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prophetjul
post Sep 6 2012, 09:04 PM

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This thread should be titled M-REITs....
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post Oct 3 2012, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 3 2012, 09:41 AM)
You don't need to post the same thing in 2 different topic....  sign0014.gif
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some ppl call this PUMPin....OR issit PIMPin? hmm.gif
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post Oct 31 2012, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Oct 31 2012, 03:36 PM)
To all of you REIT experts here, I have a question that I hope you all can help me with:

Why should I buy lower-yielding REITs (Pavilion, Sunway, CMMT, IGB) compared to higher-yielding REITs?

One reason I can think of is what Cheeroy said above:
Can someone else enlighten me on other reasons? I'm going to make a purchase soon and will probably split my money between the top yielding ones unless there's a strong reason not to

Thanks for your help
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Look nomore than SREITs for high yields........ no withholding tax over there.


http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2504121

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post Oct 31 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Oct 31 2012, 04:07 PM)
why not invite him to sg reits thread? ask him read that first to compared him/herself !! nod.gif
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Done! thumbup.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 6 2012, 10:10 AM)
Maybe after Rights Issue, need to "re-calculate" a lower dividend payout ?
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Only takes a sec to calculate that? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 28 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(KSFONG @ Dec 26 2012, 08:04 PM)
IGB reits is marching towards 1.35.
Upwards o downwrads? tongue.gif

From Rm1.44 to present.......
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post Dec 28 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 28 2012, 11:48 AM)
Dont worry- 2013 September - wait Garden Mall tenancy renewal can see big jump: cross finger ...next year Xmas gift. whistling.gif  from Santa Clause
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Wait for ONE YEAR at Rm1.33? ohmy.gif
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post Dec 28 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 28 2012, 02:04 PM)
9 month onli.....Else i tell next month- didnt come thru.....SPOILED the EGG
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9 months later..........no show......how?
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post Dec 28 2012, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 28 2012, 04:10 PM)
No Idea....Maybe bring my wife go shopping there more.  thumbup.gif
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Better vbring your wife's sib;ings, nephews, neices, inlaws, etc to help out.... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 4 2013, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jan 4 2013, 10:02 AM)
er.. sorry to budge in ar.

Simple thinking of Net Asset Value (NAV) or NAPS (Net Asset Per Share) for REITs is similar to properties buying.
eg.
1. If a house is worth $2,000,000 would U want to buy it at $2M, $2.1M or $1.8M?

2. Mapping the worth to stocks issued:
Say the house is owned by MKREIT and MKREIT issued 1,000,000 stocks to the public
thus the the NAPS or NAV is $2M value / 1M stock units = $2

3. Thus, would U buy MKREIT at $2, $2.10 or $1.80 per unit of stock?

No right/wrong yar - just fleshing out the concept
To more learned ones (plenty abound i'm sure), if i'm mistaken, please correct me & help us learn ya  notworthy.gif
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if i may add why stock price/NAV is important for REITs.

REITs normally have lots of borrowings. Their borrowings are given ratings based on their asset quality.

IF IF there was an asset depreciation due to financial downturns etc, quality assets will be able to
mitigate NAV depreciation better.
When assets deprecaite and NAV is affected, so are their ratings. This brings up the costs of borrowings
PLUS they may have to top up their risk profile for the borrowers as most borrowings are dependant
on their NAV.
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post Jan 4 2013, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jan 4 2013, 12:10 PM)
DPU could be affected ( lower  in rare cases )  due to  the vast  depreciation in asset values,  such as when the actual market values of properties dropping  ways belong its book values.

It happens quite a number of times  in HK,  when the economies were really bad at times.

Surprisingly, u may see only  Revaluation Surpluses in MREIT so far ( correct me if I am wrong ).
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DPU could be decreased due to the earnings being retained to balance out the borroeing risks.

As for MREITs, i have no idea whether they could be revalued upwards or downwards.
If and when economies tank, 1st to get hit are properties.
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post Jan 4 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(avatar123 @ Jan 4 2013, 01:44 PM)
Hmm this make me worry, as my 80% hard earned moneys goes into different types of reits. Solely because of the dividend yield.
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Hi....pls do not worry UNLess

you think economy will tank........this is worst scenario. We were discussin on the
implications of NAV smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 4 2013, 02:51 PM)
Yup, if property market plunge, reit NAV may need to be revalued downwards.

As there is reit guideline that revaluation on property need to be done every 3 year (if not mistaken).

Revaluation surplus or not should not be a major consideration, but stable lease yield is the most important factor.
cherroy

the thing is this: If the NAV depreciates, how does it affect the borrowings of the REIT?

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post Jan 4 2013, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 4 2013, 03:48 PM)
Unless it hit the threshold of 50% of its NAV, then based on the reit guideline, reit needs to trim down the borrowing to meet the 50% guideline.

How to trim down?
1. Right issue, private placement
2. Reduce the DPU to 90% instead of >90% or some at 95~100% currently. Unlikely below 90% as it triggers the tax exemption issue.
3. Sell property in the portfolio and the repay the borrowing.

If not hitting threshold of 50%, basically nothing is affected.

That's why once reit hit 40% and above, reits may plan trim down the borrowing, previously eg. Amfirst, Axreit.
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Thanks! thumbup.gif

Instead of borrowings going up, the NAV is depreciating, thus the threshold is compressing.

Sales of assets lead to DPU reduction........
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post May 16 2013, 02:27 PM

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REITs, Trusts and Stapled Securities


What is the difference between a REIT and a Property Trust? What about REITs and Stapled Securities?

Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs), Property Trusts and Stapled Securities are three different vehicles that a security investor can get into property investments. But some investors are fond of using these terms loosely without understanding the fundamental differences between them. In fact, it is not uncommon to see even respected mainstream media confusing these terms and using them interchangeably and inappropriately.

It does not help that these terms are not regulated by the authorities. A REIT could call itself a Trust and similarly a property trust could call itself a REIT without having the obligation of operating as one as per the guidelines stipulated by regulators.

In this article we will present to you the key differences between these 3 types of securitized real estate investments and why it matters that you understand the nature of each carefully in order to make an informed investment decision.

REITs

In most jurisdictions, in order for a collective property investment to call itself a REIT it must pay out a minimum of 90 percent of its rental income to unit holders annually. This comes on the back of requirements of minimum assets sizes and restrictions on business activities. REITs are also subjected to limits on the amount of loans that they can take. In Singapore, the gearing limit is 35 percent for REITs with a credit rating and 60 percent for REITs that are unrated.

The regulations imposed on REIT are enforceable by the authorities and listed REITs are subjected to a high degree of transparency and scrutiny by the government and unit holders alike.

With so much restrictions, why does a collective property investment bother to go through the trouble of manifesting itself as a REIT? The short answer - favorable tax treatments. As long as a REIT satisfies the conditions stipulated by regulators, it is exempted from corporate taxes and duties that are usually leveled against property investments companies. This means more income from your properties overall despite the stricter amount of regulations that you will have to comply with

Property Trusts

Listed Property Trusts are also collective property investments that pool money from unit holders primarily to invest in income producing real estate. Rental income is similarly distributed to unit holders after deducting costs such as management fees and other overhead. Like REITs, Property Trusts are also by collective investment codes and other regulations that may be imposed by the bourses in which they are listed.

However, and herein the most important difference between REITs and Property Trusts, is that Property Trusts are not obligated to pay out a minimum amount of its rental income to unit holders. It is also not subjected to the leverage and asset size limits that REITs are imposed with. This means that should a Trust manager decide that business is bad for a particular year, it may not distribute any rental income and unit holders can be left with no income distribution for the units they hold at the end of the financial year. Property Trusts do not receive the same types of favorable tax rulings that REITs enjoy.

Examples of Property Trusts in Singapore that have often been confused as REITs by the media include the recently-listed Croesus Retail Trust and Perrenial China Retail Trust

Stapled Securities

In the context of securitized property investments, Stapled Securities are listed property investment securities that can be a bundle combination of either REITs, Property Trusts units or even property stocks.

This commonly happens when a securitized property investment vehicle decides to apply a REIT model to a certain segment of its property portfolio while taking on a Trust model for another segment to form a single trade-able unit known as the Stapled Security. In this manner, the manager of the Stapled Security need to be bound by REIT regulations only for the segment of the portfolio that adopts the REIT model. He is then free to pursue other plans for the properties that do not require compliance to REIT regulations. Hence a Stapled Security is obligated to pay a the minimum amount of rental to unit holders only for the properties that are adhering to a REIT structure.

An example of a Stapled Security is Singapore-listed CDL Hospitality Trusts which comprises of CDL Hospitality Real Estate Investment Trust and CDL Hospitality Business Trust. Another prominent example of a Stapled Security in this region is the KLCC REIT in Malaysia that comprises of REIT units and property stocks of KLCC Property Holdings Berhad (KLCCP).

Stapled Securities are similarly bound by listing and reporting regulations that may be imposed the the respective bourses.

These are the salient differences between a REIT, a Property Trust and a Stapled Security. Several more technical differences exist between the three but its full breadth will not be covered by this short article. But the main features covered above will help you to make a more informed decision as an investor.
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Weighted Average Lease to Expiry (WALE)
One of the bigger risks of managing commercial properties is vacancy. When a property, or parts of a property, is left vacant for too long, property income and distribution to shareholders will be affected. This is where the metric WALE comes in handy as an assessment tool.

Weighted Average Lease to Expiry (WALE) is used to measure the overall tenancy risks of a particular property with multiple tenants and is used by REIT investors to assess the likelihood of a property being vacated. In other parts of the world, other abbreviations such as WALT (Weighted Average Lease Term) and WAULT (Weighted Average Unexpired Lease Term) are sometimes used and practically means the same thing. In the Asia Pacific region, investors are more accustomed to WALE.

WALE is measured across all the tenants remaining lease in years in a property and is weighted by either the tenant’s lettable area or the tenant’s income against the total combined area or income of the other tenants.

Most investors are of the opinion that the longer the WALE is the better. But depending on your investment objectives, this may not necessarily be the case:

Commercial buildings with long WALE, typically of being 5 years or more, usually have the commitments of large tenants such as government departments or multinational corporations. They have little to worry about in terms of vacancy risk but larger tenants would usually mean that the property will not be able to negotiate for rent hikes as much as a property with smaller tenants. Therefore there will be a limitation in terms of internal growth.

Commercial buildings with shorter WALE, typically of between 1 to 4 years, usually have smaller businesses as their tenants who do not commit to lease terms of longer than 5 years. There is higher vacancy risk as compared to a property with larger tenants. But commercial properties like these are generally able to manifest more robust growth internally through periodic rent hikes, resulting in better growth in property income. But do bear in mind that commercial properties with shorter WALE may face higher costs in terms of leasing agent fees, advertising fees and legal fees.

So if robust internal income growth is your preference, REITs with long WALE may not exactly work in your favor. But if you are after predictability and stability of income, REITs with longer WALE may be your best bet.
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post May 31 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE
•However, the recent S-REITs 2012 rally was primarily fuelled by QE-inflated asset values and ample liquidity, and not so much driven by underlying fundamentals such as strong DPU growth or rental upside, in our view.


You can make this statement for most equity markets! biggrin.gif

Lookie at the US mkts.....on QE steroids~!
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post Jul 18 2013, 08:24 AM

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Pavilion Reit price has fallen quite substantially from its high of 1.64 to 1.4 presently. Are there any negative news?


Disclaimer: I do not own Pav reits

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post Jul 18 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 18 2013, 09:52 AM)
Generally, reit has been sold down worldwide due to rise in treasuries yield, bond yield.

Reit is always compete with bond yield.

If reit yield is less attractive compared to high quality bond yield, investors may dump reit and opt for bond.
There is always a spread between reit and bond yield.
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Has there been a general sell down of Msian Reits?

I have not been tracking them cept for Pav Reit.


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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Jul 18 2013, 02:38 PM)
It is open to real estate risk. Asset price might not be that critical at the end of the day, but in a downturn, rental will be lowered, tenant population dropped or collection can't sustain the opex, etc... Maybe in short term rental yield might not be affected due to contractual agreement, but in long term can see the yield depreciate.
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Asset price will affect the NAV.

If I am not mistaken(stand to be corrected), there are regulations which guides the MAX DEBT gearing against
the NAV.

IF those REITs which are highly geared find their asset DEvalued and their NAV dives,
they will have to raise funds or sell to bring down their gearing.

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