bps
US cents in DPU p.a.
which is 0.89% of
trailing 12 month DPU

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post Dec 5 2022, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Dec 5 2022, 11:54 AM)
I never knew the US-based REITs are PTPs,... PTPs means partnerships. REITs are partnerships ?

Looks like the only US-based REIT that 'might be' affected is Utd Hampshire ? And Ara Hospitality Trust ?
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Hi Bro.
No. Utd Hampshire is no affected by this tax.

https://investor.uhreit.com/newsroom/202210...8NXEMBWAS.1.pdf
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post Dec 12 2022, 09:24 AM

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For those still holding EC WOrld :
2022 EXTRAORDINARY GENERAL MEETING
RESPONSE TO SUBSTANTIAL AND RELEVANT QUESTIONS

https://ecwreit.listedcompany.com/newsroom/...HV7CJUWES.1.pdf

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post Dec 29 2022, 05:09 PM

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https://ecwreit.listedcompany.com/newsroom/...6QMWZHKAW.1.pdf

EC World Dividend monies didn't reach account yet.
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post Dec 30 2022, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 30 2022, 09:18 AM)
Another REIT almost breaching the 50% aggregate leverage threshold: MUST

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/MUST%20Aggre...t&FileID=742874
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Revaluation of assets is a big risk event.
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post Dec 31 2022, 12:04 AM

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https://starhillglobalreit.listedcompany.co...7UYPRZAT0.1.pdf
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post Jan 1 2023, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 1 2023, 11:31 AM)
Saved by the bell. laugh.gif
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post Jan 17 2023, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 17 2023, 08:51 AM)
Kicking the proverbial can down the road.
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post Jan 20 2023, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 19 2023, 11:57 PM)
First S-REIT to default in 2023: Dasin Retail Trust. shocking.gif

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/DASINRT-Anno...t&FileID=744546
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This Reit was already in trouble way before even Covid?
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post Jan 31 2023, 02:50 PM

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https://ecwreit.listedcompany.com/newsroom/...BBPN6PX1J.1.pdf

EC World- The can is further down the road

(a) the Purchasers have advised that they are unable to complete the Proposed
Divestment by 31 January 2023, as they are in the process of obtaining the relevant
financing approvals from their lending banks in relation to their financing for the
Proposed Divestment; and

(b) the deadline for the repayment of the remaining Mandatory Repayment Amount is
now 28 February 2023 based on the Repayment Plan, which was disclosed in the
17 January 2023 Announcement and is also subject to the conditions specified therein.
The Sponsor demonstrated its support for EC World REIT by working closely together
with the Manager to engage the Lenders and arrive at a Repayment Plan which the
Lenders are agreeable to and by procuring the fulfilment of certain conditions under
the Repayment Plan, such as by placing the Margin Deposit in the escrow account of
the onshore facility agent under the Existing Onshore Bank Loans and by paying
S$4,400,000 (approximately RMB22,622,1080F to the Lenders as partial repayment
of the Existing Offshore Bank Loans
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post Feb 3 2023, 08:08 AM

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Capland China Trust FY results

https://investors.sgx.com/company-disclosur...96WPVJWCN9F8BEC
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post Feb 4 2023, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Feb 3 2023, 06:44 PM)
Sasseur REIT's loan refinanced. Pretty long announcement document (5 pages), lots of info.

https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Sasseur_REIT...t&FileID=745758
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Can anyone see what are the rates of the Refi?
i cannot seem to see them in the announcement.

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