can't believe this 

Have to say, not much footballers will deliberately go for goal like how cleverly did so yesterday. I will go with evans and saf. Lol cleverly nice try

What happen to Ravel?LOL.4 teams in a year already. Such a wasted talent.

He can single handedly win games for you. He can get goals, he can dribble, and can play through passes.. everything he does just looks natural and effortless and on the pitch wasn't that selfish(he's a good dribbler, so their kinds do tend to overdribble a bit). He and Pogba truly had everything. It's a real shame Pogba didn't have the patience to wait, and in Ravel's case, don't learn to appreciate the talent and chance that he has to change his behaviour/attitude towards making it big.



DAMN IT!

I believe Shawcross actually deserves a spot in current defenders that they have (with Cahill Lescott Jagielka). Maybe the fact he's playing in Stoke which is lesser team compare the others affect Roy's judgement, it won't take many seasons before he's moving to a big club imo. *tbh I hope that big club is United 

http://www.goal.com/en-my/news/3890/englan...ce=breakingnews

woo.. apparently man utd considering to sell vidic for 33 mil...
this reminds me of jaap stam which gotten the boot before his due time too..

but 33 mil.. hmm who could we buy with that.. not much all star CB around.. mats hummels? his fm stats are good.. but havent seen him in real life.. hahah

yeah man..33m is a lot for a 30 years old defender..
maybe i play too much fm already.. cos i would accept straight if i get that
saying so, dortmund not gonna sell hummels on the cheap.. i think he just signed a contract for 5 years or sth

11/10/12: Nemanja Vidic will definitely not part ways with United, according to the Serbian's agent Silvano Martina. “Vidic is already part of a top club and there are no negotiations with Juventus or Barcelona,” Martinia told the Italian media. “Nemanja is not playing at this time because he's had surgery, so he's only thinking about his recovery and not about the transfer market.”

You could see what Hogdson tried to do last night. Milner and Gerrard are first choice, so they will play. While Gerrard is still performing, being captain of the side, he's gonna start most of their games when fit in the middle. Ox is still young(blows hot and cold) and they have hardly any other options there they shun Cleverley down the left. He can play there and when out on loan played out wide most of the time. Makes sense I suppose. But as we see last night, didn't work.. like most of their previous games bar a few under all managers they had. Yet they still try to play the tried and trusted players. Lampard-Gerrard combo last time again? Come on! Cleverley being a regular for us will help his case.. but until Hodgson have a bit more balls, it will be normal crappy England. Just enough to qualify/win, but hardly dominating like they should. Defoe, Milner, etc..they should be on the bench at most IMO.

United overturned a goal against the run of play to defeat Bolton 2-1 in the Manchester Senior Cup at Altrincham's Moss Lane.

Larnell Cole provided the crosses for both goals with Nick Powell and Federico Macheda making it six points out of six in the competition for the top-of-the-table Reds.

United took a little while to get the passing game going although Larnell Cole looked bright from the outset. Powell had the first effort but shot over the bar after a neat spin while Jesse Lingard also mustered an attempt on the turn that tested Lewis Fielding.

Bolton's clearest opening in the first half fell to Gregg Wylde, who found himself through on Sam Johnstone's goal but the keeper was out quickly to block the finish. The Reds regained control as Macheda's snap-shot again worked Fielding before the Italian striker rolled agonisingly wide from Lingard's perfect through pass.

That proved to be the closest the two sides came to a goal before the half-time whistle although Lingard did force Fielding to tip a stinging drive over the top when Powell escaped with what looked a clear foul in midfield.

Warren Joyce's side began the second half with much more purpose and should have broken through. Michael Keane's goalbound shot was blocked by Oscar Threlkeld and Powell's 30-yard scorcher was matched by Fielding's save. Somehow Wanderers survived a Tom Thorpe header and dangerous Powell centre and Lingard twice failed to finish, with the second opening coming after a brilliant run through the middle and a return pass from Cole.

Completely against the run of play, Ben Hampson rose to head a Wylde corner into the net to stun the  home crowd and play became very scrappy after the goal with a couple of stoppages for injuries to Bolton players. Lingard blazed a volley over the bar as the Reds struggled to mount a sustained response until the 78th minute.

Good work by Ryan Tunnicliffe and Lingard allowed Cole to scamper down the right and deliver a hanging cross that was crying out for a finish and Powell nodded in a rare headed goal for the former Crewe youngster. United were in full flow and Macheda completed the turnaround following another Cole assist, the top scorer taking a touch to control it before hammering past Fielding and high into the net for his sixth strike of the campaign.

The impressive Cole almost added a third when showing great poise inside a crowded box but his drive clipped the bar as the hosts certainly deserved the victory on the overall balance of play.

United: Johnstone; Veseli, M.Keane, Fornasier, McGinty; Cole, Thorpe, Tunnicliffe, Powell, Lingard; Macheda. Subs not used: Januzaj, Sutherland, Blackett, James, Barmby.

He's never been a regular, so what has changed? Don't get me wrong. He's a good striker, no one would deny that, but he's hardly RVP/RVN/Owen(young version) level. He's two tiers below that, and on his good days a level below those players. A bit inconsistent too in his career. Scores lots of goals one season, then slow down next season..repeat process. To be fair to him though, Spurs changed a lot of their players each season, so no surprise I guess.

If it's at Wembley where you would expect England to have a bit more possessions, sure, but it's away at Poland. Considering their poor form usually in these kind of games, you would have thought after seeing what the new guys can do, he would trust them in terms of build up play. Welbeck would help a lot in that regard. But no, back to the same old same old pass it to the wingers and cross it into the box routine and that route one from back straight punt uphill for Defoe to chase. Sigh. To play it safe, Cleverley plays wide instead of Ox. He rewards Cleverley's good performance by including him in the first 11, and there's no way he gonna drop Gerrard, so out wide it is.

http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/565903/Li...-Poland-England
Defoe
67mins on the pitch
Total passes attempted: 8

Not totally his fault because England struggled to create anything and that's their game plan. Feed Defoe. Defoe.. try to run in behind all the time, thats the only way you know how to play anyways.
And thus it resulted in a poor game. Standard England's performance over the years. They never learn. They laud the Spanish and Barca way of playing, but when players that are coming though can play a bit of those stuff, they still go for their normal way of playing. WTF.
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I like how so many Man Utd fans love to brag.

and then people wonder why we always get attacked.
anyhoo.

Defoe, I have to say, is a really explosive striker (not in terms of Baloltelli meletup) but when he performs, he really means it. Inconsistency is what makes his progress a bit down.

He's 30 this year. But enough about Defoe. I personally did not watch the England v Poland match, but I'm hoping that Carrick and Cleverley, inclusive of Rooney too.

defeo is a good striker. Depends how you judge him actually. For his small stature he is often played as a single one upfront by redknapp and imho its not a particularly good tactic but the thing is he still manages to do so well. He is much like eto using speed and position and smart run to score goals. His goals usually spectacular need to dribble past defenders. Diff between him and eto is that eto was at barca with better ball feeders.

Ashley Young is fit to return to the United squad for Saturday's Barclays Premier League encounter with Stoke City.

The England winger suffered a knee injury during the win against Fulham in the first home game of the season but has been back in training and is in contention to feature in the Old Trafford clash against the Potters.

"Everyone came back from the internationals fit," declared Sir Alex. "Which is a bonus. It is always a time when you're a bit concerned about getting the players back but, fortunately, we've been lucky this time. Also Ashley Young is fit. Chris Smalling is not quite there but is making progress.

"Young gives us another option. As I’ve said many times over the last few weeks, the strength of our squad is the attacking options we have and we’re getting better with Darren Fletcher coming back which has been terrific for him and for us. There has been some progress with players like Nick Powell, who is progressing well, as is Tom Cleverley and Anderson is getting better all the time so all the fears about the midfield positions are evaporating quite well.

"I wouldn’t say Young has been forgotten," insisted the boss. "It’s always the same when a player gets injured, he’s not there so they can be out of people’s minds. Young has shown his qualities.

"Very few players can cross the ball as well as he can and his goalscoring ratio is very good for us. Didn’t he get 11 goals for us last season? For a wide player that’s very good. I don’t think you can underestimate that or forget it. I think any player coming to our club with ability and who also had a good record at Aston Villa will have the determination to do well.

Honestly i think Defoe is a good striker, but his style of play doesn't suit the game against Poland. Striker like Welbeck can pull the defend away from the goal if the opposite team playing 10 man behind the ball while Defoe is definitely gonna have a hard time playing in a game like that because his the type of striker that play behind the defence, relying on his sharp-shooting accuracy. If it was a more open game (Germany, Portugal) maybe Defoe gonna have the chance to shoot and scores, but in a game with defense-minded team when all they play was counter-attacking football, Defoe wont get much chances to even get the ball let alone pass/shoot. Striker like Welbeck, Rooney that often switches position and dragging the marker in and out the box is the kind of striker that can open up defense.

The reason Defoe can score lots of goal in club's form is because Spurs playing counter-attacking football, with Bale and Lennon, Walker to stretch the defense while he can get behind the CB to try shoot at the goal. That's the only way he plays, given his relatively small stature. Another striker of the similar mould is Bent and maybe Saha. Score goals, but cant open up a 6-men-in-the-box.

Let's face it, England don't have a winger with trickery and magic. Most of them rely on pace (Lennon, Walcott) to get behind the defender. A striker like Welbeck can draw the opponent out instead of drawing them in (Walcott, Lennon, Defoe). Some left was Adam Johnson and maybe Oxlade-Chamberlain. The latter's I think wasn't ready for a senior game / tournament. He's certainly lacks the consistency required. Sometimes he can do magic, but most of the times it didn't happened. Of course he may be England's most exciting weapon since Walcott or Rooney, but defo not now, given time and exposure at Arsenal, he can mature and be the starting XI for England in major tournament.

And Carrol. He's the only 9 England left after Crouch. Another option if Woy decided to play hoof ball when facing a defense-minded team.

Just one or two International games? He's been ever present in EPL. We know enough about him already. Nothing's changed. He didn't instantly turn out to be this super awesome where everyone take notice. He's just the same as he was before. I think Bale is a very good player. Great on his day. In their respective positions, I rate him higher than Defoe. It has nothing to do with him playing just for Spurs. If he's 'that' good, I would say so. Like Robbie Keane, good player, but not a top one. No shame in that. Not everyone is a Henry/Shearer/RVN/Owen(Liverpool days)/Rooney/Tevez level.

As for Rooney, sure he was poor in the Euro's. No denying that. But people don't judge just on one or two games.

In that type of game, it was a poor choice IMO. You know what he can do, and what he can't. And that type of games require far more than just speed and run in behind. It'll be a while before anything good happens for England if they still do it the same old way. They're lucky the players coming through are good ones(Wilshere, Cleverley, Welbeck, Ox, Smalling, Jones etc). But as we saw with the golden generations, it will just pass them by like that without anything to show.