DrTay, just curious to know if the defects have been rectified satisfactorily by the developer.

TS .. answered here .. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2525856/+20

im also asking there, but no reply

Yes, there was no mention about the defects being rectified at all.

hmm...it is a very nice condo everytime I passed by Old Klang road but with lousy developer!! Should blacklisted this developer!

There are a few facts which need to be clarified before proper advices can be dispense.

1) sewerage and water piping are two different pipings and they should not mix. If you are certain that it is sewerage that's coming out from your floor, then it is rather weird that they would get CFO in the first place.

2) there is always warranty on your unit. But to be certain, you need to make sure that the root cause is not a bad neighbour who is clogging up the water piping due to throwing rubbish into the water outlet. If it is really the cause, you cannot sue the developer.

3) No point for you to see the director. If you feel that you have been "scammed" then sue them. That is probably the best way to get some attention.

tis 1 same developer with 1120?

Hi All,

I apologize for not replying to you earlier, I did not know you guys have posted questions until just now.

Well, after I made a big hoo haa in the office, the director finally replied my email and said that this is again caused by debris that has accumulated and blocked the drain. According to her, this is not a defect from the developer, otherwise they wouldnt have got the CF. she said it is an unfortunate event caused by the debris dumped by somebody above my unit. The developer also mentioned earlier in Dec when the second incident happened, the sewage and the shower piping are separated BUT are connected at the bottom floor, so it is normal for the back flow of both sewage and shower water from the shower drain when the pipe is clogged. She added that, it has nothing to do with them, so they won't compensate any damages caused, and she also checked with the condo management, the condo insurance does not cover such flooding damage.

She arranged the plumber to divert the drain out to another pipe, and she emphasized they are only doing it out of good willingness. The plumber at first kept mumbling that the piping was not done nicely, that's what caused the problem, and he said even the diversion of the drainage piping CANNOT guarantee the shitty problem won't happen again, if the upstairs people throw rubbish into the drain again. But after he diverted the pipe (it's now visible outside the building), he said 100% that shitty problem won't happen again.

However, many other first floor units also experienced the similar problem, but not that severe, as in the water cannot flow down the drain, or the sewage water back flow but only small amount. And we had never heard of such incidents in other high rise buildings before. That's why many think that this shitty problem is also has something to do with their shoddy poor plumbing work. Anyway, the plumber from developer himself did said that the previous plumber didn't do a good job in the plumbing work. That's why many had advised me to sue the developer.

I will be writing a letter to the developer to ask for a letter of guarantee. But I think it will be quite hard to get that. Because they always ignore my emails anyway. Only the director replied my emails(but that is after I visited the office). I have recently sent in emails asking why their re-paint cannot cover the water marks(caused by water leaking in the ceiling, and the second shower room), it has been a week now, but no reply, as usual.

I have decided not to take legal actions, because it's going to be a long process, and I can't afford to go through that, it's just too stressful, and I might not be able to afford paying the legal fees. The shitty problems and the defects that I found every few months are just stressful enough.

Thank you all for your concerns. So, I can say its considered the shitty problem is fixed for now. And my advice is, avoid buying from this developer, after all the bad experience I had with the unit and the developer.

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Added on October 11, 2012, 5:26 amI will post the pictures when I get a laptop, my current laptop is spoilt, so im using ipad to online, and I don't know how to upload the pics to LYN on my iPad/iPhone.

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Added on October 11, 2012, 5:34 amYes.

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Added on October 11, 2012, 5:38 amThis post has been edited by DrTay: Oct 12 2012, 12:39 AM

DrTay, thank you for the update.

I am one of the buyers of 1120 Park Avenue built by the same Peter's Group and I am of course concerned although deep inside me I knew this is the risk we all have to take when living in a condo/apartment with inconsiderate & wilful neighbours.

I hope all forummers who read this topic would appreciate the potential problems faced by their neighbours if they indiscriminately dumped solid construction debris or waste into the toilet or kitchen sink.