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English Clubs Chelsea FC, BPL - Swansea 1 - 1 Chelsea

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post Sep 18 2012, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 16 2012, 10:01 AM)
the last time a manager dropped the old guards to bench, he kena sacked riao. change ur tactic from high/long ball to flowing/short passing/tiki-taka watever u wanna name it. u guys are not westham/managed by sam allardyce.

stop blaming torres for not scoring. if there's no supply, dafuq is he gonna score? play to his strength. if u think torres not good enuf, why buy him at the first place for 50m quid? he aint god, he cant do this on his own.
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he cant hold the ball..as simple as that..if you cant hold and play the ball..then the play only will be one way..and usually stuck once the opponent understand the pattern..sturridge and drogba can hold the ball and play..he cant..yes..he is not good enough holding the ball..that doesnt make him a bad player..he must learn the skill..why we buy him?..because we can.. laugh.gif
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post Sep 18 2012, 11:29 PM

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a change of tactic and starting xi need to be done for juventus clash. lampard and torres should be drop to the bench. let sturridge play upfront.

hoping to see this lineup coming thursday.

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post Sep 19 2012, 01:01 AM

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yeah great, champions league is back. let's defend and retain our status as the king of europe this season. come on boys...
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post Sep 19 2012, 07:51 AM

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Chelsea boss Roberto Di Matteo has told striker Daniel Sturridge that he will get his chance to start up front for Chelsea soon.

comeon danny !
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post Sep 19 2012, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Sep 18 2012, 11:29 PM)
a change of tactic and starting xi need to be done for juventus clash. lampard and torres should be drop to the bench. let sturridge play upfront.

hoping to see this lineup coming thursday.

cech
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sturridge
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wow.. although Torres not that great in performance, but UCL starting with Sturridge? he havent show his real power yet this season oh.. hmm.gif
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post Sep 19 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(kiien_kyan @ Sep 19 2012, 09:39 AM)
wow.. although Torres not that great in performance, but UCL starting with Sturridge? he havent show his real power yet this season oh.. hmm.gif
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to be fair, sturridge haven't given the chances to prove his ability yet this season. 10minutes every now ann then is not enough for him to show his ability. + torres doing nothing for the past 2 games.
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post Sep 19 2012, 11:33 AM

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and torres didnt do anything in the pass 2 games simply because the supply was not there.

i really hope we play the high balls when sturridge is in. let us treat sturridge the same way when drogba is with us. and let see how can he do to cope with it.
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QUOTE(dynames07 @ Sep 19 2012, 11:33 AM)
and torres didnt do anything in the pass 2 games simply because the supply was not there.

i really hope we play the high balls when sturridge is in. let us treat sturridge the same way when drogba is with us. and let see how can he do to cope with it.
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sturridge good in high ball?
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post Sep 19 2012, 11:49 AM

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that is the same way we treat torres now. both torres and sturridge wanted the ball to their feet, not their head.

and yet people still asking why the hell torres is so ineffective when the real problem is not with him.

play to the strength of the player! then only talk whether he performed or not.
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post Sep 19 2012, 12:23 PM

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He is the reason I support Chelsea..


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He is using Essien to his potential now... ahead of picking Modric!
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post Sep 19 2012, 12:54 PM

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im tired of the "torres don't get the support from midfield thingy". as a striker, he should adapt with the way chelsea is playing by now. it been a year and a half for god sake. i rather give dannyboy the oppurtunity against juventus.

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Sep 19 2012, 12:54 PM)
im tired of the "torres don't get the support from midfield thingy". as a striker, he should adapt with the way chelsea is playing by now. it been a year and a half for god sake. i rather give dannyboy the oppurtunity against juventus.
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there are lots of proven case where players dont adapt because of gamestyle & u cant ask them to change the gamestyle in few days/months/years.
because it's their style since like what...kids?

not many players can change the gameplay style easily.

sheva, crespo...veron (2 clubs..still failed to adapt style? fair to say he's NOT FIT to the system)..
Zlatan (WORLD CLASS STRIKER cant adapt to Barcelona?? like whuutt?? )
Henry
Hleb

& list goes on.

and bear in mind..usually coaches & manager who's the one dealing with transfers so that he know the player can fit the team style or not.
our case is a bit special & i'm pretty sure it's not uncle carlo decision to bring torres previously.
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QUOTE(syazwan @ Sep 19 2012, 01:03 PM)
there are lots of proven case where players dont adapt because of gamestyle & u cant ask them to change the gamestyle in few days/months/years.
because it's their style since like what...kids?

not many players can change the gameplay style easily.

sheva, crespo...veron (2 clubs..still failed to adapt style? fair to say he's NOT FIT to the system)..
Zlatan (WORLD CLASS STRIKER cant adapt to Barcelona?? like whuutt?? )
Henry
Hleb

& list goes on.

and bear in mind..usually coaches & manager who's the one dealing with transfers so that he know the player can fit the team style or not.
our case is a bit special & i'm pretty sure it's not uncle carlo decision to bring torres previously.
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and why is he still in our starting xi when clearly he can't contribute much? i prefer we give the opportunity to others. dannyboy yet to start in any game iinm. let him prove himself. gv him the same amount of chances as what been given to torres.
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Sep 19 2012, 01:22 PM)
and why is he still in our starting xi when clearly he can't contribute much? i prefer we give the opportunity to others. dannyboy yet to start in any game iinm. let him prove himself. gv him the same amount of chances as what been given to torres.
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i bet that i don't knw anything coz i;m not on the training ground everyday.
first team selection is not just abt ur performance.
it's also depends on attitude during training, discipline etc etc.. the criteria which the coach thinks is good for him.

We don't know. & to answer u..i'm pretty sure dannyboy style also not like drogba where u can feed those highballs.

i wont retract my comments earlier..rotation is fine..but not for the sake of rotating je nak rotate2..maybe Yes it's the right time to rotate Torres? IDK.


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Whats with you guys with feeding sturridge with high balls hahahha? He aint targetman material lah hahaha
Torres aint as well but hes very good using his chest during his liverpool time. Oh and they got xabi alonso. Now hes just log in chelsea hahaha
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post Sep 19 2012, 01:59 PM

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you all mumbling about torres when the real culprit is mikel and lampard.

all those backpasses and sideway passes is making the fullbacks left nothing but to give long ball ahead of them.

i dont f***ing think mikel will be dropped. i really hate his way of playing. pardon for the rude language, but he ought to be dropped.

oh and, make some experiment of the team please instead of playing terry,mikel,lampard,torres for all the games.

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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Sep 19 2012, 01:59 PM)
you all mumbling about torres when the real culprit is mikel and lampard.

all those backpasses and sideway passes is making the fullbacks left nothing but to give long ball ahead of them.

i dont f***ing think mikel will be dropped. i really hate his way of playing. pardon for the rude language, but he ought to be dropped.
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agreed with ur point.
these two are too slow to initiate attack.
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QUOTE(Rhicebowl @ Sep 19 2012, 01:48 PM)
Whats with you guys with feeding sturridge with high balls hahahha? He aint targetman material lah hahaha
Torres aint as well but hes very good using his chest during his liverpool time. Oh and they got xabi alonso. Now hes just log in chelsea hahaha
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post Sep 19 2012, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Rhicebowl @ Sep 19 2012, 01:48 PM)
Whats with you guys with feeding sturridge with high balls hahahha? He aint targetman material lah hahaha
Torres aint as well but hes very good using his chest during his liverpool time. Oh and they got xabi alonso. Now hes just log in chelsea hahaha
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bolded part: that is the main point.

i am 100% sure sturridge cannot play well when we feed him with high balls. the same with torres. lets forget about how good torres was while he is a liverpool player. the reality is in front of us. we ain't history channel right? either play him to his strength, or sell him.

these players are world class. they must have an area where they excel at. why barca did not feed messi with high balls? unless you got ronaldo up front which IMO, the nearly perfect attacking player at the moment.

with regards to lampard and mikel, to be honest, i wish mikel to stay and to change lampard with oscar. real problem is lampard because on paper, he is now clearly a DM (deep playmaker) which logically, should provide a better cover for our back four. but in reality, lampard's tendency to get forward is too much and when is upfront (lampard is running or jogging), mikel will be left alone battling with 3-4 attacking players. and obviously, he looks bad in this situation.

i don't mind we give dannyboy a chance. he deserved it. but we cannot change anything if we play the same as we got drogba in our team.

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