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felixmask
post Apr 23 2013, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(marketstore @ Apr 23 2013, 08:15 PM)
a lot of negative comment on reits in the star and edge today....
i tot of investing in reits now....need t othink back
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depend how you long you want to hold and what your expectation.
The negative sentiment becoz the yield hv suppress when the price go higher. Except you hv confident price will drop till your TP.
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post Apr 23 2013, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(marketstore @ Apr 23 2013, 08:51 PM)
what is TP
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Target Price.
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post Apr 23 2013, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(marketstore @ Apr 23 2013, 08:57 PM)
ar baru i faham...how do you decide on target price...you choose you own or based on investment company like maybank, hwang, rhb
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have to see what stock you want. I juz share my 2sen.


When a mall reits is stable and there is wont any reason the mall reits will drop drastically the reason no point waiting. Your LUCK can queue for 1-3 tick / your TP when someone sell match your buying price. You may put down very LOW TP, you may not get and you miss the boat.


In other hand for Office mall - you may heard of oversupply office in KL, then is possible turrning point investor wont want to chase the office mall. Result you may see the yield higher.


to see the malaysia reits yield : http://mreit.reitdata.com/

For other type of stock non reits, like bank, plantation , telco and etc you may need to study and require fundamental understanding or TA( playing short term stock)

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post Apr 23 2013, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(marketstore @ Apr 23 2013, 09:18 PM)
i am planning for long tern actually....
i am a bit confused how the yield is higher when investors dont chase office reits....
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most office reits yield more higher than mall reits. Up to investor apatite what to invest.
The only concern/risk office reits is oversupply.

You may need to study the occupancy rate for each reits.

Up to your expectation and holding power.

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post Apr 23 2013, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(marketstore @ Apr 23 2013, 09:33 PM)
another quick question...do ppl do DCA on reits
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yes, depend fundamental of the stock.
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post May 3 2013, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 3 2013, 05:45 PM)
klci dropped 20 pts, yet no change for reit prices. wonder if it means local reits are fundamentally strong or just sterile. tongue.gif
we'll see on 6 may... biggrin.gif
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klci drop ppl still go shopping, have to expect more like nuclear strike.
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post May 7 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 7 2013, 01:35 PM)
post ge13, klci up >60pts, most reits still zzzzz.... biggrin.gif

except axis, after ex-date, back to 370. thumbup.gif
sunreit is doing good at 165 or so.
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klci >60PTS becoz Foreign Fund like those GLC and KLCI index.

Seldom FF focus at reits and furthmore the yield depress below 5% pa.

http://bursadailytradestatistics.blogspot.com/
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post May 8 2013, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ May 7 2013, 08:41 PM)
All the reits are doing well except for IGB? Whats cooking inside?  hmm.gif
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I also thought the same.
But my opinion no news didnt meanz bad news.
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post May 8 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ May 8 2013, 10:16 AM)
Election is over. Shouldn't the investors sell REIT and buy the high risk stocks instead  hmm.gif
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i belive some investor juz a Harcore REITS. biggrin.gif
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post May 10 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(CheesePie @ May 10 2013, 10:41 AM)
Funnily enough, I was told by my broker that her company's analyst said "it just falls". No specific reason given.
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this is stock can go up and down- hv to see desperate seller or desperate buyer to drive the stock.

For me personally as long less +-5% in reits is conder viable without reason.

movement >-+5% without reason must be Desperate SHARK seller/buyer..

is individual hoding power to hold the stock longer until the Reits hv futher expansion or rental revision. Mostly reits holder for the dividend.

my 2sen -

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post May 10 2013, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(CheesePie @ May 10 2013, 11:12 AM)
Personally for me as long the price doesn't go too far from my current average price, its all good since I'm just holding it for a long time as any REIT holders.

But I am a bit of surprise that the prices of other REITS are still high. Was expecting them to fall like IGBREIT.
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You are correct as long not far from our current average price is viable tocollect.
I collected IGBreit recently during the fall. The same i will do to other stock or reits.
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post May 10 2013, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ May 10 2013, 12:29 PM)
Why is the focus on Retail REIT driving the prices so high...
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maybe ppl like retail mall compare office reits, then 100 occupancy and parking full.
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post May 19 2013, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ May 19 2013, 11:54 AM)
I have a question. If we are to compare FD and REITs, shouldn't we stick to REIT since there is a capital appreciation for it and FD has none? Just wondering. blush.gif
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MY opinion, the country enjoying growth then we able see the capital appreciation but when the country moving recession we wont see asset appreciation but fire sale to cover debts & FD is the safest bet.

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ May 19 2013, 12:00 PM)
any idea in which direction we are heading? I only know that our country's debts is getting higher and higher
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KLCI moving bull meanz getting higher index which meanz investor have confident our malaysia listed company to invest.

In other way KLCI move bear meanz getting lower or recession then investor are selling anything they could to get their capital back. FD will be safest bet to park the money.


my statment juz summarise: the obvious event recorded are Asian Financial Crisis 1997 & Financial Tsunami 2008/2009

http://money.cnn.com/data/fear-and-greed/

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post May 19 2013, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ May 19 2013, 12:20 PM)
I only saw the meter pointing to extreme greed laugh.gif
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meanz ppl chasing to invest what every they have, until the time the return not attractive while their fixed income return better, then the opposite reversal happen to safe park the money for wait and see.

It's need support by long Big giant company didnt face any difficulty and still standing strong you wont see economic crisis. Until one big giant tumble down with huge debt and massive employee layoff you will see the effect of economic downturn.

Juz to relate to your question invest in Reits better than FD.

try to google youtube for "debt is money".
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ May 20 2013, 12:14 PM)
btw, wanna ask now is the right time to invest in reit? planning for axreit,igb and hektar. will buy thru cimb. since interest rate for property now kinda high, don't u think it affect the yield/roi?
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Buying reits for the yield, so depend the market driven to push down yield by the investor chasing high, or higher yield when investor putting aside of this counter.

There is no right time when to buy, the risk is there and also opportunity. market not control by single entity investor but many many investor with deep moneyflies.gif pocket.

let said example IGB reits declare divident semi-annual, when the time come divident come - those Shark hv collected from begining and push up the price to those ikan bilis for those last chase dividend. after ex Date slowly ikan bilis realize move out moneyflies.gif for other dividend counter.

As long market interest on any particular counter, the stock hv the volume to push up or down.

For the interest rate high or not - the debt obligation is manage by Reits manager then the debts payment not from investor pocket.
Will your definition High Interest rate will impact sentimental of reits NAV?

And secondly the rate hike not hike drastically in shorterm, so it still control and futher more since 2011 the BLR rate mantain till today.



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QUOTE(nightzstar @ May 20 2013, 02:29 PM)
is it correct to assume that to choose a good reits, the NAV>Price?or the yield alone is enuf to tell you whether they are perform good or poor?
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those NAV > Price , becoz investor dont feel the property value at premium level.
Secondly buying reits we buying the yield not the NAV, becoz NAV only concern when we selling the property.


NAV is book value accounting tell you how much the property worth, not reflect the DPS giving to customer.
When come to the Yield = DPS/Price. The lower price you buy the higher yield you receive.


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QUOTE(katesamsung @ May 20 2013, 08:27 AM)
IGB Reit is one of reit with low gearing
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katesamsung,

You hv PAVreits? Pavreits hv the lowest gearing in m'sia reits.
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post May 20 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ May 20 2013, 04:49 PM)
may i know what does DPS mean? sorry noob here  blush.gif
thks bro, thks to all of u guys here notworthy.gif
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OOPS.. same is DPU

http://mreit.reitdata.com/
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post May 20 2013, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ May 20 2013, 05:27 PM)
DPU stand for?  blush.gif
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you need to do homework more, later become ikan bakar also dunnow why.

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