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k3nji
post Sep 4 2012, 08:14 PM


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previously,,,lots of pipu are changing their facebook DP to vendetta..but now,,pakatan is making a campaign of reducing the car price..

but,,why not many of my fb friend changing the DP to 'turunkan harga kereta' picta?

pipu dunwan reduce car price meh?

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post Sep 4 2012, 08:14 PM


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post Sep 4 2012, 08:16 PM


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cos they sked conti car will give for free
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:19 PM


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Bcoz they wait after GE13, but a stubborn muka tak malu masih xmau turun lagi....HOW???
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:19 PM


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everyone knows that the spoil child protong iz not happy, and fagbuk iz agenda yahudi, and turunkan harga kereta means saya mau jadi yahudi.
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turun 1 ringgit saja
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:26 PM


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post Sep 4 2012, 08:28 PM


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PTPTn macam mana???
interest dia punya la tinggi...
bukan tak nak bayar tapi intereest tu membebankan..
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:29 PM


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post Sep 4 2012, 08:30 PM


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cause malaysian are very caring

they afraid that the 2nd hand car dealer cannot survive after tax cut

and also they are afraid that negara will bankrap without the car tax
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:31 PM


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QUOTE(k3nji @ Sep 4 2012, 08:14 PM)
previously,,,lots of pipu are changing their facebook DP to vendetta..but now,,pakatan is making a campaign of reducing the car price..

but,,why not many of my fb friend changing the DP to 'turunkan harga kereta' picta?

pipu dunwan reduce car price meh?

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if everyone drives a beemer or flyhigh with gtr, whats the fun in owning one?
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:43 PM


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car price ain't gonna change la
its the tax and excise duty that should be lowered
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:44 PM


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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 4 2012, 08:43 PM)
car price ain't gonna change la
its the tax and excise duty that should be lowered
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This is more precise.
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:47 PM


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harga turun pun tak mau beli .

hanya orang bodoh keep on tukar kereeta

unless u rich la , u wont bother harga turun

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post Sep 4 2012, 08:51 PM


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wa..turun lagi bagus.. can change kereta... no need drive old proton with power window switch always rosak zz.. ytd only changed.. sien
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:52 PM


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yes. I belip. tat y i still drive ptong after 14 years
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:55 PM


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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Sep 4 2012, 08:44 PM)
This is more precise.
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car selling price does include duty and tax already.. so any change in duty n tax will affect car price.. so how is that more precise that car price didnt change? hmm.gif
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:56 PM


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sebab orang PR semua dah ada kereta so x perlu dah kereta murah

orang BN bila lagi nak berkereta, bukan asyik nak tengok

Najib sekeluarga je naik kereta
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:57 PM


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Reduce also won't buy because wasting money.

Pay so much for a rugi thing + heavy maintenance fee. So no thanks.
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:58 PM


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QUOTE(zeist @ Sep 4 2012, 03:57 PM)
Reduce also won't buy because wasting money.

Pay so much for a rugi thing + heavy maintenance fee. So no thanks.
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post Sep 4 2012, 08:58 PM


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got minyak turun one? brows.gif

will add to list. tongue.gif


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post Sep 4 2012, 09:00 PM


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Hoping to buy Preve at 30-40k next year. I confirm undi PR just for this.
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:01 PM


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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 4 2012, 08:55 PM)
car selling price does include duty and tax already.. so any change in duty n tax will affect car price.. so how is that more precise that car price didnt change? hmm.gif
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more precise cuz those tax and duty doesn't go to car manufacturer
car manufacturer only earn what they calculate as profit margin
ppl always misunderstood that car price should be lowered becuz expensive, what they dn't know is that the price they paid is including tax and duty
and that u buy 1 car, the price is actually consist of 2 car, 1 for the car manufacturer and at the same time pay another car's price to gov
most ppl especially uncle auntie dn't know that, they always thought the full price will go to car manufacturer
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:02 PM


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post Sep 4 2012, 09:03 PM


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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 4 2012, 09:00 PM)
Hoping to buy Preve at 30-40k next year.  I confirm undi PR just for this.
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40-42k is the original price for preve with profit
that mean in order to get that price, tax and duty should be fully abolished, not lowered
if u take calculator....40k+75% is 70k...around the price for preve
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:06 PM


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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 4 2012, 09:00 PM)
Hoping to buy Preve at 30-40k next year.  I confirm undi PR just for this.
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Not likely in 5 years. Saying things like make me thing you're just a BNtrooper trying to blow things out of proportion.
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:07 PM


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QUOTE(watdahell @ Sep 4 2012, 08:30 PM)
cause malaysian are very caring

they afraid that the 2nd hand car dealer cannot survive after tax cut

and also they are afraid that negara will bankrap without the car tax
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imagine that you worked as 2nd hand car dealer ..will you say same word?

car price + gov tax = real selling price

but when the car sell to 2nd hand dealer ..dia makan 30k = he really take 30k to buy your car .. if 1 shoot deduct let say 33% of tax ... then his car instant drop until 15k

car tax reduction should be done gradually ..probably 8% per year ...if u willing to wait the car tax reduce until 10% ( it took 8 years) then u tunggu lar ..i dont mind paying extra 8% to enjoice my car 1st and lanc around

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post Sep 4 2012, 09:08 PM


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but when u remove the tax and duty, it will be a huge loss for those who have purchased their car.. i mean, 33% of the selling price of a car is the govt tax.. take that away, n u lose 33% of the cars 2nd ahnd value...
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:09 PM


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Don't think if PR is in charge, they will drop the car price. If can sudah lama Bijan kasi turun
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:10 PM


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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 4 2012, 09:01 PM)
more precise cuz those tax and duty doesn't go to car manufacturer
car manufacturer only earn what they calculate as profit margin
ppl always misunderstood that car price should be lowered becuz expensive, what they dn't know is that the price they paid is including tax and duty
and that u buy 1 car, the price is actually consist of 2 car, 1 for the car manufacturer and at the same time pay another car's price to gov
most ppl especially uncle auntie dn't know that, they always thought the full price will go to car manufacturer
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unless the price list got break down how much exact AP, duty, tax, paid for their vehicle, they only gonna know what is shown in the price list lor.. they will wonder why the rubber mat and some emergency kit and some nonsense costing them 5-7k in optional accessories and not able to remove those.. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:12 PM


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QUOTE(BHQ91 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:08 PM)
but when u remove the tax and duty, it will be a huge loss for those who have purchased their car.. i mean, 33% of the selling price of a car is the govt tax.. take that away, n u lose 33% of the cars 2nd ahnd value...
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low end cars maybe 5-10k nia.. your 2nd hand car 20k ,now drop another 5k.. wont die la.. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:13 PM


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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:10 PM)
unless the price list got break down how much exact AP, duty, tax, paid for their vehicle, they only gonna know what is shown in the price list lor.. they will wonder why the rubber mat and some emergency kit and some nonsense costing them 5-7k in optional accessories and not able to remove those..  biggrin.gif
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im not hundred percently sure about this, but one way for u to know how much the AP, duty, tax etc for a particular car, is by comparing the price of the car in peninsular malaysia and langkawi..
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its not yet my time to buy my own car. so right now, i dun care.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:12 PM)
low end cars maybe 5-10k nia.. your 2nd hand car 20k ,now drop another 5k.. wont die la.. biggrin.gif
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brand new car drop 33% ..2nd hand car will ONLY drop 33% also? sweat.gif
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:14 PM


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QUOTE(BHQ91 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:13 PM)
im not hundred percently sure about this, but one way for u to know how much the AP, duty, tax etc for a particular car, is by comparing the price of the car in peninsular malaysia and langkawi..
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well, then you can also observe from the hybrid tax free situation, the drop in price aint the same as langkawi price also.. still higher..
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:15 PM


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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:14 PM)
brand new car drop 33% ..2nd hand car will ONLY drop 33% also?  sweat.gif
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2nd hand car already drop 40% cos used, then another 33% (of that used price) mah.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:14 PM)
well, then you can also observe from the hybrid tax free situation, the drop in price aint the same as langkawi price also.. still higher..
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That's because of excise duty.
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QUOTE(spikeman @ Sep 4 2012, 08:58 PM)
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nope.since everyone would be able to buy a car, so fuel subsidy will be abolished laugh.gif
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:18 PM


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niama increase car price la for the sake of fking jam

if one <insert race> family got 5 sons.

means 5 proton saga already.

u think kl still no enough jam ar
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Malaysian mentality: everything need gov spoonfed after got scholarship become uk citizen

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:12 PM)
low end cars maybe 5-10k nia.. your 2nd hand car 20k ,now drop another 5k.. wont die la.. biggrin.gif
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true, but that can only be applied for old cars.. lets say someone just bought the new honda civic today, rm120k.. and then next year tax reduce or abolish.. ur cars value will go below 60k.. that means 50% of the cars value loss already.. many people who just bought their can will be very upset
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 4 2012, 09:16 PM)
That's because of excise duty.
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Previously, it was 100% import duty exemption and 50% excise duty exemption, Budget 2011 made it 100% exemption for BOTH import duty and excise duty. The deal, for hybrid cars with 2.0 litre engines and below, was supposed to expire on Dec 31, 2011

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Sep 4 2012, 09:18 PM)
niama increase car price la for the sake of fking jam

if one <insert race> family got 5 sons.

means 5 proton saga already.

u think kl still no enough jam ar
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NO, reduce car price.. that way u make proton suufer abit, in which, hopefully, will make them improve.. in order to prevent road congestion, increase petrol price.. only drive when u really really need to..
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why are we debating this over and over again????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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QUOTE(BHQ91 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:19 PM)
true, but that can only be applied for old cars.. lets say someone just bought the new honda civic today, rm120k.. and then next year tax reduce or abolish.. ur cars value will go below 60k.. that means 50% of the cars value loss already.. many people who just bought their can will be very upset
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since they know now, shouldnt they be selling it off.. biggrin.gif acterly i'm also in the mist of selling off 1 or 2 liao.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:10 PM)
unless the price list got break down how much exact AP, duty, tax, paid for their vehicle, they only gonna know what is shown in the price list lor.. they will wonder why the rubber mat and some emergency kit and some nonsense costing them 5-7k in optional accessories and not able to remove those..  biggrin.gif
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if they list, surely those uncle will say ei, this AP i tak mau, boleh cut kah..lol biggrin.gif

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jgn larrr just bought a new car RM150+K .... at least wait for another 5 years then drop kaw kaw sweat.gif

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Sep 4 2012, 09:18 PM)
niama increase car price la for the sake of fking jam

if one <insert race> family got 5 sons.

means 5 proton saga already.

u think kl still no enough jam ar
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pakai condom la u ppl ni..... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(mirzan007 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:21 PM)
jgn larrr just bought a new car RM150+K .... at least wait for another 5 years then drop kaw kaw  sweat.gif
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cx-5?
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QUOTE(mirzan007 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:21 PM)
jgn larrr just bought a new car RM150+K .... at least wait for another 5 years then drop kaw kaw  sweat.gif
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it either is not gonna drop or drop also drop little bit only
u have to remember, this has become one of the gov's main income already
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QUOTE(BHQ91 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:20 PM)
NO, reduce car price.. that way u make proton suufer abit, in which, hopefully, will make them improve.. in order to prevent road congestion, increase petrol price.. only drive when u really really need to..
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Proton actually gonna profit more. This tax doesn't hurt their profit in any abit. Less tax maybe make more people buy preve instead.
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QUOTE(mirzan007 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:21 PM)
jgn larrr just bought a new car RM150+K .... at least wait for another 5 years then drop kaw kaw  sweat.gif
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depends on what car? anyway car that range drop 20-25k the moment u sign the ownership lor.. biggrin.gif
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reduce car tax ..remove petrol subsidy
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it will be a one time painful exercise , but in the long run, malaysians able to spend money on other things or perhaps, even save some money?!


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QUOTE(BHQ91 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:20 PM)
NO, reduce car price.. that way u make proton suufer abit, in which, hopefully, will make them improve.. in order to prevent road congestion, increase petrol price.. only drive when u really really need to..
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Meh sini aku tampar kau sikit.

Reduce excise duty, proton also cheap la.
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QUOTE(BHQ91 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:23 PM)
cx-5?
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there is talk about market liberalization in malaysia and all other asean countries.. some said it will be implemented by 2015.. thats why the govt is urging small companies, like domestic banks in malaysia to come together and form one big giant so it may compete with the global giants once they come into malaysia, by 2015..


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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:25 PM)
depends on what car? anyway car that range drop 20-25k the moment u sign the ownership lor..  biggrin.gif
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this is true .. anyway not going to sell this car. Maybe after 5 years
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:33 PM


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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:26 PM)
reduce car tax ..remove petrol subsidy
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not good idea to cover income losses from excise duty.

Petrol price will affect other essential goods.

To cover from losses in excise duty, increase import tax/excise tax or CBU cars (non-CEPT), cars with 2.4 cc above. So, orang biasa2 boleh beli kereta biasa2 lebih murah. Orang kaya boleh beri kereta luar biasa mahal2.

So government will get more money from orang kaya2.

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 4 2012, 09:33 PM)
not good idea to cover income losses from excise duty.

Petrol price will affect other essential goods.

To cover from losses in excise duty, increase import tax/excise tax or CBU cars (non-CEPT), cars with 2.4 cc above.  So, orang biasa2 boleh beli kereta biasa2 lebih murah. Orang kaya boleh beri kereta luar biasa mahal2.

So government will get more money from orang kaya2.
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Better to directly tax the salary of the ultrarich. I think Malaysia highest tax bracket is for those with a yearly salary of rm100k and above. I think rm100k is kinda low, considering nowadays in KL, people with a salary of rm8k to rm10k a month is just "upper middle class".

And a low increase of petrol price like 10 or 20 cents reduction in subsidy every 5-6 years is semi acceptable.

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 4 2012, 09:33 PM)
not good idea to cover income losses from excise duty.

Petrol price will affect other essential goods.

To cover from losses in excise duty, increase import tax/excise tax or CBU cars (non-CEPT), cars with 2.4 cc above.  So, orang biasa2 boleh beli kereta biasa2 lebih murah. Orang kaya boleh beri kereta luar biasa mahal2.

So government will get more money from orang kaya2.
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nohorom typo la!!! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(BHQ91 @ Sep 4 2012, 09:20 PM)
NO, reduce car price.. that way u make proton suufer abit, in which, hopefully, will make them improve.. in order to prevent road congestion, increase petrol price.. only drive when u really really need to..
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increase petrol good also.

everyone suffer.

drive car become ride motor. rclxms.gif

mat rempit become fixie bike rider.

reduce jam.


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drop in car price = more people can afford cars = more jam on the road = loss of time sitting in jam = anger and frustration
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drop in car price = more people can afford cars = more jam on the road = loss of time sitting in jam = anger and frustration
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Not if you combine it with improved public transport and mild petrol price hikes.
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cos they just bought brand new car. later no resale value
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drop in car price = more people can afford cars = more jam on the road = loss of time sitting in jam = anger and frustration
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not when you have a stricter HP loan policy. And those who bought another car, dont actually drive around both car at the same time. laugh.gif
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Not if you combine it with improved public transport and mild petrol price hikes.
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I've waited for 13 years for public transport to improve, every year is one disappointment after another, even after petrol price hike, people will still drive a car, some will still go on with buying a new car
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I've waited for 13 years for public transport to improve, every year is one disappointment after another, even after petrol price hike, people will still drive a car, some will still go on with buying a new car
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I know, Malaysia is slow on LRT/MRT. But now that its finally progressing, I think hiking it once they are done/almost done is a good move.

And you have Mahathir and Badawi to blame for the slowdown in public transport. Badawi is a known sleepyhead, but what happened to Mahathir final years? Completed 2 line of LRT and then decided to stop?
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They reduce car price then implement tyre tax , door tax , engine tax , pig tax
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They reduce car price then implement tyre tax , door tax , engine tax , pig tax
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Seem legit !
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Seem legit !
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why u come in so late geh?
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why u come in so late geh?
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aiyo bos, just now taking nap ma.
apa macam? harga sulah turun liao or not?
i wan go out buy KFC makan lor
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aiyo bos, just now taking nap ma.
apa macam? harga sulah turun liao or not?
i wan go out buy KFC makan lor
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i tot u working midnite in your dead ppl office.. biggrin.gif
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i tot u working midnite in your dead ppl office..  biggrin.gif
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Ya, just now tersleep on that dead ppl chair. blush.gif
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