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Havoc Knightmare
post Mar 1 2019, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 1 2019, 09:00 AM)
Yea
OR conditioned that the new shares are not eligible for the DPU from income before the issue.
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Yup this tells me that this REIT is not a good long term hold. We need to get out before the next rights issue.
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post Mar 1 2019, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 1 2019, 10:00 AM)
Yea

More properties, more management fees!  If that is the direction of the manager, its time to relook at this.
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Well the fact that they did a rights and acquisition that was most likely dilutive to the original unitholders so soon after IPO tells me that the sponsor treats this REIT like a recycle bin just to monetize its assets rather than cultivating a good long term investment vehicle... the next rights issue might just bring this REIT down to 30-40 cents.
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post Mar 2 2019, 12:00 PM

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https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/03/...ounts-belonging

A not so pleasant reminder that the government is fully aware of our offshore accounts and has the means to tax our offshore income, should it come to that some day.
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post Mar 2 2019, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 2 2019, 12:11 PM)
So need to declare we got overseas account?
Our income already taxed already what. So declare or don't declare should not make much difference right?
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Mar 2 2019, 12:26 PM)
If you have declared all your income generated from malaysia, then you can do nothing. Just ignore

They have already known that you have overseas bank account. So don't need to declare that also

Your overseas income (if subject to tax) should be dealt with by the respective countries' income tax law assuming there is double tax agreement between the country and malaysia

This is the email from the Ketua Pengarah :
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Our SREITs is not taxable but the government might target us with extra scrutiny ie tax audits just because they think we might have something to hide. Somehow having offshore accounts is a bad thing according to the more socialist leaning politicians.
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post Mar 3 2019, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Mar 2 2019, 10:12 PM)
If someone has something to hide, then he should be worried now that the countries share information of tax payers

If there is nothing to hide, nothing to worry about. Tax audit is just part of their job and tax payer's responsibility

In the email sent by the pengarah, he clearly said there is nothing wrong with holding overseas account if all income generated in malaysia is declared

Is there other things / circumstances which you are referring to ?
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I have nothing to hide but I fear the socialist inclinations of our new government. I have heard with my own ears in a closed door meeting with a certain Mr Pua that he is personally pushing for capital and dividend gains taxes. He is pushing for a raft of other market unfriendly measures, fortunately most of which have not seen the light of day.

With that knowledge, I converted all my spare RM to SGD on the morning May 10. I was hoping to keep my nest egg safe beyond the reach of any socialist, but now it seems like they can easily touch it should they wish to do so and it makes me very uncomfortable.

And just to make a disclaimer, that just because I am not a PH supporter doesn't mean that I am a fan of Bossku either, before anyone tags me as such.

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post Mar 3 2019, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Mar 3 2019, 02:28 PM)
Apparently not only Mr Pua feels so, his bosses also feel so. They are socialist at heart.

So, like you said, capital gain tax, dividend tax, and I would speculate further inheritance and gift tax, increasing income tax bracket on U20 people, luxury goods tax, no petrol subsidy for expensive cars, etc are all on the table. RPGT 5% for properties over 5 years is already in place. All these taxes affects middle and upper income group.

These measure are not only contractionary and detrimental to expending the economy, but will also drive capital away from Malaysia. As a developing country, these measures are not suitable.

I have said before they are stupid politicians because they chose the same road najib took. Najib taxed his supporter with GST. And they also tax their supporters who are middle upper income group.

Instead of tackling the mismanagement in the government department (which we saw buying a torchlight for RM3000 in the audit report), they instead go after their supporters. Government budget is about RM250b per year. Just by saving 20% in expenditure would save the government RM50b per year. That is RM10b more than the collection of GST under Najib. That should be the priority - cut down corruption to save expenditure, instead of expanding the revenue.

I always voted the opposition in my whole life. Looks like I will remain as the opposition supporter in the next election  biggrin.gif
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Finally someone who understands my sentiments exactly! I agree with you 101%. The upper middle class are still deep in slumber, and probably will only wake up when things get really bad for them. I have met Mr Pua and Mr Liew personally, and was shocked to discover their true extent of socialist views that they hold to heart. I am therefore not surprised if their bosses also hold the same view. It does not make sense that they are bending over so hard to court voters who will never vote for them (cue Cameron Highlands and Semenyih), at the expense of their core support base, the upper middle income urban folks like us.

That is why when the new government took over, I was not surprised by their market unfriendly policies. Foreign investors continue to take their money out, as evidenced by the slow decline of the MYR. The focus on B40, and demonisation of T20, is very unhealthy as it is the T20 who propel the development of the country forward, and uplift the rest of the country in the process. It is this failure by the government to understand this, that will stunt our economic progress and deter foreign investors.

For these reasons, I prefer to invest into SG and HK, where their governments understand the value of free markets, which provides stability and instills confidence in foreign investors. I can share with first hand information that foreign investors were really burnt by the sudden policies of the government that impacted companies such as Telekom and Genting. It will be some time before we regain their confidence, and as such, we can expect the RM and local market to underperform.

And you are right on the government budget. Their cuts are only superficial, and they have chosen to tax us to fix the hole instead. It looks like our votes have been taken for granted and that they need a reminder.

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post Mar 3 2019, 06:42 PM

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I have just done a review of SREITs year to date biggrin.gif
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post Mar 4 2019, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 3 2019, 10:32 PM)
They cause me to pay for electricity. Before this I enjoy free electricity.
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This will be least of your worries if the socialists get their way and tax our capital/dividend gains.. sad.gif
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post Mar 4 2019, 10:22 PM

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FLT is to be included in the FTSE EPRA/NAREIT Global Developed Index, hence the rally. Unfortunately I sold all of mine some time ago sad.gif
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post Mar 5 2019, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 5 2019, 12:05 AM)
Fyi, I went to the lhdn office and for me there is nothing for me to declare as the officer said my account is newly opened. I was asked the reason for opening the foreign bank account and source of fund.
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Thanks for sharing. Did they require you to submit details of your account?
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post Mar 5 2019, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 5 2019, 09:44 AM)
No, they did not ask although i have bought my docs along.This is because my account being newly opened. 

However, the officer asked to start  declaring the 'taxable' income for my foreign account next year but I told him my fund is purely from my employment which has already been taxed ? He told me it's ok then,that's all... confused.gif
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Hmm I guess they are just trying their luck to encourage people to declare taxable income. From what I hear, they do not have the system or resources to tie the offshore account details with the existing database of taxpayers, or at least not yet.
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post Mar 5 2019, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 5 2019, 02:07 PM)
I am not sure about that, but those who have received the email,  and have foreign accounts more than 1 year may want to take note on this voluntary declaration.

Also,  they have buntings around the office for volunteer declaration for those taxpayers who had never filed tax or declared taxable income previously,  with 1st tier timeline up to 1st April 2019 to do so and then the penalties gets heavier with the second tier timeline of 1st June 2019 ( I hope I get the dates right, pls check yourself the details). I would expect enforcement after the deadline for this Program Khas Pengakuan Sukarela given the current financial situation. 

I am not sure about the deadline for volunteering declaration for those who have overseas account as this is  not listed in the abovementioned buntings or in the email  if I am not mistaken.
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So if the officer didn't take your account details down, am I right to say that if you didn't visit their office, it wouldn't have made a difference?

What I'm wondering is do I need to turn up in person just to tell them that I have no taxable offshore income to declare.
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post Mar 6 2019, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 5 2019, 08:06 PM)
Sorry can't advise you on this as  my foreign account could be too new and the officer didn't bother much.  My experience there could be different compared to others.
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Thanks for sharing, nevertheless.
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post Apr 3 2019, 07:40 PM

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Been some time since I came by, but it's been a stellar year for those of us who hung on! Just to share some good news-

https://www.theedgesingapore.com/us-based-e...ngapore-listing

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post Apr 4 2019, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Apr 4 2019, 01:00 AM)
Thanks sifu.. Stand by some fund to put some when it listed here.. Good to go?
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On the surface it sounds good but can't decide until I see more data, or read the prospectus.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 4 2019, 08:23 AM)
Thanks

But how can foreigners apply for this?
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We still can't I think, unless someone here has found a way. But seeing how most of the recent REITs have fared post-IPO (regardless of good or bad financial performance), I would wait to buy on the secondary market.
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post Apr 16 2019, 07:13 PM

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https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-...s-higher-q1-dpu

For those of us who picked it up under 0.60 last year, this translates to a yield of over 10% on purchase cost. Not bad.
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post Apr 16 2019, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 16 2019, 07:25 PM)
Cantik.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif You added last year?
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Yeah at 56 cents. I think a few of us here picked up eventhough we were not sure on the yield. But the question is resolved with this declaration.
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post Apr 16 2019, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 16 2019, 09:22 PM)
You picked up keppel KBS but not Manulife? Or you picked both?
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Keppel KBS and Cromwell. No Manulife. Did you pick up any of those?
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post Apr 17 2019, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 17 2019, 10:43 AM)
Another view of KEP KBS

Keppel-KBS US REIT falls short of IPO forecast with 1Q DPU of 1.50 US cents
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Stanislaus Jude Chan
16/04/19, 06:07 pm
SINGAPORE (Apr 16): The manager of Keppel-KBS US REIT (KORE) has announced distribution per unit (DPU) of 1.50 US cents (2.03 cents) for the 1Q19 ended March, unchanged from a year ago.

Actual 1Q19 DPU was 5.1% lower than the IPO forecast of 1.58 US cents, mainly due to an enlarged number of units.

Income available for distribution rose 30.7% to US$12.4 million in 1Q19, from US$9.5 million a year ago.

1Q19 gross revenue grew 24.2% to US$29.4 million, from US$23.7 million a year ago.

This was mainly attributable to contributions from two acquisitions as well as positive rental reversion and healthy leasing momentum.

KORE acquired the Westpark Portfolio in Seattle, Washington in November 2018, and the Maitland Promenade I in Orlando, Florida in January 2019.

Property expenses rose 24.9% to US$11.3 million, from US$9.0 million a year ago. The increase was mainly due to the enlarged portfolio and higher other property expenses such as higher amortisation of lease commissions and additional expenses incurred for snow removal.

Consequently, net property income for 1Q19 was 23.7% higher at US$18.2 million, compared to US$14.7 million in 1Q18.

However, net income for 1Q19 fell 48.7% to US$6.9 million, from US$13.5 million a year ago. This was large due to fair value losses in derivatives (interest rate swaps).

Fair value loss in derivatives amounted to US$3.8 million in 1Q19, compared to a gain of US$3.8 million in 1Q18.

As at end March, cash and cash equivalents stood at US$30.9 million.

KORE’s portfolio committed occupancy stood at 92.1% as at Mar 31, 2019.

The weighted average lease expiry by net lettable area (NLA) for KORE’s portfolio and top 10 tenants was 3.9 years and 5.4 years, respectively.

Looking ahead, KORE manager says the combination of low unemployment, rising wages and low inflation, in addition to the Federal Reserve’s more dovish stance and lower 10-year Treasury yields, points to a favourable operating environment for US REITs.

It notes that the US office market continued to register positive rent growth in 2018.

Against the backdrop of a challenging global macro-economic environment, KORE manager says it will continue to pursue its strategy of optimising its assets and strengthening its income stream.

Units of Keppel-KBS US REIT closed 2.0% lower at 72 US cents on Tuesday.

https://www.theedgesingapore.com/keppel-kbs..._eid=ef481bc352
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This viewpoint is valid from the perspective of a disgruntled of an IPO subscriber. But from the perspective of an investor during the rights issue, it's a fantastic quarter. The share price movement today concurs with this.
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post Apr 18 2019, 07:11 PM

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With all this talk about CRS/AEOI, does anyone know if the govt is aware of our stock holdings abroad? It's pretty clear that they know about our bank accounts, but what about our CDP/custodian holdings?

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