QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 1 2012, 03:40 AM)
Natural striker habit.. English Clubs Chelsea FC, BPL - Swansea 1 - 1 Chelsea
English Clubs Chelsea FC, BPL - Swansea 1 - 1 Chelsea
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Oct 1 2012, 02:51 AM
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Oct 1 2012, 10:13 AM
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Its a shame if we let sturridge go, but we cant blame him. He just want to play more games, rotating with torres is definitely not a good idea
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Oct 1 2012, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Sep 30 2012, 11:47 PM) We did have few offside goals being given to us. And some of that goals do bring us to the next level in a competition. Im not saying we should dive or cheat. But lets say if you scored with your hand, the ref gave it, if I were the player, I would just accept the decision. Thats it Haha ok move on if you know you are wrong, admit it. Football is not playing with "hand" my friend, is not like we can cheat if other acknowledge it? people are asking for a fair game, we try to kick racism out of the game, try to get technology into the game to get better judgment on the play. end of the day, it show your character, who you are, next time even if you score it with your body, people will assume it is your hand. Same goes to diving, if you keep play acting/diving in the penalty box, you wont get your decision next time even if you are getting faulted. you ll earn your respect if you win it with your hard work, sorry to say cheating is like stealing. |
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Oct 1 2012, 10:59 AM
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I know it’s still early in the season but i’m glad to say RDM has managed to banish some doubts that began to grow among many of us, including me. Come on now..who was expecting that attacking line-up vs arsenal? Yes it was what we hoped for, but as I recall many were expecting the mikel and lamps pivot to return and maybe even Bertrand out on the wing.Hazard, mata and Oscar all out against an in-form, attacking arsenal side? Phwoar. That’s delicious. I mean if it all went south, would we be complaining here? Most probably. But would it be as much as if we lost with a defensive line-up? That’s a definite no for me.
Hazard and mata were amazing. You could see why many arsenal fans are still sore they missed out on the latter. A perfectly timed 2 weeks leave (which was probably enforced, knowing how much the lad loves to play, so again it’s good management from Robbie) and he’s back firing on all cylinders. Fantastic setpieces taken on both goals, especially the second. The opener from nando was also crucial, he showed great technique to sweep that in from behind koscielny, and considering his view was also mostly blocked by luiz (who tried to head it in), it was a classy bit of finishing. What I liked most about our no.9’s showing was although he was dispossessed at times, he kept working hard, won many headers and linked up play well. Tempted to put that ‘miscued’ shot into your bloopers collection? Don’t. Look for the replay which shows the angle of his right foot as he was about to hit it. There was slight contact from koscielny, though I’m not sure if he meant it. Anyone who’s played futsal/football would know it doesn’t take much to mistime a shot when someone’s clipped you in mid-swing! Probably too soft for a penalty though. Should he have just tried to curl it in earlier? Yes. Rami struggled initially with the pace of the game, but once he caught up, you could see him turning on the jetpacks, and putting in the tackles. Undeserved yellow as well, I thought he won a fair number of tackles which were ruled against him, leading up to the booking. His partner in crime mikel was also on top form, keeping possession extremely well. Some incisive passing and interceptions, kept it simple and rarely had to venture forward. Terry and luiz were caught slightly off-guard when we conceded, but you have to credit gervinho for that slick move to get into space just in front of them. Gotta hand it to luiz, his positioning was flawless on many crosses that came in as he headed out ball after ball. JT put in a sound performance, especially with the media microscope firmly fixed on him these past few weeks. Ashley and brana coped surprisingly well with the speed on their flanks, but you could see when the Serbian ventures forward less, our right flank seems a lot more secure. Thought the crowd went easy on Ashley as well. Usually the boos are much louder. Cech saved our arses (pun intended) many times with seemingly impossible saves, and I loved how he made them look easy. Kept his poker face on, as if it was nothing. One blunder was when he came for a freekick but was miles away, and koscielny headed onto the bar. Could’ve been costly but the linesman wrongly flagged for offside. If it went in, prepare yourself for headlines about officials costing arsenal the match. A final word on our subs, with moses once again looking right at home with the pace of the game. Had some good dribbles, showed good strength and linked up well with nando for an overhit volley in the final minutes. Best cameo though goes to Bertrand for that superb dribble down the left, nutmegging jenkinson and pulling it back for hazard who had his shot blocked. The most satisfying part of the win is we didn’t go for an all out defensive mentality, AWAY against arsenal. That’s arsenal mates. The best passers in the EPL since like..I don’t know..10 years ago?! We played them at their own game by keeping possession and trying to work openings in the final third. Our counterattacks could’ve been better but that will come with time. Fuuhh what a match! |
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Oct 1 2012, 01:54 PM
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Oct 1 2012, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Oct 1 2012, 10:15 AM) offside goal it could be tricky at the time, but a hand goal you ll definitely know it, cause it hit your hand. LOL why so much hate for BA, is not like he did a MARADONA, yes the ball hit his hand and go in but is not like he deliberately using his hand to score, he was trying to head it but just miss it and the ball hit his hand and go in. I dont think i have seen any player that will raise his hand and admit it. This is a football match man there is so much deliberate cheating going on in the match like shirt pulling, hugging and every team very much did it. Referee are on the field for a reason. I dont see any problem on BA handball but those diving without contact should really be condemn. if you know you are wrong, admit it. Football is not playing with "hand" my friend, is not like we can cheat if other acknowledge it? people are asking for a fair game, we try to kick racism out of the game, try to get technology into the game to get better judgment on the play. end of the day, it show your character, who you are, next time even if you score it with your body, people will assume it is your hand. Same goes to diving, if you keep play acting/diving in the penalty box, you wont get your decision next time even if you are getting faulted. you ll earn your respect if you win it with your hard work, sorry to say cheating is like stealing. And you say it like you are so much of a saint, "cheating is stealing" so have you count how many times have you steal in your life yet ? This post has been edited by chitchat: Oct 1 2012, 04:56 PM |
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Oct 1 2012, 04:27 PM
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How can someone tolerate with cheating is beyond me. Unintended handball, off-side goal, ghost goal is one thing. That's what i see as pure luck or referee's mistake as human. But a deliberate handball ala Maradona or a dive to get Penalty is disgraceful. Doesn't matter who did it.. be it our best striker Drogba, best player in the world Ronaldo, best team in the world Barca or greatest football player ever in Maradona.
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Oct 1 2012, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Oct 1 2012, 04:08 PM) LOL why so much hate for BA, is not like he did a MARADONA, yes the ball hit his hand and go in but is not like he deliberately using his hand to score, he was trying to head it but just miss it and the ball hit his hand and go in. I dont think i have seen any player that will raise his hand and admit it. lol.. did you watch klose match against napoli? i think you can easily find those clips in youtube. You have never seen it, it doesn't means it wont happen. klose have bring this hand-ball things into a new level. if im not mistaken, there was a match where the ball did not pass the goal line, although referee gave it as a goal, but the awarded team confront the referee and admit that it didnt cross the line. QUOTE(chitchat @ Oct 1 2012, 04:08 PM) This is a football match man there is so much deliberate cheating going on in the match like shirt pulling, hugging and every team very much did it. Referee are on the field for a reason. I dont see any problem on BA handball but those diving without contact should really be condemn. sorry to say referee have only limited sight of view, as they might miss judge, that is why 'technology; have been put on the discussion for sometime to help referee decision.yes, it is a football match, many team try to cheat, but this is not the excuse for you to cheat. do you really need to wait others to stop cheating only you will stop to do so? QUOTE(chitchat @ Oct 1 2012, 04:08 PM) And you say it like you are so much of a saint, "cheating is stealing" so have you count how many times have you steal in your life yet ? stealing meaning get something that is not belong to yours, glory? hardwork? my life belongs to me, how can i steal my things? : end of the day, i believe in karma, they got awarded a hand goal, next time don't complain if other team awarded a hand goal against them. |
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Oct 1 2012, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Oct 1 2012, 04:55 PM) lol.. did you watch klose match against napoli? i think you can easily find those clips in youtube. You have never seen it, it doesn't means it wont happen. yup i havent heard of the KLOSE thingy (will google it out later), but i was just saying how many player will do it ? in football, KLOSE was the rare case, klose have bring this hand-ball things into a new level. if im not mistaken, there was a match where the ball did not pass the goal line, although referee gave it as a goal, but the awarded team confront the referee and admit that it didnt cross the line. sorry to say referee have only limited sight of view, as they might miss judge, that is why 'technology; have been put on the discussion for sometime to help referee decision. yes, it is a football match, many team try to cheat, but this is not the excuse for you to cheat. do you really need to wait others to stop cheating only you will stop to do so? stealing meaning get something that is not belong to yours, glory? hardwork? my life belongs to me, how can i steal my things? : end of the day, i believe in karma, they got awarded a hand goal, next time don't complain if other team awarded a hand goal against them. i also feel sorry for the referee too but their employer FIFA/UEFA/FA prefer the "human touch" than technology (video replay). This post has been edited by chitchat: Oct 1 2012, 05:31 PM |
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Oct 1 2012, 06:53 PM
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so next game is vs Danish champion rite?
are we going to do something like v MSK Zilina few years back (introducing some new players..? maybe Marin/ Cesar..) yalah debut tak dapat tengok. i dont think it's right to underestimate them(they're in the CL for some reasons = Good & decent team for sure)..but I would expect a 'job done'-winning mentality for this match. This post has been edited by syazwan: Oct 1 2012, 06:54 PM |
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Oct 1 2012, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Oct 1 2012, 10:15 AM) offside goal it could be tricky at the time, but a hand goal you ll definitely know it, cause it hit your hand. I agree. I especially despised those taking it for the team cheat.if you know you are wrong, admit it. Football is not playing with "hand" my friend, is not like we can cheat if other acknowledge it? people are asking for a fair game, we try to kick racism out of the game, try to get technology into the game to get better judgment on the play. end of the day, it show your character, who you are, next time even if you score it with your body, people will assume it is your hand. Same goes to diving, if you keep play acting/diving in the penalty box, you wont get your decision next time even if you are getting faulted. you ll earn your respect if you win it with your hard work, sorry to say cheating is like stealing. |
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Oct 1 2012, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Oct 1 2012, 04:08 PM) LOL why so much hate for BA, is not like he did a MARADONA, yes the ball hit his hand and go in but is not like he deliberately using his hand to score, he was trying to head it but just miss it and the ball hit his hand and go in. I dont think i have seen any player that will raise his hand and admit it. This is a football match man there is so much deliberate cheating going on in the match like shirt pulling, hugging and every team very much did it. Referee are on the field for a reason. I dont see any problem on BA handball but those diving without contact should really be condemn. how about theseAnd you say it like you are so much of a saint, "cheating is stealing" so have you count how many times have you steal in your life yet ? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 1 2012, 10:32 PM
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jenkinson dive is out of this world..usually people dive because there is contact..not this one..this is something special...
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Oct 1 2012, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Oct 1 2012, 10:32 PM) jenkinson dive is out of this world..usually people dive because there is contact..not this one..this is something special... haha sometimes i wonder did these player actually have "acting" class in their training schedule, seem like JENKINSON try to stretch his leg to clip A.COLE leg and make it like A.COLE tackle him but too bad he MISS Added on October 1, 2012, 11:20 pm QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 1 2012, 08:59 PM) Play acting and unintentional handball is 2 different thing, for me, play acting and no contact dive is also 2 different thing. Somehow i believe all club have told their player to make the most out of the foul which that why we see player lying on the floor for few sec even on the slight touch most of the times. I know is not nice to see but the truth that is already common in football, is up to the referee to blow foul or not. Ya is hard for referee to see, player who did it will always argue, "you are not the one getting tackle how u know pain or not ?" or "i did not dive, i just lose my balance". But when the video is out we all know what he did.Ok another scenario, if you play football you know is normal getting kick from the back once in a while and most of the times u feel the pain but is not enough to make you fall to the ground, but when thing get excessive and referee did not see most of times, will u still continue letting your opponent kick you or you rather fall on the ground and let the referee see ? will you blame the player kicking from behind or you blame the play acting one ? For me i leave it to the referee, if he blow foul or he blow penalty or fly the yellow for diving then so be it but of course these are with physical contact. I would also dare to say is hard to find a professional footballer that are 100% clean and did not play acting before in these situation. Those no contact dive, no contact play acting or intentionally play acting to get player carded really This post has been edited by chitchat: Oct 1 2012, 11:31 PM |
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Oct 2 2012, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(chillis_x @ Oct 1 2012, 10:25 PM) this is something new, he reinvented the art of diving, we shall call it "the jenkinson dive". i think, roman should forget about chasing falcao and get this guy instead. he'll win us countless spot kick. This post has been edited by Nabeyl: Oct 2 2012, 12:02 AM |
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Oct 2 2012, 02:10 AM
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Oct 1 2012, 10:47 PM) haha sometimes i wonder did these player actually have "acting" class in their training schedule, seem like JENKINSON try to stretch his leg to clip A.COLE leg and make it like A.COLE tackle him but too bad he MISS depend actually. to me its quite norm to see player kena contact bit but act like kena langgar by a truck.Added on October 1, 2012, 11:20 pm Play acting and unintentional handball is 2 different thing, for me, play acting and no contact dive is also 2 different thing. Somehow i believe all club have told their player to make the most out of the foul which that why we see player lying on the floor for few sec even on the slight touch most of the times. I know is not nice to see but the truth that is already common in football, is up to the referee to blow foul or not. Ya is hard for referee to see, player who did it will always argue, "you are not the one getting tackle how u know pain or not ?" or "i did not dive, i just lose my balance". But when the video is out we all know what he did. Ok another scenario, if you play football you know is normal getting kick from the back once in a while and most of the times u feel the pain but is not enough to make you fall to the ground, but when thing get excessive and referee did not see most of times, will u still continue letting your opponent kick you or you rather fall on the ground and let the referee see ? will you blame the player kicking from behind or you blame the play acting one ? For me i leave it to the referee, if he blow foul or he blow penalty or fly the yellow for diving then so be it but of course these are with physical contact. I would also dare to say is hard to find a professional footballer that are 100% clean and did not play acting before in these situation. Those no contact dive, no contact play acting or intentionally play acting to get player carded really Anyway these kind of thing must stop it spoil the games. it make the player not playing a more entertaining games as it use to be. no more excitement in penalty box areas. sigh. but full of acting and diving hopeful to get penalty. anyway what fab did disgust me. lucky he is in spain, if he was in england for sure FA going to ban hammer him several match. |
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