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wbk
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Dec 21 2012, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Dec 20 2012, 08:40 PM) OK. A few days ago I posted that I was considering between PM and Hwang. And then I decided that in the long term, PM would win over Hwang. So decided to take Hwang then. After that I researched some more on CIMB and found that it has lower fees. So in the end, yesterday I bought CIMB. The package I bought is the Asia ex-Japan. Reason why I chose this fund is because It invests in companies with significant businesses in Asia. I wanted to diversify away from Malaysia, hence this fund. But the masterfund management fee is 1.8%. So, the management fee could be slightly higher, depending on how much cash is held. I also expect this fund to have higher volatility (hence higher capital gain or loss). i tot the management fees that need to be paid yearly is for the PRS, should not include the masterfund? anyway, i am interested to investment in CIMB PRS Asia ex Japan as well since the masterfund seems to be doing quite well last year. And the sales charge and management fees is much lower. question: how we do qualify for Class C investor?
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wbk
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Dec 21 2012, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Dec 21 2012, 11:04 AM) You can choose whether to invest in Class A or Class C. It's your choice. I chose Class C of course. Here's an explanation about the management fee is charged. I think it's a good explanation. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=56909384eh.. but this article about feeder fund talks elaborate differently. It says we only pay the management fees at the feeder fund, fund manager of the feeder fund will use a portion of the fees collected to pay the management fees of the target fund. a bit confused now. http://www.cimb-principal.com.my/upload/Sh...der%20Funds.pdf Added on December 21, 2012, 11:16 amQUOTE(MGM @ Dec 21 2012, 11:07 AM) Called HwangIM, the Head of Branch suggested to invest in their conservative funds cos market is a bit peak"ish" and to switch when market corrected. Most Asian stockmarkets are at their tops except China. Thinking about doing this as well. This post has been edited by wbk: Dec 21 2012, 11:16 AM
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wbk
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Dec 21 2012, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Dec 21 2012, 12:01 PM) Correct. page 18 first paragraph. "..... Additionally, the management fee is to be charged at only one level in either the target fund or the feeder fund." This means the management fee could either be 1.8% or 1.5%. And since the target fund management fee is higher, we can bet that this will be the management fee charged. Example, Feeder fund holds 10% cash and invests 90% into the Target Fund. The 10% cash will be charged 1.5% management fee. While the Target Fund will charge the Feeder Fund 1.8% fee, so this means the 90% that is invested into the target fund will attract a 1.8% fee. Total fee = (10% x 1.5%) + (90% x 1.8%) = 0.15% + 1.62% = 1.77% I am waiting for the CIMB agent to clarify before i give my money to her.
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wbk
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Dec 21 2012, 04:01 PM
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Confirmed. The management fees is 1.4% per annum for the CIMB PRS Asia Pac ex Japan. And the sales charge is 1.5% (promotion rate) instead of 3%. "For limited time only".
Even though the the management fee difference may be 0.3%. But if you invest alot, the amount is significant in the long run. And we can't withdraw until 60 years old...
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